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    Salam/Peace,

    Can unitarian Christians who reject the trinity and believe in the oneness of God, like Muslims, be considered "Muslim"?
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    Part of being Muslims is also accepting Muhammed (saw) is a Messenger, Seal of the Prophets.
    Not to mention, belief in the five pillars.
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Argamemnon View Post
    Salam/Peace,

    Can unitarian Christians who reject the trinity and believe in the oneness of God, like Muslims, be considered "Muslim"?
    Close, but they don't quite make it.


    Although they have very similar beliefs as we have, they do not accept the Shahadah or the 5 pillars,
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    Close, but they don't quite make it.


    Although they have very similar beliefs as we have, they do not accept the Shahadah or the 5 pillars,
    Yes, but on the other hand, they are the true people of the book; Ahl al Kitab. I also wonder how many Christians are actually unitarian, I suppose not many...
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Argamemnon View Post
    Yes, but on the other hand, they are the true people of the book; Ahl al Kitab. I also wonder how many Christians are actually unitarian, I suppose not many...
    Would be true, if the Bible they use was the unchanged word of Allaah(swt) but that seems unlikely as they do include the New Testement, only interpret it different than other Christians. They also believe Jesus(as) is the way to heaven and do pray to him, but do not consider him to be equal to Allaah(swt)
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    No they only complete one of five pillars, not all and a Muslim should pray five times or Is called a kaffir(non beleiver) even though you are Muslim by name . That same rule apply fir those Christians I suppose.
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    Actually what I find most interesting about Christianity is that the Unitarians and the Trinitarians both use the same Bible, yet both claim radically different beliefs about Jesus (as) and the concept of God.
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Yanal View Post
    and a Muslim should pray five times or Is called a kaffir(non beleiver) even though you are Muslim by name.
    I'm sorry brother, but that's utter nonsense (no offense). You are NOT a kafir if you believe in Allah and his messengers even if you never pray. There are a lot of Muslims who don't pray at all. I would say hundreds of millions. lol!!
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Argamemnon View Post
    I also wonder how many Christians are actually unitarian, I suppose not many...
    According to the United States Census Bureau 629,000 individuals identified themselves as Unitarian/Universalist in 2001

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism
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    Oh I thought that if you don't pray... Ok thanks for correcting me.
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian View Post
    According to the United States Census Bureau 629,000 individuals identified themselves as Unitarian/Universalist in 2001

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism
    Thanks, not many after all..
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Yanal View Post
    Oh I thought that if you don't pray... Ok thanks for correcting me.
    No problem
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by Yanal View Post
    No they only complete one of five pillars, not all and a Muslim should pray five times or Is called a kaffir(non beleiver) even though you are Muslim by name . That same rule apply fir those Christians I suppose.
    Actually, they technically only believe in half of the first pillar.
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    format_quote Originally Posted by rpwelton View Post
    Actually what I find most interesting about Christianity is that the Unitarians and the Trinitarians both use the same Bible, yet both claim radically different beliefs about Jesus (as) and the concept of God.
    I find it interesting that the Ahmadi use the same Qu'ran as Sunni and Shi'a Muslims, yet they have radically different beliefs regarding what it means to be Muslim.
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    how christians define the christians group that is in the right path? Can you please explain. And which is the majority group?

    thanx in advance.
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    I don't have much time, syilla, but I believe the 'Apostle's Creed' may give you a good answer.

    I found this in Wikipedia:
    The Apostles Creed (Symbolum Apostolorum) was developed between the second and ninth centuries. It is the most popular creed used in worship by Western Christians. Its central doctrines are those of the Trinity and God the Creator. Each of the doctrines found in this creed can be traced to statements current in the apostolic period. Since the Apostles Creed is still unaffected by the later Christological divisions, its statement of the articles of Christian faith remain largely acceptable to most Christian denominations:
    * belief in God the Father, Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the Holy Spirit
    * the death, descent into hell, resurrection, and ascension of Christ
    * the holiness of the Church and the communion of saints
    * Christ's second coming, the Day of Judgement and salvation of the faithful.
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    Here is the Creeditself:
    "I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth;

    And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord;

    Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary;

    Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried; He descended into hell;

    The third day he rose again from the dead;

    He ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;

    From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead;

    I believe in the Holy Ghost;

    I believe in the holy catholic church; the communion of saints;

    The forgiveness of sin;

    The resurrection of the body;

    And the life everlasting. Amen."
    Hope that answers your question. Perhaps others can elaborate more.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Argamemnon View Post
    I'm sorry brother, but that's utter nonsense (no offense). You are NOT a kafir if you believe in Allah and his messengers even if you never pray. There are a lot of Muslims who don't pray at all. I would say hundreds of millions. lol!!
    Actually, the Prophet Muhammad [saas] said "the difference between us [the believers] and the disbeliever is Salah [5 daily prayers]. Whoever abandons this prayer, abandons his religion and becomes a disbeliever." -I'm pretty sure it's in the two Sahihs, and I know it is an authentic hadith, as I have heard many scholars use it.

    The meaning of the hadith is, the person who doesn't pray because he doesn't want to, and believes that he doesn't have to [for example, he believes Allah will forgive him, so he doesn't pray even tho he is commanded, or he believes the salah is not a part of islam, or has some other problem in aqeedah] then this person is a disbeliever. -But the Muslim who believes he should pray, and feels bad for not praying, then he is still a believer, even if he doesn't pray.

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    Greetings and peace be with you Argamemnon;

    God has to be greater than the sum of all the religions of the world put together.

    Regardless of what we may believe, and regardless of how we pray, the same God hears all our prayers, we are all created by the same God.

    In the spirit of praying that all people may obtain eternal salvation.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you Argamemnon;

    God has to be greater than the sum of all the religions of the world put together.

    Regardless of what we may believe, and regardless of how we pray, the same God hears all our prayers, we are all created by the same God.

    In the spirit of praying that all people may obtain eternal salvation.

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    Greetings and peace be with you Eric,

    I trust God's mercy. God knows best...
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    Re: Unitarian Christians

    They're not really Christians, I'm not even sure Uu should be considered a religion.
    Besides, they're much to liberal to be considered Muslims.
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