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    The true religion.

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    In response to the hell-fire threat in this thread:

    Here is a partial list of religions. Many others have existed in the past and will exist in the future.

    In some only believers are saved, in others good people are saved, in others all people go to some kind of spirit realm, in others the soul is reincarnated, in others the ancestors live among us and can speak to us through the shamens,
    and in some... all are doomed.

    Take your pick. Just remember: the fate of your soul depends on your answer.

    Abrahamic religions
    Main article: Abrahamic religions

    A group of monotheistic traditions sometimes grouped with one another for comparative purposes, because all refer to a patriarch named Abraham.

    [edit] Bábism
    Main article: Bábism

    * Azali

    [edit] Bahá'í Faith
    Main article: Bahá'í Faith

    [edit] Christianity
    Main article: Christianity
    See also: List of Christian denominations

    [edit] Catholicism
    Main article: Catholicism

    Western

    * Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association

    * Independent Catholic Churches
    o Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church
    o Heenum Catholic Church
    o Philippine Independent Church (In communion with the Anglican Church and the Union of Utrecht)
    o Polish National Catholic Church
    o Union of Utrecht (In communion with the Anglican Church)

    * Old Catholicism
    o Liberal Catholic Church

    * Roman Catholicism (Latin Rite)
    o Sui iuris (Including Byzantine Rite churches)
    o Traditionalist Catholicism

    Eastern

    * Eastern Catholicism (Eastern Churches in Communion with Rome)

    * Eastern Orthodoxy
    o Eastern Orthodox Church
    + Bulgarian Orthodox Church
    + Georgian Orthodox Church
    + Greek Orthodox Church
    + Romanian Orthodox Church
    + Russian Orthodox Church
    + Serbian Orthodox Church
    + Ukrainian Orthodox Church


    * Oriental Orthodoxy
    o Armenian Apostolic Church
    o Coptic Orthodox Church
    o Ethiopian Orthodox Church

    * Syriac Christianity
    o Assyrian Church of the East
    o Indian Orthodox Church
    + Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church (In full communion with the Oriental Orthodox Church)
    + Syriac Orthodox Church (In full communion with the Oriental Orthodox Church)
    o Mar Thoma Church (In full communion with the Anglican Church in India)
    o Syriac Catholic Church (In full communion with Rome)

    [edit] Protestantism
    Main article: Protestantism

    * Anglicanism (via media between the Roman Catholic Church and Protestantism)
    o Anglican Communion
    + Church of England
    + Church of Ireland
    + Church of Wales
    + Episcopal Church (United States)
    + Scottish Episcopal Church
    * Pre-Lutheran Protestants
    o Hussites
    o Lollards
    o Waldensians
    * Anabaptists
    o Amish
    o Brethren in Christ
    o Church of the Brethren
    o Hutterites
    o Mennonites
    o Old German Baptist Brethren
    * Baptists
    * Brethren
    * Catholic Apostolic Church
    * Charismatic movement
    * Christadelphians
    * Christian Israelite Church
    * Unification Church
    * Christian Science
    * Dispensationalism
    * Elitism
    * Esoteric Christianity
    * Evangelicalism
    * Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster
    * Lutheranism
    * Methodism
    * Messianic Judaism
    * Most Holy Church of God in Christ Jesus
    * New Thought
    * Pentecostalism
    o Oneness Pentecostalism
    * Pietism
    o Holiness movement
    * Quakerism
    * Reformed churches
    o Puritans
    o Presbyterianism
    o Congregational church
    * Religious Society of Friends
    * Spiritism
    o Espiritismo
    * Swedenborgianism
    o Christian Spiritualism
    * United and uniting churches
    * Unitarianism
    * Universalism

    [edit] Restorationism
    Main article: Restorationism

    * Adventism
    o Millerites
    o Sabbatarianism
    o Seventh-day Adventists
    * Christadelphians
    * Latter Day Saint movement (Mormonism)
    o Church of Christ (Temple Lot)
    o Community of Christ
    o Rigdonites
    o The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
    o The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (a.k.a. LDS)
    + Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (a.k.a. FLDS)
    o The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
    * Iglesia ni Cristo
    * Jehovah's Witnesses
    * Restoration Movement

