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    Morality – is a set of customs to society that regulate relationship and prescribe modes of behavior to enhance group survival. A rule of moral conduct. This is the essence that separated herd of fauna into human.
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    Human society started a nomadic lives and later evolved into tribes of hunter-gatherers where instinct of morality needed to govern a crude civilization. Physical strength dominated the struggled for dominancy and the needs of mechanism to perpetuate leadership was the main concerned of the dominant male.
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    On one thunder storm season, lightning struck that started fire intrigued dominant male of power that can not be explained on thus period. Based of lightning incident, herd instinct has conceived a projected power to provide basis in the implementation of morality. Should laws of morality be observe and followed, a giver was required in order to be authenticated for universal adherence
    and acceptance. God was created by mankind through their image on thus stages based on myth, dreams and visions as Projected Giver of Morality Laws. Rules in formed of cult-dogma were designed fitted with anathema and rigorous physical implementation of the dominant leaders. Those were the survival of the fittest … and only individuals adhered to the rules of God were fitted to live and to join the new human society.
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    Rules… evolved into beliefs those were the basis of traditional faith that provide sustainable potent authority for the God-given Morality Laws.
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    Beliefs that were reasonable and rational on thus particular period based on knowledge they possessed, whether or not true or probable does not matter, for it was written. Some quarters attempted to joined and designed dogmas but separated by their individual interests. Dogmatic competitions started to provoke on new human society and superstition was born to give way on blurred and rejected dogmas.
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    Competition for foods on hunter-gathers era evolved into dogmatic struggled and dominations. Kingdoms were established through exploitation of dominance, using gods and goddesses to provide projected powers. Those were the scuffled of god and goddesses to dominate humanity… until the time of Abraham where mankind attempted to unified god. Latter generations tried to incorporate all cult-dogmas and bind mankind into religion, but same anathema was attached to it.
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    So the basic of MORALITY is ... "DO UNTO TO OTHERS, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE OTHERS, TO DO UNTO TO YOU"
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    bro wats meant by nomadic lives
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Jameel Bismilla
    Morality – is a set of customs to society that regulate relationship and prescribe modes of behavior to enhance group survival.

    So the basic of MORALITY is ... "DO UNTO TO OTHERS, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE OTHERS, TO DO UNTO TO YOU"

    Yes Yes Yes.

    Thank you for describing Athiests!
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    Yes Yes Yes.

    Thank you for describing Athiests!
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    Morality and Atheists ?? Very strange.That morality which atheist society has spread in the form of "millions of single mothers".That morality which has made the females as an earning tool in the "Porn industery" ? Which morality you are talking about?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by asadxyz View Post
    Morality and Atheists ?? Very strange.That morality which atheist society has spread in the form of "millions of single mothers".That morality which has made the females as an earning tool in the "Porn industery" ? Which morality you are talking about?
    evidence?

    I would say it is the morality of religions that fear or refuse prophylactics that lead to teenage pregnancies."which i assume you were referring to and not single mothers." As for the porn industry. There is nothing immoral about porn. It is this puritanical fear of sex that i deem immoral as well as the unethical treatment torward women caused by it.
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    http://www.adherents.com/adh_faq.html#God
    Between 87.6 to 92.2% of the world's population professes belief in God, deities or similarly understood Higher Power.
    Interesting to realize that less than 13% of the world population is responsible for all the out of wedlock children and the entire porn industry.
    Or maybe they get some help? Must be the agnostics.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by ranma1/2 View Post
    evidence?

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    Single Parent Households

    In 1998, 26% of all families with children were headed by single parents.
    Press Release cb98-228.html, U.S.Census Bureau, www.census.gov, April 29, 1999.


    In 1998, an estimated 42% of all custodial parents had never married, 38% had divorced, only 5% were widowed, and about 15% were separated.
    “Census Bureau Facts for Features,” U.S. Census Bureau, www.census.gov, April 29, 1999.
    Single Mother Households

    In 1998, 7.7 million (78%) of single mothers maintained their own household. Most of these mothers (69%) had no other adult in the home to help them out.
    Press Release cb00-ff.06, U.S. Census Bureau, www.census.gov, May 3, 2000.
    Single Father Households
    In 1998, 85% of custodial single fathers maintained their own household. Over half (55%) of these fathers had at least one other adult in their home to help them out.
    Press Release cb99-03, U.S. Census Bureau, www.census.gov, June 6, 2000.


