Why do you think your religion is true?

format_quote Originally Posted by Gubbleknucker

Since it's MY religion, I can give MY God whatever characteristics I want.

My God can make mistakes.

Nobody worships my God, either, under penalty of being ridiculed.

You wouldn't have to penalize people not to follow your so-called religion because nobody in their right mind would follow it anyway. How exactly can an atheist be God? And where were we all last week before you allegedly created us? That's assuming you are God, which you couldn't possibly be because the term 'God' itself implies a supernatural being devoid of imperfections and the last time I checked, mistakes aren't supernatural. Not even close. In fact, they're below average.


Sorry to shatter your fantasies but you'll have to find a new term for yourself because this one is taken.

Gubblenucker, it looks to me like you're the one who started and is perpetuating the "ridicule" here. I don't know how many times I have tried in vain to explain to atheists that if they don't want to reinforce negative stereotypes about their ethical nature then they need to stop feeding into the stereotypes with all the jeering, insulting, and vitriol. You're not representing your kind well. You're just feeding the stereotypes.

all Gubbleknucker did was to say what he believes is his religion, as this thread asks why do you think your religion is true. and after all he's only said what he believes. he did not start arguing with us when we said why we think Islam is the truth.

^who is it and what is it in your term? you can explain to me if you want.

To all the folks that are taking Gubbleknucker's comments as anything other than a very lousy attempt at humor, please just don't waste your time typing up any rebuttal towards him. Leave that stuff to Gubbleknucker, he has plenty of time on his hands since he has no diety to go and worship and thank for breathing and allowing him to have the intellect and choice to disobey Him.

format_quote Originally Posted by AntiKarateKid

Someone says something for the sole purpose of irritating the responders and flaring tempers, though they may actually believe what they are saying.

brother, im not going to argue with you over Gubbleknucker. its funny though... Gubbleknucker just said what he believes. but we dont believe him. it was just a respond to a thread for different religions. he might say something, and know we're not going to like it. but it shouldnt really matter, if he's purpose was to start an argument or just reply to a thread. i do understand what your saying though .

So what make you think that your religion is true?

Is there any logical reason other than that you believe your prophet or guru?

We dont think that our religion is true.We know our religion is true.Just step out of your home and see around yourself, there are uncountable things.Who created it?It definitely can't be a fluke or something.One Who created is who we call Allah and the men who were sent by Allah to teach people were Prophets.If there were no prophets, there wasn't any name of shame.Hindus believe that there idol created it.It even can't move the bee sitting on it!!Can it?!It even cant talk!It even can't do something and the worst, the people create it.The difference is that our God created us and they create their God! Christians believe that Jesus(ISA R.A) is the son of Allah.Can this even happen?How can a person be a son of A lord, which is completely different?And dont you know that Isa(R.A) himself said when he was borned that I have no father.
These are the two major religions so I talked about them.

Assalmu allikum.....I would like to share my part.

there is to two poof for the existance of God.

1] Quran
2]heaven,earth.................all Living & Non Livingthings

1] QURAN

A]NO ONE CAN CREATE A SINGLE SURAH IN QURAN...NO TILL DATE HAS NOT, & CANT DO THIS ITSELF MAKE WHOLE QURAN OUT OF MANS CREATION.

B]SCEINTIFIC KNOWLEDGE IN QURAN......ALL FINDS IN QURAN ARE IMPOSSIBLE 1000 YEARS BEFORE...BECS IT NEED BOTH MAN & ADVANCE EQUIPMENTS,,,.............BUT IN THE 600AD THERE NO EQUIPMENT TO FIND BY MAN.

C]HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE IN QURAN.......WITHOUT ANY MISTAKES .........(PAST)

D]PREDICTION OF FUTURE......

E] UN COMPARABLE & APPROPRIATE LIFE STYLE ADVISED IN QUARN - IS SCEINTIFICALY,SOCIALY & ECONOMICALY FOR WELLBEING HUMAN KIND...........IS NOT MUSLIMS & NON-MUSLIMS ?

F]IT REMAINED UNALTERED SINCE IT REVELLED FROM ALL & CHALLAENGE IT STAY TILL LAST DAY.