    [edit] Gnosticism
    Main article: List of Gnostic sects

    Christian Gnosticism

    * Ebionites
    * Cerdonians
    o Marcionism (not entirely Gnostic)
    * Colorbasians
    * Simonians

    Early Gnosticism

    * Borborites
    * Cainites
    * Carpocratians
    * Ophites
    * Hermeticism

    Medieval Gnosticism

    * Cathars
    * Bogomils
    * Paulicianism
    * Tondrakians

    Persian Gnosticism

    * Mandaeanism
    * Manichaeism
    o Bagnolians

    Syrian-Egyptic Gnosticism

    Main article: Syrian-Egyptic Gnosticism

    * Sethians
    o Basilidians
    o Thomasines
    o Valentinians
    + Bardesanites

    [edit] Islam
    See also: Islam and Divisions of Islam

    Kalam Schools

    Main article: Kalam

    * Ash'ari
    * Kalam
    * Maturidi
    * Murji'ah
    * Mu'tazili

    Kharijite

    Main article: Kharijite

    * Ibadi (Only surviving sect)
    * Azraqi
    * Harūriyya
    * Sufri

    Shi'a Islam

    Main article: Shi'a Islam

    * Ismailis
    o Mustaali / Bohra
    * Jafari
    o Twelvers
    o Alawites
    o Alevi / Bektashi
    * Zaiddiyah

    Sufism

    Main article: Sufism

    * Bektashi
    * Chishti
    * Mevlevi
    * Naqshbandi
    * Tariqah
    * Quadiriyyah
    * Suhrawardiyya
    * Tijani
    * Universal Sufism
    o Dances of Universal Peace

    Sunni Islam

    Main article: Sunni Islam

    * Hanafi
    o Berailvi
    o Deobandi
    * Hanbali
    * Maliki
    * Shafi'i

    Groups sometimes considered non-Islamic
    These religious traditions are not recognized as parts of Islam by mainstream Islamic fiqh, but consider themselves to be Muslim.

    * Ahl-e Haqq (Yarsan)
    * Ahmadiyya
    * Druze
    * Nation of Islam
    * Moorish Science Temple of America
    * United Submitters International
    * Zikri

    [edit] Judaism
    See also: Judaism and Jewish Denominations

    Rabbinic Judaism

    Main article: Rabbinic Judaism

    * Conservative Judaism
    o Masorti
    o Conservadox Judaism
    + Union for Traditional Judaism
    * Orthodox Judaism
    o Haredi Judaism
    o Hasidic Judaism
    o Modern Orthodox Judaism
    * Reform Judaism
    * Progressive Judaism
    o Liberal Judaism

    Karaite Judaism

    Main article: Karaite Judaism

    Modern Non-Rabbinic Judaism

    * Alternative Judaism
    * Humanistic Judaism (not always identified as a religion)
    * Jewish Renewal
    * Reconstructionist Judaism

    Historical groups

    * Essenes
    * Pharisees (ancestor of Rabbinic Judaism)
    * Sadducees (possible ancestor of Karaite Judaism)
    * Zealots
    o Sicarii

    Sects that believed Jesus was a prophet

    * Ebionites
    * Elkasites
    * Nazarenes
    * Sabbateans
    o Frankists

    [edit] Rastafari movement
    Main article: Rastafari movement

    [edit] Mandaeans and Sabians
    Main articles: Mandaeism and Sabians

    * Mandaeism
    * Sabians
    o Sabians of Harran
    o Mandaean Nasaraean Sabeans

    [edit] Samaritanism
    Main article: Samaritanism

    [edit] Unitarian Universalism
    Main article: Unitarian Universalism

    [edit] Indian religions
    Main article: Indian religions

    Religions that originated in Greater India and religions and traditions related to, and descended from, them.