    Of single fathers raising their own children in 1998, 11% cared for 3 or more children.
    “Two Parent Versus Single Father Families,” U.S. Census Bureau Public Information Office, June 6, 2000.
    Single Grandparent Households

    In 1997, 340,000 grandmothers were raising their grandchildren without a grandfather or the children’s parents present.
    Press Release cb00-ff.03, U.S. Census Bureau, www.census.gov, February 23, 2000.
    Income/Poverty

    In 1998, the median income for single mother households was $18,000; for single father households the income was $30,000. (The median income for married couple families with children was $57,000.) Note: this does not include non-custodial single parents or those that are not householders.
    “Historical Income Tables- Families,” Bureau of the Census, www.census.gov, Last revised October 4, 1999.
    Child Support

    One third of custodial mothers and one third of custodial fathers do not have a child support order because they did not pursue child support or they could not locate the absent parent.
    Current Population Reports, U.S. Census Bureau, www.census.gov, (P23-189), June 2000.


    In 1996, eight million (58%) of all custodial parents had child support awards—61% for mothers and 40% for fathers.
    Current Population Reports, U.S. Census Bureau, www.census.gov, March 2000.
    Welfare

    By May 1999, between 61% and 87% of adults leaving public assistance had gotten jobs. Most still earn below the poverty level and are often without benefits. Between 19% and 30% of those who leave welfare find it necessary to return to the rolls.
    “Most Find Jobs After Leaving Welfare,” by Judith Havemann, Washington Post, May 27.
    Divorce

    Only 11% of the adult population are currently divorced. Of all adults, 25% have experienced at least one divorce. Christians divorce at a higher rate (27%) than non-Christians (24%).
    “Christians Are Most Likely to Experience Divorce Than Are Non-Christians,” The Barna Research Group, Ltd., December 21, 1999.
    Unwed Pregnancy

    In 1999, 41% of all first births were born to premarital parents. Of females ages 15 to 29, 53% of first children were conceived out of wedlock.
    Press Release (cb99-213), U.S. Census Bureau’s Public Information Office, December 20, 1999.
    Fatherless Children

    An estimated 25 million (40%) of children are growing up without fathers in the home.
    “American Agenda,” World news Tonight with Peter Jennings, December 13, 1994.


    About 13 million (50%) of children without fathers in the home have never even been in their father’s home.
    “American Agenda,” World news Tonight with Peter Jennings, December 13, 1994.
    Associated Risks

    Boys living in a fatherless home are two to three times more likely to be involved in crime, drop out of school, and get divorced. Girls living in a fatherless home are two to three times more likely to become prenant teenagers and have their marriages end in divorce.
    “Heading Toward a Fatherless Society,” by Barry Kliff, MSNBC News, www.msnbc.com, March 31, 1999.
    Church Involvement

    Only 5% of single parent family population attend church regularly.
    The Hidden Mission Field, by Theresa McKenna, Winepress Publishing, 1999
    Taken from Crown Financial Ministries by Larry Burket

    source: http://singles.ag.org/index.php?opti...&Ite mid=2226
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    format_quote Originally Posted by asadxyz View Post
    Morality and Atheists ?? Very strange.That morality which atheist society has spread in the form of "millions of single mothers".
    The is nothing immoral about being a single mother. There is a great deal immoral about being a husband who beats his wife and/or children... of course, everyone who does that must be an atheist too, hmmm.. ?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble View Post
    The is nothing immoral about being a single mother. There is a great deal immoral about being a husband who beats his wife and/or children... of course, everyone who does that must be an atheist too, hmmm.. ?
    Who has made her single mother??
    Atheist men who enjoy these women for a while and throw them away without any responsibility.What a brutality ? And you say "nothing immoral".
    What sort of mentality it is ??
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    format_quote Originally Posted by asadxyz View Post
    Who has made her single mother??
    Atheist men who enjoy these women for a while and throw them away without any responsibility.What a brutality ? And you say "nothing immoral".
    What sort of mentality it is ??
    da. So Atheist = Fornicator. Interesting.
    And only Atheist Fornicat?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    da. So Atheist = Fornicator. Interesting.
    And only Atheist Fornicat?
    Statistics are speaking
    A while ago one atheist has said ,"Porn is not immoral".
    What sort of proof do you want ?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by asadxyz View Post
    Statistics are speaking
    Your stats say nothing about religion.
    You just can't accept that people who think differently than you have morals.
    I guess that says more about you than them.
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    Theists are so hung up on sex.

