Why is nudity considered worse than violence/curses in movies and games?

**AntiKarateKid** · 03-11-2009

I was wondering this before. I stopped watching movies and shows that had gratuitous sexual references or jokes but then I still play videogames with gore/violence and cursing in it?

It seems like I mind cursing more than I do gore and violence and hate nudity above all but writing this now it seems... backwards?

All are bad I know but for some reason I'm having trouble seeing violence on par with nudity.

So guys what are your views?

**Cabdullahi** · 03-11-2009

brother .....all affect the heart....being exposed to and actively seeking out nudity through books and video's causes greater damage but swearing and violence also causes damage

**Charzhino** · 03-11-2009

Yea, I'm not too sure either. When I was younger, my mum would let me watch movies with intense gore, violence and bad language, but when it came to even a prolonged kiss scene, she would change the channel or tell me to look away. Kind of funny now that I think about it.

**Keltoi** · 03-11-2009

I suppose over time people have become numb to exploding limbs and the f bomb. Nudity is probably the last thing "we" will eventually become numb to. It probably isn't that far off.

**aamirsaab** · 03-11-2009

I think it's because violence and cursing occurs more frequently than nudity. So there is an element of normality and desensitization; the more frequent an act is the more likely it is to be accepted.

Case in point is adultery; it's not uncommon in today's society for both men and women to be flurtatious or promiscuous (ex-girlfriends, ex-boyfriends and such). In fact, some would argue it's a social norm to actually have those!

Yet, things like child molestation are still considered a horrible act (which is a good thing - I certainly do not wish to see the day where child molestation becomes any less of a crime than it is today. In my book, child molesterers should get really harsh punishments ALWAYS...freakin sickos)

I'm not sure which is worse for a human psychologically speaking though, Violence or nudity? I would probably say nudity since it's connected with insecurity (usually a bad thing), whereas violence is connected with domination (usually a good thing).

**Peterwf** · 03-11-2009

Nudity leads to a "consuming passion", it leads to seeking new and more perverse forms of titillation and thereby ever deeper into sin, and more difficult to escape.

Similarly, viewing violent material is also a "consuming passion" and leads to the desire for the next thrill. It can lead to a person becoming angry in their relationships and thence onto violence.

Both are evil, very dangerous and extremely difficult to escape once trapped.
So I have to agree with the OP that it does seem strange that by comparison violence is tolerated.

**aadil77** · 03-11-2009

Originally Posted by AntiKarateKid

I was wondering this before. I stopped watching movies and shows that had gratuitous sexual references or jokes but then I still play videogames with gore/violence and cursing in it?

It seems like I mind cursing more than I do gore and violence and hate nudity above all but writing this now it seems... backwards?

All are bad I know but for some reason I'm having trouble seeing violence on par with nudity.

So guys what are your views?

well one is haraam and the other isn't, yh swearing is a sin but it is nowhere near as bad as the other and does not nearly lead to the amount of haraam the other can cause

**جوري** · 03-11-2009

I don't know if nudity leads to passion.. but that is my point of view as a female I think it dulls the senses and turns people into animals and denies them something very basic and beautiful to which every human is entitled which is their God given dignity. Nudity fosters contempt for women objectifies and depersonalizes them.. I think it is very sad.. and whereas most women who chose to butter their bread this way for one reason or another are viewed in multitudes of ways from sex objects to w hores, I really can't help but feel very sorry for them.. that is someone's mom or sister, or niece or aunt that perverts are gawking at to satisfy instant base desires that are stripped of emotion, compassion or love...

I'd take violence over nudity for reasons above.. at least violence for the most part has good and evil defined and a sense of justice somehow attached to it.

**alcurad** · 03-11-2009

^second
most of us can't get too violent as it were, you can't exactly go around shooting people as happens in video games for example. on the other hand 'nudity' as an umbrella encompassing all that is lewd etc could be acted upon, or has a larger chance of being acted out, this is in my view why it is not acceptable as violence is.
any fantasies-the 'normal' ones atleast- in that realm could/should be easily satisfied by getting married etc, not so for violence/gore, so it's more tolerated as a lesser evil,,

**Trollomore** · 03-11-2009

Not sure I can agree with the above post.
Guns are indeed hard to get hold of, especially in countries that don't have guns in Walmart on sale

However, I'm sure we'll all aware that blunt instruments, blades, anything pokey can do just as much damage albeit you wouldn't be able to kill as many as quicky if you started running around a mall with a knife as you would with a firearm.

