[EMBRYOLOGY] Bones and flesh

**BleroX** · 01-25-2008

Assalamu alykum,
You know for sure the following verse:
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be God, the best to create! (23:14).
I showed some people the verse and they said that in fact muscles develop before (or at the same) the bones.

So what's wrong ?

**جوري** · 05-11-2008

Corpus Luteum= yellow body--lutein derivative of Corpus 'Luteum'= Yellow carotenoid pigments in plants and animal fats and egg yolks

try as you may.. there is no error in Islam!
but you might just dig yourself a deeper hole

cheers

**Whatsthepoint** · 05-11-2008

Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine

your point being?

Well, gender determination is not really about which parent's substance prevails over the other, is it?
If 53:46 says sperm determines the gender, Muhammad could have said the same in the hadith..

**جوري** · 05-11-2008

You are into splitting hair?.. I suppose that is one does when he is confounded?.... there were no microscopes then to determine Corpus Luteum or sperm.
Gender determination a result of sperm donating its X or Y, mentioned in the Quran and hadith. All fetuses are female at first until 9 to 12 weeks, when transforming into a male becomes more apparent...

cheers

**Muezzin** · 05-11-2008

Okay, seriously, enough off-topic female ejaculation talk.

**Whatsthepoint** · 05-11-2008

Eh, just close the deamn thing. It serves no purpose anymore, apart from Trumble's debate with imam, which I don't think will continue.
the original question was answered a while ago.

**Trumble** · 05-11-2008

Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint

Eh, just close the deamn thing. It serves no purpose anymore, apart from Trumble's debate with imam, which I don't think will continue.
the original question was answered a while ago.

We were just going round in circles on every point but one. In that instance he was quite right in stating that, not knowing Arabic, I was in no real position to press the point so, for sake of argument, I conceded it rather than continue to argue 'second hand'.