H]ALL OTHER RELIGIOUS TEXTS LOST ITS ORGINAL EXISTANCE...AND CONTAIN SCEINTIFIC & CONTARARY MISTAKES.

WHAT MORE U NEED ....IF U HAV WISDOM..Y U COULDNT UNDERSTANT DIVINITY OF QURAN.

2]EATH&HEAVEN & LIVING & NON LIVINGTHINGS........

A] R MAN CREATED AS PER WISH OF MAN/HIS PARENTS ...ANSWER IS NO.......
HE ONLY KNOWN ABT HIS IDENTITY AFTER HE CREATED & GIVEN WISDOM
-----------THEREFORE WHO GIVEN THIS LIFE......CREATOR

THE MENTAL&PHYSICAL STRUCTURE GIVEN TO US IS NOT AS PER OUR WISH...SO DECIDED TO GIVE US THIS STRUCTURE WITH WISDOM IS SOLE OWNER OF HUMAN BEING.....SO OBEY & REPENT TO HIM

B] IF ALL WERE CREATED BECAUSE AS PROCESS OF NATURE AS PER ATHIESTS......


THEN Y THERE IS DIVISON BETWEEN LIVING & NONLIVING THING...

WHY ALL NOT TURNED TO LIVINGTHINGS.


C] IF U LOOK THE MANGO TREE...U CAN FIND HOW IT IS GROWN AND AT A SUDDEN HOW RED MANGO'S COME OUT OF THE SEEDS WHICH TASTY AND EATABLE......
CAN MAN MAKE A SMALL TREE/POWDER OF SOIL......NO............

SO MAN IS ONLY SMALL PART OF NATURE / ANOTHER MANGO TREE......

THIS ALL WORLD IS ABSOLUTE WONDER IF U THINK...SO THER IS POWER..BEHIND IT...

ITS ALLAH SWABAHAN THAHALLA.............

Asssalamu allikum.............

3] prophetMohammed( salawu allaiwa sallam)..................

a]1st he is honest...all muslims & non muslim...agreed....so wat he said is true.

b] his life...is miracle....its him through allah......shown....policitcal,social,economical,s ceintifcal...historical..revelation...its not possible for any person /group to make a miraculos texts like this

c] mohammed(sas)............most followed man in the world.........

d) all his action is recorded...........

jazaka llah ghair

Greetings,

format_quote Originally Posted by MMohammed

We dont think that our religion is true.We know our religion is true.

That's the kind of certainty that only religious faith can provide.

Peace

You are right but still its like an inner feeling that Islam is correct after seeing through the different things.And its not too difficult to follow as people make it.

format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson

Greetings,


That's the kind of certainty that only religious faith can provide.

Peace

I don't know. You certainly seem certain, or else you wouldn't be an atheist, you'd be an agnostic.

I don't understand why everyone freaked out about what I said.

There was also no need to defend it based upon it being my belief. It is not my belief.

This thread was about religion, not belief. I know many people who practice a religion they do not really believe in.

You certainly seem certain, or else you wouldn't be an atheist, you'd be an agnostic.

This has been explained many times: Atheists are generally agnostics as well. If you can give solid evidence of God's existence, I will convert, so it cannot be said that I accept atheism on faith. I don't know, and I don't believe.

"Words are slippery things, and language is inexact. Beware of assuming that you can work out someone's philosophical point of view simply from the fact that she calls herself an atheist or an agnostic. For example, many people use agnosticism to mean what is referred to here as "weak atheism," and use the word "atheism" only when referring to "strong atheism."

from http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...hew/intro.html


Definition of atheism

Greetings,

format_quote Originally Posted by Yahya Sulaiman

I don't know. You certainly seem certain, or else you wouldn't be an atheist, you'd be an agnostic.

Have a look at what Gubbleknucker said.

Peace

I'm not here to debate semantics so forget I said it. I am at least glad that Gubblenucker's remarks in this thread have started veering from mockery into seriousness. I encourage him to continue it. If either he or czgibson wants to debate the existence of God then I will oblige.