    [edit] Ayyavazhi
    Main article: Ayyavazhi

    [edit] Buddhism
    Main article: Schools of Buddhism

    * Nikaya schools (which have historically been called Hinayana in the West)
    o Theravada
    + Sri Lankan Amarapura Nikaya
    + Sri Lankan Siam Nikaya
    + Sri Lankan Ramañña Nikaya
    + Bangladeshi Sangharaj Nikaya
    + Bangladeshi Mahasthabir Nikaya
    + Burmese Thudhamma Nikaya
    # Vipassana tradition of Mahasi Sayadaw and disciples
    + Burmese Shwekyin Nikaya
    + Burmese Dvaya Nikaya
    + Thai Maha Nikaya
    # Dhammakaya Movement
    + Thai Thammayut Nikaya
    # Thai Forest Tradition
    * Tradition of Ajahn Chah
    * Mahayana
    o Humanistic Buddhism
    o Madhyamaka
    + Prāsangika
    + Svatantrika
    + Sanlun (Three Treatise school)
    # Sanron
    + Maha-Madhyamaka (Jonangpa)
    o Nichiren
    + Nichiren Shū
    + Nichiren Shōshū
    + Nipponzan Myōhōji
    + Soka Gakkai
    o Pure Land
    + Jodo Shu
    + Jodo Shinshu
    o Tathagatagarbha
    + Daśabhūmikā (absorbed into Huayan)
    + Huayan (Avataṃsaka)
    # Hwaeom
    # Kegon
    o Tiantai
    + Tendai
    + Cheontae
    o Yogācāra
    + Cittamatra in Tibet
    + Wei-Shi (Consciousness-only school) or Faxiang (Dharma-character school)
    # Beopsang
    # Hossō
    o Chan / Zen / Seon / Thien
    + Caodong
    # Sōtō
    * Keizan line
    * Jakuen line
    * Giin line
    + Linji
    # Rinzai
    # Ōbaku
    # Fuke Zen
    # Won Buddhism: Korean Reformed Buddhism
    + Kwan Um School of Zen
    + Sanbo Kyodan
    * Vajrayana
    o Shingon Buddhism
    o Tibetan Buddhism
    + Bön
    + Gelukpa
    + Kagyupa
    # Dagpo Kagyu
    * Karma Kagyu
    * Barom Kagyu
    * Tsalpa Kagyu
    * Phagdru Kagyu
    * Drikung Kagyu
    * Drukpa Kagyu
    # Shangpa Kagyu
    + Nyingmapa
    + Sakyapa
    # Jonangpa
    * New Buddhist movements
    o Aum Shinrikyo (now known as Aleph)
    o Diamond Way
    o Friends of the Western Buddhist Order
    o New Kadampa Tradition
    o Share International
    o True Buddha School
    o Vipassana movement

    [edit] Hinduism
    See also: Hindu denominations and Contemporary Hindu movements

    * Agama Hindu Dharma
    * Hindu revivalism
    * Lingayatism
    * Hindu reform movements
    o Arya Samaj
    o Brahmo Samaj
    * Shaivism
    * Shaktism
    * Tantrism
    * Smartism
    * Vaishnavism
    o Gaudiya Vaishnavism
    + ISKCON (Hare Krishna)

    Major schools and movements of Hindu philosophy

    Main article: Hindu philosophy

    * Nyaya
    * Purva mimamsa
    * Samkhya
    * Vaisheshika
    * Vedanta (Uttara Mimamsa)
    o Advaita Vedanta
    o Integral Yoga
    o Vishishtadvaita
    o Dvaita Vedanta
    * Yoga
    o Ashtanga Yoga
    o Bhakti Yoga
    o Hatha yoga
    o Siddha Yoga
    o Tantric Yoga

    [edit] Jainism
    Main article: Jainism

    * Digambara
    * Shvetambara

    [edit] Sikhism
    Main article: Sikhism

    * Khalsa
    o Nihang
    * Namdhari or Kuka Sikhs
    * Sahajdhari Sikh
    * Ravidasi

    [edit] Persian religions
    Main article: Iranian religions

    * Manichaeism
    * Mazdakism
    * Yazdânism
    o Alevi
    o Yarsani
    o Yazidi
    * Zoroastrianism
    o Zurvanism

    [edit] East Asian religions
    Main article: East Asian religions

    [edit] Confucianism
    Main article: Confucianism

    * Neo-Confucianism
    * New Confucianism

    [edit] Shinto
    Main articles: Shinto and Shinto sects and schools

    [edit] Taoism
    Main article: Taoism

    [edit] Other

    * Caodaism
    * Chondogyo
    * Chinese folk religion
    * Falun Gong
    * I-Kuan Tao
    * Jeung San Do
    * Legalism
    * Mohism

