An Amazing Proof for the Existence of God

format_quote Originally Posted by Pygoscelis

It never ceases to amaze me how many believers when I tell them I don't believe in God, ask me "THen what created the universe", as if my not knowing proves God-did-it. Why can't these people simply admit the honest truth as I do. They don't know. Its like they need an answer, regardless of whether its true or false.

You really need to change that Tag to Agnostic dude.:thankyou:

format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado

He said he doesn't believe in a god.
If you don't know if a god exists or not, then obviously you can't believe either way. That means, you both don't believe in a god and you don't believe in no gods. I'm also an athiest for that reason, atheist because I'm agnostic.
Not sure if that made sense though.

All the best.

Mkay. I would argue that if you know that theres no god by some amazing discovery, lets say the secret of the universe is suddenly discovered by you...then Gratz! Your the worlds first Atheist.
Otherwise there are simply agnostics , (and agnostics who think they know called atheists and theists)!

If atheist meant knowing there's no god. I guess it depends how you define atheism. If you are agnostic, you obviously aren't believing either way. That can make you an atheist if atheism is just not believing.
It should be
Athiest - believe there are no gods
_______- don't believe either way (<------ I'd be here)
Agnostic - who isn't agnostic, of course there's no evidence either way

belief in no gods =/= don't believe in a god

This terminology is a waste of time hah, can't believe i started it.
It should simply be: religous or not religious

format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado

If atheist meant knowing there's no god. I guess it depends how you define atheism. If you are agnostic, you obviously aren't believing either way. That can make you an atheist if atheism is just not believing.
It should be
Athiest - believe there are no gods
_______- don't believe either way (<------ I'd be here)
Agnostic - who isn't agnostic, of course there's no evidence either way

belief in no gods =/= don't believe in a god

This terminology is a waste of time hah, can't believe i started it.
It should simply be: religous or not religious

I will have to have a word with Richard Dawkins about it to make a ruling on it. I'm seeing him tommorow down the chippy.

I'm an agnostic that dosnt beleive in any of the current or past Gods but dosnt discount the possibility that there is a God that started creation. It is evidently either unaware of us now /dead/on holiday or lost its powers.

format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado

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Or maybe a god that just doesn't care? Maybe we're all part of an experiment If there was a god, it'd be pretty bored after living an eternity or so. I'll call myself an agnostic atheist !

Or Malevonent?

I really liked the scene at the end of Men In Black 1, where the scene pans out into space through the universe and eventually comes out showing the universe as a marble in a bag of marbles in a game played by two impossibly huge creatures. I know its nuts but I liked it.

format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado

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Or maybe a god that just doesn't care? Maybe we're all part of an experiment If there was a god, it'd be pretty bored after living an eternity or so. I'll call myself an agnostic atheist !

Noone can imagine the gifts of paradise.

You desire for "oblivion" is interesting.

There is no experiment good friend, at your current place in life, you just have to struggle a bit more than others to find God.

But the silver lining is that no soul is burdened beyond what it can bear. Perhaps you will find your inner spirituality and conquer your doubts and become a better believer than me. God cares, but you have admitted that you don't.

format_quote Originally Posted by barney

I will have to have a word with Richard Dawkins about it to make a ruling on it. I'm seeing him tommorow down the chippy.

I'm an agnostic that dosnt beleive in any of the current or past Gods but dosnt discount the possibility that there is a God that started creation. It is evidently either unaware of us now /dead/on holiday or lost its powers.

Reading your posts over the last few months, I vaguely remember you mentioning that you had fought in a war of some sort. Is it fair to say that this is what makes you question God? The existence of the horrors of war?

Your posts have often come across and humorously cynical. Sometimes you were impressed with Islam as in the case of the "google earth" miracle thread.

Your road might be harder than others but as I told tornado, no soul is burdened beyond what it can bear. Just step up to the plate and find the truth instead of dismissing it in comedic ways.

You both have hundreds of posts in an Islamic website. Could you ever tell God that he did not give you the opportunity to learn about him? To read the Quran and to witness the miracles of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh?

Sure you laugh at the "lack" of evidence behind Moses' crossing of the Red Sea, or poke fun at Isa in the various gospels and their differing accounts. But. You have complete access and knowlege to the Prophet of Islam and the last Prophet to Mankind.

Is it a coincidence that every iota of this religion, right down to the very words of the Prophet is available oto you to read? And an unchanged book that noone could challenge in 1400 years?


Evil has been done in the name of every single ideology in existence. But could anyone ever claim to have done as much good and ispired so many lives as the Great Prophets of God? Moses,Jesus, Muhammad? Is it so hard to say that you KNOW there is God?