Why so stress out?

format_quote Originally Posted by I_notGenerous

Atheist is obviously not a religion. Whats is the issue? Another depression which is no good for mental health and well being.

Relax oh! Dear Believer...people of the book!

Huh? Yes atheism is not a religion. Im not sure i understand your next part though.

Atheism only comments on the exitense of a god. It does not relate to mental health in any degree. However some may gain some sort of benefit from a belief or lack of belief in some sort of god.

format_quote Originally Posted by ranma1/2

Huh? Yes atheism is not a religion. Im not sure i understand your next part though.

Atheism only comments on the exitense of a god. It does not relate to mental health in any degree. However some may gain some sort of benefit from a belief or lack of belief in some sort of god.

Hii... sorry, I mean do not think too much about this issue..it could lead to stress, of course it does not related to mental health in any degree...but..hm hm...you, and I know...our cognitive functioning...hm hm....

format_quote Originally Posted by Md Mashud

Atheism is a religion in terms of faith. The god is natural selection.

Atheism is not a religion. It is a man made law and conduct it as a norm.
A man made law is not permanent, it can change to from time to time to suit the environment, conditions and situations.

If I have faith in someone does not mean I worship that person. In simple term I respect his integrity. Thank you. :sunny:

format_quote Originally Posted by I_notGenerous

Atheism is not a religion. It is a man made law and conduct it as a norm.
A man made law is not permanent, it can change to from time to time to suit the environment, conditions and situations.

If I have faith in someone does not mean I worship that person. In simple term I respect his integrity. Thank you. :sunny:

atheism has no laws.
it just is a non belief in a god.

of course anythign social is man made and subject to change

format_quote Originally Posted by ranma1/2

atheism has no laws.
it just is a non belief in a god.

of course anythign social is man made and subject to change

Atheism...(ism) each ism has its own doctrines and principles. But it is a man made law or doctrines or principles.

Why? no evidence? Islam is a constructive religion with complete evidence..its just the cognitive functioning and the way we think is different. Its Allah's knowledge and it depends on us whether to absorp the understanding and make full use of what Allah has given.

format_quote Originally Posted by I_notGenerous

Atheism...(ism) each ism has its own doctrines and principles. But it is a man made law or doctrines or principles.

Why? no evidence? Islam is a constructive religion with complete evidence..its just the cognitive functioning and the way we think is different. Its Allah's knowledge and it depends on us whether to absorp the understanding and make full use of what Allah has given.

nope.

atheism is essentially a lack of belief in god/s.

I am an atheist in all known gods.

You are an atheist in all gods mut allah.

I have no belief in your god or any other.
You have no belief in any other god.

thats about it.

Now i personally dont consider you an atheist but you do have a certain atheistic belief in other gods.

format_quote Originally Posted by ranma1/2

nope.

atheism is essentially a lack of belief in god/s.

I am an atheist in all known gods.

You are an atheist in all gods mut allah.

I have no belief in your god or any other.
You have no belief in any other god.

thats about it.

Now i personally dont consider you an atheist but you do have a certain atheistic belief in other gods.

Hii...Its true I have no belief in others except Allah. But I am not an Atheist. I believe in one God and I submit to HIM. An Atheist does not believe in God at all. See the difference.

format_quote Originally Posted by I_notGenerous

Hii...Its true I have no belief in others except Allah. But I am not an Atheist. I believe in one God and I submit to HIM. An Atheist does not believe in God at all. See the difference.

atheism is just not believeing in a god or gods.
God it self is an atheists but not an agnostic.
He believes in know gods and he knows 1 exists.
"he knows he exists so belief is taken out."

of course this is just symantics.

as i said. I dont realy consider you a full atheists. "but you just got to believe in one less god to be a full one. "

format_quote Originally Posted by ranma1/2

atheism is just not believeing in a god or gods.
God it self is an atheists but not an agnostic.
He believes in know gods and he knows 1 exists.
"he knows he exists so belief is taken out."

of course this is just symantics.

as i said. I dont realy consider you a full atheists. "but you just got to believe in one less god to be a full one. "

Hii Ranma1/2, ..... and hii all...

God is not an atheists nor he is an agnostic...

There is no God save Him, the Alive, the Eternal. Neither slumber nor sleep overtaketh Him. Unto him belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that intercedeth with Him save by His leave? He knoweth that which is in front of them and that which is behind them, while they encompass nothing of His knowledge save what He will. His throne includeth the heavens and the earth, and He is never weary of preserving them. He is the sublime, the tremendous.
Baqara 2:225

format_quote Originally Posted by ranma1/2

atheism is just not believeing in a god or gods.
God it self is an atheists but not an agnostic.
He believes in know gods and he knows 1 exists.
"he knows he exists so belief is taken out."

of course this is just symantics.

as i said. I dont realy consider you a full atheists. "but you just got to believe in one less god to be a full one. "

Athiests = polytheists

An atheist is said to be someone who denies the existence of the Creator. This is a good definition, provided that we mean by it that the creator whose existence they deny is the only God ofreligion, the one true Creator. Otherwise, atheists do believe in creators, albeit they do not recognize them under that appellation. This is so because atheists, in their endeavor to find alternatives to God for explaining the existence of the temporal things we see around us, invent some imaginary entities and give them some of the essential attributes of God.