    [edit] African diasporic religions

    African diasporic religions are a number of related religions that developed in the Americas among African slaves and their descendants in various countries of the Caribbean Islands and Latin America, as well as parts of the southern United States. They derive from African traditional religions, especially of West and Central Africa, showing similarities to the Yoruba religion in particular.
    See also: African diasporic religions

    * Batuque
    * Candomblé
    * Dahomey mythology
    * Haitian mythology
    * Kumina
    * Macumba
    * Mami Wata
    * Obeah
    * Oyotunji
    * Quimbanda
    * Santería (Lukumi)
    * Umbanda
    * Vodou

    [edit] Indigenous traditional religions
    See also: Paganism and Folk religion

    Traditionally, these faiths have all been classified "Pagan", but scholars prefer the terms "indigenous/primal/folk/ethnic religions".

    [edit] African
    Main article: African traditional religions

    West Africa

    * Akan mythology
    * Ashanti mythology (Ghana)
    * Dahomey (Fon) mythology
    * Efik mythology (Nigeria, Cameroon)
    * Igbo mythology (Nigeria, Cameroon)
    * Isoko mythology (Nigeria)
    * Yoruba mythology (Nigeria, Benin)

    Central Africa

    * Bushongo mythology (Congo)
    * Bambuti (Pygmy) mythology (Congo)
    * Lugbara mythology (Congo)

    East Africa

    * Akamba mythology (East Kenya)
    * Dinka mythology (Sudan)
    * Lotuko mythology (Sudan)
    * Masai mythology (Kenya, Tanzania)

    Southern Africa

    * Khoikhoi mythology
    * Lozi mythology (Zambia)
    * Tumbuka mythology (Malawi)
    * Zulu mythology (South Africa)

    [edit] American
    Main article: Native American mythology

    * Abenaki mythology
    * Aztec mythology
    * Blackfoot mythology
    * Cherokee mythology
    * Chickasaw mythology
    * Choctaw mythology
    * Creek mythology
    * Crow mythology
    * Ghost Dance
    * Guarani mythology
    * Haida mythology
    * Ho-Chunk mythology
    * Hopi mythology
    * Huron mythology
    * Inca mythology
    * Inuit mythology
    * Iroquois mythology
    * Kwakiutl mythology
    * Lakota mythology
    * Leni Lenape mythology
    * Longhouse religion
    * Maya mythology
    * Midewiwin
    * Native American Church
    * Navajo mythology
    * Nootka mythology
    * Olmec mythology
    * Pawnee mythology
    * Salish mythology
    * Seneca mythology
    * Selk'nam religion
    * Tsimshian mythology
    * Urarina
    * Ute mythology
    * Zuni mythology

    [edit] Eurasian
    Main article: Eurasian Indigenous Religions

    Asian

    * Bön
    * Chinese mythology
    * Japanese mythology
    * Koshinto
    * Siberian Shamanism
    * Tengriism

    European

    * Estonian mythology
    * Eskimo religion
    * Finnish mythology and Finnish paganism
    * Hungarian folk religion
    * Sami religion (including the Noaidi)
    * Tadibya

    [edit] Oceania/Pacific

    * Australian Aboriginal mythology
    * Austronesian beliefs
    o Balinese mythology
    o Javanese beliefs
    o Melanesian mythology
    o Micronesian mythology
    + Modekngei
    + Nauruan indigenous religion
    o Philippine mythology
    + Anito
    + Gabâ
    + Kulam
    o Polynesian mythology
    + Hawaiian mythology
    + Maori mythology
    # Maori religion
    + Rapa Nui mythology
    # Moai
    # Tangata manu

    [edit] Cargo cults
    Main article: Cargo cults

    * John Frum
    * Johnson cult
    * Prince Philip Movement
    * Vailala Madness

    [edit] Historical polytheism
    Further information: Prehistoric religion and History of religion

    [edit] Ancient Near Eastern
    Main article: Ancient Near Eastern religions

    * Ancient Egyptian religion
    * Ancient Semitic religions
    * Mesopotamian mythology
    o Arabian mythology (pre-Islamic)
    o Babylonian and Assyrian religion
    + Babylonian mythology
    + Chaldean mythology
    o Canaanite mythology
    + Canaanite religion
    o Hittite mythology
    o Persian mythology
    o Sumerian mythology