I just can't see how violence is a lesser form of barbarity then nudity is.

**Azy** · 03-11-2009

I think the answer to this is simply social conditioning, as aamirsaab said, what people consider social norms. Presumably you all live in societies where everyone keeps covered up and the sexes generally separated.

There are parts of the world where people won't put on a pair of pants their whole life and it has no bearing on their dignity and no sexual connotations, it is simply how they have always lived.

How on earth you can think that beating someone to a bloody pulp is preferable to being nude is beyond me.

**alcurad** · 03-11-2009

Azy, the discussion is concerning games & movies, all it takes is a few clicks-in a game that is-not that I'm for that,,

**miss red** · 03-11-2009

I think that violence in movies got bad effect, but violence in reale life is most effective so if your in violence community u will be as it mostly. If the movies and games are your community meaning you deal so much with thim that's where thy have effect on you. You also choose what to watch and what to play, ok don't laugh

i watch cartoon movies they have almost any violence and some of thim are good, And go to cinema to watch it too.

slam

**Azy** · 03-11-2009

Originally Posted by alcurad

Azy, the discussion is concerning games & movies, all it takes is a few clicks-in a game that is-not that I'm for that,,

I know, what I'm saying is that it's essentially all about your perception of normality whether it's in a game, movie or real life.

It's interesting that for AKK there seems to be no distinction between "gratuitous sexual references" and "nudity".

**miss red** · 03-11-2009

And i think worior movies are positive.

**Grace Seeker** · 03-11-2009

Originally Posted by Gossamer skye

I don't know if nudity leads to passion.. but that is my point of view as a female I think it dulls the senses and turns people into animals and denies them something very basic and beautiful to which every human is entitled which is their God given dignity. Nudity fosters contempt for women objectifies and depersonalizes them..

I agree. And I also suspect that viewing violence has a similar desensitizing effect on people causing us to view others once again as objects of our own wrath rather than to be valued as human beings who, like ourselves, are equally part of God's amazing creation.

And I think language is a tool that can leverage us into being willing to accept violence as normative and reasonable, especially if our language is filled with violent imagery or behaviors. Really who would want someone to actually literally complete the acts that we often say with our most obscene langauge?

**czgibson** · 03-11-2009

Greetings,

Two of the best sentences I've seen today:

Originally Posted by AKK

It seems like I mind cursing more than I do gore and violence and hate nudity above all but writing this now it seems... backwards?

Originally Posted by Azy

There are parts of the world where people won't put on a pair of pants their whole life and it has no bearing on their dignity and no sexual connotations, it is simply how they have always lived.

It's more common by far to see violence in a film than it is to see nudity, and prolonged nudity will get a film a higher certificate than prolonged violence. It's always seemed upside-down to me.

If you're religious: is it better to look at God's creation or to look at the destruction of it?

Peace

**جوري** · 03-11-2009

'Presumably you all live in societies where everyone keeps covered up and the sexes generally separated.'
lol.. when sitting for the United states medical licensing exam specifically the CSA. you can fail the test if you do poorly in one of three components and one of them is patient communication. Yes people have indeed failed for not offering the patient appropriate cover or exposing an area of the body not being examined. I think human diginity is a universal language, except for those who for personal reasons are far removed from it.
Look it up under medical ethics CSA!

**جوري** · 03-11-2009

Originally Posted by Grace Seeker

I agree. And I also suspect that viewing violence has a similar desensitizing effect on people causing us to view others once again as objects of our own wrath rather than to be valued as human beings who, like ourselves, are equally part of God's amazing creation.

And I think language is a tool that can leverage us into being willing to accept violence as normative and reasonable, especially if our language is filled with violent imagery or behaviors. Really who would want someone to actually literally complete the acts that we often say with our most obscene langauge?

It does indeed depend on the content of how violence is used, to me it is a western problem really, I don't see that level of violence in foreign films, or students going postal on their classmates and teachers else where in the world as in the U.S... were it up to me I'd do away with both, but if I had to choose the lesser of two evils it would be nudity..

it is remarkable to me but yesterday I was thinking if I had just one wish for this world, what would it be, and world peace wasn't as pressing or realistic as doing away with pornography!

cheers

**جوري** · 03-11-2009

Originally Posted by czgibson

Greetings
If you're religious: is it better to look at God's creation or to look at the destruction of it?

Peace

You can look and admire God's creation in the private tender moments that he made lawful.. pornography in any form even if swept under artistry is an exploitation of the subject!