    Killing for god. Ho hum, who cares?
    Fornication is the greatest evil in the world.

    Kill people for there sexual actions with another consenting adult.
    But don’t say any thing bad about another Muslim, no matter how many people he kills.

    I’m sorry I just don’t understand. Over a year on this forum and two on another, I just can’t get my head around so much hatred against people who have done you no harm.

    Some must think sex is the only factor in morality.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    Theists are so hung up on sex.

    Killing for god. Ho hum, who cares?
    Fornication is the greatest evil in the world.

    Kill people for there sexual actions with another consenting adult.
    But don’t say any thing bad about another Muslim, no matter how many people he kills.

    I’m sorry I just don’t understand. Over a year on this forum and two on another, I just can’t get my head around so much hatred against people who have done you no harm.

    Some must think sex is the only factor in morality.
    Women are being exploited sexually to earn money (atheist code).But it is not the only issue.
    Atheists are playing with life of the people by Promoting Sexual anarchy ----------> AIDS
    Atheists are playing with the life of the people by Promoting Alcohol -----> Life long morbidity
    Is this not true?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by asadxyz View Post
    Women are being exploited sexually to earn money (atheist code).But it is not the only issue.
    Atheists are playing with life of the people by Promoting Sexual anarchy ----------> AIDS
    Atheists are playing with the life of the people by Promoting Alcohol -----> Life long morbidity
    Is this not true?
    Now atheists are promoting alcohol.

    Man you do need a life.

    Who is feeding you all this SH*T?
    Are you over 12?

    Is this not true?
    Not harely restricted to atheists. Atheists are like every one else, there are some good ones and some bad ones.

    Just like there are some good Jews and some bad Jews. There are good Muslims and bad Muslims.
    Of course all Agnosics are good.

    This is insain. I have to go home. :confused:
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    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    Now atheists are promoting alcohol.

    Man you do need a life.

    Who is feeding you all this SH*T?
    Are you over 12?


    Not harely restricted to atheists. Atheists are like every one else, there are some good ones and some bad ones.
    These things can be promoted by only that group who has no "moral values".I do not think any religion can promotes such non sense .
    Atheists are the one who have no moral Code.
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    Single-Parent Statistics

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    Single Parent Households

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    Only 11% of the adult population are currently divorced. Of all adults, 25% have experienced at least one divorce. Christians divorce at a higher rate (27%) than non-Christians (24%).
    Christians Are Most Likely to Experience Divorce Than Are Non-Christians,” The Barna Research Group, Ltd., December 21, 1999.
    Unwed Pregnancy

    In 1999, 41% of all first births were born to premarital parents. Of females ages 15 to 29, 53% of first children were conceived out of wedlock.
    ..........

    Only 5% of single parent family population attend church regularly....

    source: http://singles.ag.org/index.php?opti...&Ite mid=2226
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    format_quote Originally Posted by asadxyz View Post
    Who has made her single mother??
    Atheist men who enjoy these women for a while and throw them away without any responsibility.What a brutality ? And you say "nothing immoral".
    What sort of mentality it is ??
    judging from the evidence provided its the religous fathers that do that.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by asadxyz View Post
    These things can be promoted by only that group who has no "moral values".I do not think any religion can promotes such non sense .
    Atheists are the one who have no moral Code.
    wrong. atheists are just as capable as anyone else in having a moral code.
    morality does not come from religion anymore than it comes from nintendo.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by ranma1/2 View Post
    wrong. atheists are just as capable as anyone else in having a moral code.
    morality does not come from religion anymore than it comes from nintendo.
    Who has said this ?
    There is nothing immoral about porn
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