    [edit] Indo-European
    Main article: Proto-Indo-European religion

    * Proto-Indo-Iranian religion
    o Zoroastrianism
    o Historical Vedic religion
    * Baltic polytheism
    * Celtic polytheism
    o Brythonic mythology
    o Gaelic mythology
    * Germanic polytheism
    o Anglo-Saxon religion
    o Norse religion
    o Continental Germanic religion
    * Greek polytheism
    * Hungarian polytheism
    * Finnish polytheism
    * Roman polytheism
    * Slavic polytheism

    [edit] Hellenistic
    Main article: Hellenistic religion

    * Mystery religions
    o Eleusinian Mysteries
    o Mithraism
    o Orphism
    * Pythagoreanism
    * Early Christianity
    * Gallo-Roman religion

    [edit] Neopaganism
    Main article: List of Neopagan movements

    [edit] New Age, Esotericism, Mysticism
    Main articles: New Age, Esotericism, and Mysticism

    * Anthroposophy
    * Christian mysticism
    * Esoteric Christianity
    * Hindu mysticism
    * Martinism
    * Meher Baba
    * Nazi mysticism
    * Occultism
    * Rosicrucian
    o Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis
    o Ancient Order of the Rosicrucians
    o Rosicrucian Fellowship
    * Surat Shabd Yoga
    o Tantra
    + Ananda Marga Tantra-Yoga
    * Sufism
    * Thelema

    [edit] Left-Hand Path
    Main article: Left-Hand Path and Right-Hand Path

    * Luciferianism
    * Satanism
    * Setianism

    [edit] Magic
    Main article: Magic (religion)

    * Hoodoo (Rootwork)
    o New Orleans Voodoo
    * Kulam - Filipino witchcraft
    * Magick
    o Chaos magic
    o Enochian magic
    o Demonolatry
    + Goetia
    * Pow-wow
    * Seid (shamanic magic)
    * Vaastu Shastra
    * Witchcraft

    [edit] New religious movements
    Main article: List of new religious movements

    [edit] Shinshukyo
    Main article: Shinshūkyō

    * Church of World Messianity
    * PL Kyodan
    * Seicho-No-Ie

    [edit] Fictional religions
    Main article: List of fictional religions

    [edit] Parody or mock religions

    * Church of Euthanasia
    * Church of the SubGenius
    * The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
    * Invisible Pink Unicorn
    * Kibology
    * Landover Baptist Church
    * Church of Milesology

    [edit] Others

    * Unitarian Universalism
    * Discordianism
    * Ethical Culture
    * Fellowship of Reason
    * Humanism
    * Secular Humanism
    * Juche
    * Subud
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ual_traditions
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    Re: The true religion.

    You assume that they are all equally valid. Scholarly debate should eliminate most of not all of the others on that list.

    Id take the religion that:

    1. Has an unchanged scripture
    2. Uses reason anchored by revelation
    3. Has clear answers for important topics
    4. Has demonstrable miracles.
    Last edited by AntiKarateKid; 06-28-2009 at 07:48 PM.
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    Re: The true religion.

    format_quote Originally Posted by AntiKarateKid View Post
    You assume that they are all equally valid. Scholarly debate should eliminate most of not all of the others on that list.
    Without faith, all are eliminated.
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    Re: The true religion.

    So what is this trying to proove?
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    Re: The true religion.

    format_quote Originally Posted by AntiKarateKid View Post
    Id take the religion that:

    1. Has an unchanged scripture
    2. Uses reason anchored by revelation
    3. Has clear answers for important topics
    4. Has demonstrable miracles.
    Most of them claim to have all four.

    ... by the way, where are these miracles?
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    Re: The true religion.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Charzhino View Post
    So what is this trying to proove?
    Every single one of you is probably ****ed.
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    Re: The true religion.

    Football - The True Religion of the UK
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    Re: The true religion.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Blackpool View Post
    Football - The True Religion of the UK
    haha, true enough
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    Re: The true religion.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gubbleknucker View Post
    Without faith, all are eliminated.
    Wrong. Faith should have a reasonable basis. I have faith that my teacher won't start tap dancing on the table during the next class.
    Last edited by AntiKarateKid; 06-28-2009 at 07:59 PM.
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    Re: The true religion.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gubbleknucker View Post
    Most of them claim to have all four.

