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Does the Christian Bible ever portray the disciples worshipping Jesus?

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    Does the Christian Bible ever portray the disciples worshipping Jesus? (OP)


    format_quote Originally Posted by Imam View Post
    The term Lord ,as you know better than me ,could be used either as a title of respect or to worship


    John 13:4 He rises from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself. 5 After that he poured water into a basin, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded. 6 Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter said unto him, Lord,(respect) dost thou wash my feet?


    Lord(God) Jesus Christ, have mercy on me, a sinner.


    But it is not our issue ,our issue is that ,what violates the Quranic principles regarding monotheism?

    The [Qur'anic] verse says:
    9:31 They take their rabbis, priests and monks or ascetics to be their Lords* besides Allah. And they take as their Lord, the Messiah son of Mary.

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    They call their rabbis, priests and monks or ascetics Lords.


    Call Jesus ,Lord ,if you wish ,day and night ,never never take him as Lord besides God ....
    So, how should we interepret Thomas' response on his first encounter with Jesus following his resurrection:
    John 20
    24Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!"
    But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it."
    26A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 27Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."

    28Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

    29Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

    30Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31But these are written that you may[a] believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
    Is Thomas simply using a title of respect or is Thomas offering worship?

    What is the reason that Thomas calls Jesus God?

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    Re: Does the Christian Bible ever portray the disciples worshipping Jesus?

    The point is that no one attempted to worship Jesus until after his crucifixion, surely?
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    Re: Does the Christian Bible ever portray the disciples worshipping Jesus?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Andromeda View Post
    The point is that no one attempted to worship Jesus until after his crucifixion, surely?
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    Does the Christian Bible ever portray the disciples worshipping Jesus?

    Do you think the pious don't sin?

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    Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
    Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
    Took ownership of it and don't justify it
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    Re: Does the Christian Bible ever portray the disciples worshipping Jesus?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Andromeda View Post
    The point is that no one attempted to worship Jesus until after his crucifixion, surely?

    That depends on whether you accept the Biblical accounts of the Magi who travelled to Bethlehem and, at least according to Matthew, worshipped Jesus as an infant/toddler.

    Also Matthew 14 tells of a time during Jesus earthly ministry when he was worshipped:
    Matthew 14

    22Immediately Jesus made the disciples get into the boat and go on ahead of him to the other side, while he dismissed the crowd. 23After he had dismissed them, he went up on a mountainside by himself to pray. When evening came, he was there alone, 24but the boat was already a considerable distance[a] from land, buffeted by the waves because the wind was against it.
    25During the fourth watch of the night Jesus went out to them, walking on the lake. 26When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. "It's a ghost," they said, and cried out in fear.

    27But Jesus immediately said to them: "Take courage! It is I. Don't be afraid."

    28"Lord, if it's you," Peter replied, "tell me to come to you on the water."

    29"Come," he said.

    Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus. 30But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, "Lord, save me!"

    31Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. "You of little faith," he said, "why did you doubt?"

    32And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down. 33Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God."

    34When they had crossed over, they landed at Gennesaret. 35And when the men of that place recognized Jesus, they sent word to all the surrounding country. People brought all their sick to him 36and begged him to let the sick just touch the edge of his cloak, and all who touched him were healed.
    And John 9 includes another story in which it is reported that a man Jesus healed of blindness worships Jesus:
    John 9

    1As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
    3"Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. 4As long as it is day, we must do the work of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. 5While I am in the world, I am the light of the world."

    6Having said this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man's eyes. 7"Go," he told him, "wash in the Pool of Siloam" (this word means Sent). So the man went and washed, and came home seeing.

    8His neighbors and those who had formerly seen him begging asked, "Isn't this the same man who used to sit and beg?" 9Some claimed that he was.
    Others said, "No, he only looks like him."
    But he himself insisted, "I am the man."

    10"How then were your eyes opened?" they demanded.

    11He replied, "The man they call Jesus made some mud and put it on my eyes. He told me to go to Siloam and wash. So I went and washed, and then I could see."

    12"Where is this man?" they asked him.
    "I don't know," he said.

    13They brought to the Pharisees the man who had been blind. 14Now the day on which Jesus had made the mud and opened the man's eyes was a Sabbath. 15Therefore the Pharisees also asked him how he had received his sight. "He put mud on my eyes," the man replied, "and I washed, and now I see."
    16Some of the Pharisees said, "This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath."
    But others asked, "How can a sinner do such miraculous signs?" So they were divided.

    17Finally they turned again to the blind man, "What have you to say about him? It was your eyes he opened."
    The man replied, "He is a prophet."

    18The Jews still did not believe that he had been blind and had received his sight until they sent for the man's parents. 19"Is this your son?" they asked. "Is this the one you say was born blind? How is it that now he can see?"

    20"We know he is our son," the parents answered, "and we know he was born blind. 21But how he can see now, or who opened his eyes, we don't know. Ask him. He is of age; he will speak for himself." 22His parents said this because they were afraid of the Jews, for already the Jews had decided that anyone who acknowledged that Jesus was the Christ would be put out of the synagogue. 23That was why his parents said, "He is of age; ask him."

    24A second time they summoned the man who had been blind. "Give glory to God," they said. "We know this man is a sinner."

    25He replied, "Whether he is a sinner or not, I don't know. One thing I do know. I was blind but now I see!"

    26Then they asked him, "What did he do to you? How did he open your eyes?"

    27He answered, "I have told you already and you did not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you want to become his disciples, too?"

    28Then they hurled insults at him and said, "You are this fellow's disciple! We are disciples of Moses! 29We know that God spoke to Moses, but as for this fellow, we don't even know where he comes from."

    30The man answered, "Now that is remarkable! You don't know where he comes from, yet he opened my eyes. 31We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly man who does his will. 32Nobody has ever heard of opening the eyes of a man born blind. 33If this man were not from God, he could do nothing."

    34To this they replied, "You were steeped in sin at birth; how dare you lecture us!" And they threw him out.

    35Jesus heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?"
    36"Who is he, sir?" the man asked. "Tell me so that I may believe in him."

    37Jesus said, "You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you."

    38Then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he worshiped him.
    39Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind."

    40Some Pharisees who were with him heard him say this and asked, "What? Are we blind too?"

    41Jesus said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.
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