Thus materialistic atheists used to believe in matter as such a god. But this matter-god of theirs is not the matter with which we are familiar in our daily life; it is something that is eternal and everlasting, hence the statement, which used to masquerade as a scientific fact, “matter is neither created nor destroyed.” But when you ask them to point this eternal and everlasting matter you discover that they are only chasing a will-o’-the-wisp. The matter that we can recognize and to which we can point is matter in the form of the large heavenly bodies, in the form of earthly physical things, and in the form of the constituents of these things: molecules, atoms, subatomic particles, photons, etc., none of which is eternal. Atheistic materialists used to believe in an eternal matter behind all such material things which come and go, but the advent of the “big bang” theory shattered all hopes in the existence of such matter. Scientists now believe that everything—matter, energy, even space and time—had a beginning. In fact they speak about a moment of creation of all these things.

Another such imaginary god is Nature (with a capital N). The nature with which we are familiar is the totality of natural things. But when we are told that Nature does this or that, as atheists are prone to say, we find ourselves at a loss. What is this Nature? If it be the one we know, how can it cause or create itself? But if it is something else, then we want to have proof of its existence.

The same applies to Evolution. Now evolution, scientifically speaking, is “[t]he gradual process by which the present diversity of plant and animal life arose from the earliest and most primary organisms…” (Concise Science Dictionary) But the Evolution of the atheists is not this process; rather it is the agent which brings about the process. Only in this unscientific and imaginary sense can evolution take the place of God; otherwise, a believer who accepts the theory of evolution can easily reconcile it with his belief in God, by saying that that process is itself the work of the Creator.

There are, on the other hand, atheists who say in a misleading way that they believe in God; but on inspection, their god turns out to be the god of the atheists. I am referring here to people like Einstein, who is said by some to have been a believer, but whose god was in fact not God the Creator in whom we all believe. Einstein declared that he believed in “Spinoza’s god,” i.e. in a god that is identical with the universe, and who does not thus interfere from outside in its working. “The man who is thoroughly convinced of the universal operation of the law of causation, “says Einstein, “cannot for a moment entertain the idea of a being who interferes in the course of events.” [Quoted by Hans Kung, Does God Exist? Vantage Books, 1981, p. 629]

Thus all atheists are in fact polytheists, or mushriks. A mushrik, according to Islam, is one who believes in a god or gods besides, or to the exclusion of, the one true God, or who worships such gods, even if he also worships the true God. That perhaps is the reason why the Qur’an never talks about atheists, but only about mushriks (or polytheists).

Peace

Atheism is a negation of an existentialist being, thats it. I merely negate one more god than you do. Its not a matter of faith that you believe Kali, Varuna, Thor, Demiurge, Sheogorath are fictional. Same goes with my disbelief if you're god.

Please stop trying to twist the meaning.

format_quote Originally Posted by Isambard

Atheism is a negation of an existentialist being, thats it. I merely negate one more god than you do. Its not a matter of faith that you believe Kali, Varuna, Thor, Demiurge, Sheogorath are fictional. Same goes with my disbelief if you're god.

Please stop trying to twist the meaning.

First I will tell you something that we know from Quran and Hadith:

1- For every nation on earth God send to us messengers and Prophets, and they are about 124 000 Messanger and Prophet!

2- The Prophets that we know by name and mentioned their stories in Quran and we agree with Christians and Jews except Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) whom they reject are 25 Prophet and Messenger!

From those stories we know what Humans did from History (FACTS) with their faith, they simply added sharers and Pagan believes to the TRUTH that were revealed for them, even Miracles that they saw were not enough for them!

So Kali, Varuna, Thor, Demiurge, Sheogorath were invented by humans after they were send message that there is Creator!

See faith came to us step by step (evolution in faith) for example if you read the bible Prophet Jesus (pbuh) said to his disciples that there is a lot to be said but the comforter when he comes will say it, and told them this because they are NOT READY to BEAR what he will say!

Also we can read some Prophets all what they asked their people to do to worship God and enter paradise is To believe in God and dont kill specific Cow or camel, they didn’t have to go to Mosque or Pray five times or anything like Christians or Jews do, NOTHING, because their Creator knew their capabilities!

Unfortunately and Ironically and Amazingly till today there is people who cannot BEAR and realize TRUTH!

May Allah (swt) open our heart and mind!

Peace