    ... by the way, where are these miracles?
    Just because you claim something doesn't make it true. Prophecies the Quran makes are good examples. In addition to the fact that 1400 years later, people haven't been able to produce a similar work of Arab literature. Which is strange since according to non-believers Propeht Muhammad pbuh was just a regular guy or he was mad.
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    Re: The true religion.

    Please provide specifics...

    Prophecy? I think of...
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    Re: The true religion.

    Nostradamous was vague, Muhammad (peace be upon him) was specific and more accurate.

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    Anything that is both specific AND verifiable?
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    Re: The true religion.

    really, neopaganism, Hinduism, shintoism, Haitian mythology just to name a few from that above beefy list claim to be Abrahamic in origin? who came up with this list? an atheist with alot of time on his hands? Hilarious!

    can soft and hard and reformed and republican and democratic and orthodox atheists claim a direct link to dawkin?..
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    Re: The true religion.

    by the way, when you make such allegations it is best to defend them. I expect that you show the link between each of the above listed and their relationship to Abrahamic faith to a level! ...

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    Re: The true religion.

    most of those are not even religions -
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    Thank-you Gubbleknucker, for this very comprehensive list of beliefs. Which is correct?
    One of them, some of them, all of them? or is their no god at all?

    In my view, any belief (or non belief), as long as it is sincere, and does not cause harm to others, does not promote hatred of any kind is valid.

    The Truth of no belief can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt either in a court of law or by the scientific method. Who, therefore, am I to discredit anyone's faith? Granted, their are some primitive religions who have some practices may not fit with our modern science, but they work for the people and societies in which they flourish.

    Religious beliefs and faith depend on the level of intellectual and spiritual development of the individual. So, it seems logical that a person chooses the (non) belief that most resonates with him/her.

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    Re: The true religion.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    really, neopaganism, Hinduism, shintoism, Haitian mythology just to name a few from that above beefy list claim to be Abrahamic in origin? who came up with this list? an atheist with alot of time on his hands? Hilarious!

    can soft and hard and reformed and republican and democratic and orthodox atheists claim a direct link to dawkin?..
    Check the list again, none of the religions that you mentioned above are associated with Abrahamic religions according to the list.
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    Re: The true religion.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sarada View Post
    Check the list again, none of the religions that you mentioned above are associated with Abrahamic religions according to the list.
    I have gone over the list, the alleged religions are far removed from 'Abrahamic' unless the term holds a meaning for them than to those who actually follow it.
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    Re: The true religion.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sarada View Post

    In my view, any belief (or non belief), as long as it is sincere, and does not cause harm to others, does not promote hatred of any kind is valid.
    If you were truly sincere, you would be a Muslim by now. It doesnt take long to realize and acknowledge the truth.

    Funny how the original post has all the schools of thought under Sunni Islam as if they are somethig out of Islam. Ignorance is a very bad thing I guess.

    Firstly, we have to come to the conclusion that there is ONE God. Now, if there is One God there has to be only One truth. You cannot be a sincere and peaceful "snake worshipper" and a sincere peaceful worshipper of the One True God Who created the universe, independent of any needs, and claim that both of these groups are on the "truth". NO! There is only one truth.

    Life is a test. We have to declare the Shahadah before we die.
    Its amazing how we work hard every day to make sure our lives are peaceful and happy. Unfortunately, we are neglecting the true life that is awaiting us after death. We want HVAC system in our houses to make sure we have the right temperature in the house. The hell fire is 500 times hottter than the fire of this world. Belief in the Oneness of God and His messengers is the key to Paradise.

    'Truly Hell is a place of ambush.
    For the transgressors a place of dwelling.
    They will abide therein for ages.
    Nothing cool shall they taste therein, Nor any drink.
    Except boiling water, and dirty wound discharges.
    An exact recompense (according to their crimes).
    For that they used not to look for any account.
    But they (impudently) treated Our signs as false.
    And all things have We preserved on record.
    So taste ye (the fruits of your deeds);
    For no increase shall We grant you;
    Except in Chastisement.'
    (Surah An-Nabaa: 21-30)


    ...and this is NOT scare tactics, this is the truth.
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