This is primarily for reverts as the poll questions reflect. However do not let not being a revert keep you from stating your reason you believe the Qur'an is the word of Allaah(swt)
Notice there are very few choices in the poll this is deliberate as I am trying to find hat is the most effective method for Da'wah among English speaking people.
Re: Poll: What convinced you the Qur'an is the truth
When I read Qur'an it was as if it was exactly what I had been searching for all my life, it made so much sense to me like it was addressing all the questions that had been on my mind for two years.
It's like it was talking to my soul if that makes sense. It's as if the book knew exactly how I was feeling inside and knew what to say to answer me, it's like the book understood me. Like it was reading my mind. It's hard to explain.
imagine 1 person who knows you better than any one else and knows what your concerns are and worries and he's able to talk to you in such a way that makes you feel like he understands you and answer all your questions.
that's how the Qur'an made me feel, like it knew my inner thoughts and feelings.
I really don't know how to explain it
Last edited by Salahudeen; 12-01-2009 at 10:36 PM.
“Who said that guidance requires there to be someone accompanying you"
Re: Poll: What convinced you the Qur'an is the truth
Long story. My faith in Islam came about for silly reasons that you can't imagine a person like me accepting, and if my faith had to rest on those things then I would have stopped being Muslim long ago.
When people build a bridge they pile a lot of old bricks in the river first, or make a poor wooden frame to hold it up. Then they put the clean-cut stone and the smooth paving over the top. When they knock down the wooden frame or take away the pile of old bricks, the bridge stays intact. It holds itself up without support.
My faith was built like this bridge. I never had a heart of stone, a good solid reason for becoming a Muslim. But even after all the lies and garbage people had built me on were washed out by the water, I still stayed firm and dry.
In these past few months my faith has weakened catastrophically. It probably won't last much longer. But that bridge, that bridge between me and God that was built all those years ago, that will never break.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Fishman
Long story. My faith in Islam came about for silly reasons that you can't imagine a person like me accepting, and if my faith had to rest on those things then I would have stopped being Muslim long ago.
When people build a bridge they pile a lot of old bricks in the river first, or make a poor wooden frame to hold it up. Then they put the clean-cut stone and the smooth paving over the top. When they knock down the wooden frame or take away the pile of old bricks, the bridge stays intact. It holds itself up without support.
My faith was built like this bridge. I never had a heart of stone, a good solid reason for becoming a Muslim. But even after all the lies and garbage people had built me on were washed out by the water, I still stayed firm and dry.
In these past few months my faith has weakened catastrophically. It probably won't last much longer. But that bridge, that bridge between me and God that was built all those years ago, that will never break.
Quite interesting Ahki. It is true a person can revert for the wrong reason. But, if they have resurfaced the road and repaired the bridge, the path can still become a high quality super highway. But, there may be some bumps and potholes in need of patching before you can be assured a smooth safe journey.
Re: Poll: What convinced you the Qur'an is the truth
This is an interesting question. Very interesting to me. As some of you may know I have been reading the Quran but as yet have not become convinced that it is the truth or that it was given to Muhammad (pbuh) by God. But I still have an open mind. Some of it is very impressive, but I have not become convinced by the arguments made by many that it reflects scientific miracles, etc.
I come from a Mormon background and no longer believe in that religion. In Mormonism, they try and base a lot of the truth of the church on whether the book of Mormon is true. If the book of Mormon is true, then they say the church is true. But how does one know if the book of Mormon is true? By the power of the Holy Ghost. In other words, feelings or a personal revelation. The say if you pray then you will know by the power of the Holy Ghost. Well, the Holy Ghost never told me the book of Mormon is true, and it is so obviously a hoax, my brain told me it wasn't true. But a lot of people claim they have a personal witness from the Holy Ghost that it is true.
The problem with basing your belief in a book on personal feelings is that they are just that, personal feelings and not verifiable. Personal feelings don't prove anything IMHO.
I will be interested to see how the poll turns out.
I appreciate your allowing me to be here and discuss these questions with you.
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Also, somebody close to me got afflicted with a Jinn, and we tried loads of anti psychotic drugs and none of them worked, Also we were so westernized we never even thought of it to be a jinn, we thought she'd lost it and gone mad, we were ready to send her to the mental home.
But alhamdulilah my aunty who was praticing told us it could be a jinn so we went about seeking cures for jinn posession and they worked. That's the moment I realised that Islam has to be the truth, especially when you see someone performing ruqya and how much the Qur'an affects the person with the jinn.
If I told the doctors I thought she had a jinn they would've probably put me in the mental home with her lol. it's really bad how they just throw every 1 exhibiting symptoms of madness into the mental home. they completely rule out the paranormal aspect of it.
Last edited by Salahudeen; 12-02-2009 at 04:34 PM.
“Who said that guidance requires there to be someone accompanying you"
Re: Poll: What convinced you the Qur'an is the truth
subhanAllah brother squiggle.amazing story mashallah.
for me i never really thought about the Quraan for a long time. I believed in Allah because of the world around us and the logic. As I began to read the Quraan I found things to me which made sense. It just clicked. even now when i read whilst it is the written foundation of Islm I don't believe you need to have read the Quraan to become a Muslim. There are many people who believe in the oneness of Allah without having read the Quraan, however if they were to read the Quraan I am sure that they would become muslims.
I'm unsure how to express what I'm trying to say correctly, sorry , I've been writing essays all day and my mind is now mush. Forgive me if I havent explained anything clearly.
Re: Poll: What convinced you the Qur'an is the truth
format_quote Originally Posted by Fishman
Long story. My faith in Islam came about for silly reasons that you can't imagine a person like me accepting, and if my faith had to rest on those things then I would have stopped being Muslim long ago.
When people build a bridge they pile a lot of old bricks in the river first, or make a poor wooden frame to hold it up. Then they put the clean-cut stone and the smooth paving over the top. When they knock down the wooden frame or take away the pile of old bricks, the bridge stays intact. It holds itself up without support.
My faith was built like this bridge. I never had a heart of stone, a good solid reason for becoming a Muslim. But even after all the lies and garbage people had built me on were washed out by the water, I still stayed firm and dry.
In these past few months my faith has weakened catastrophically. It probably won't last much longer. But that bridge, that bridge between me and God that was built all those years ago, that will never break.
I want to give you reps but it wont let me. I agree wholeheartdly with what you have said. even the weakened imaan thing may Allah protect us from Shaitaan.ameen
Re: Poll: What convinced you the Qur'an is the truth
I 1st heard the Quran on Youtube and then my muslim friends told me more about it and I knew it was the true word of Allah. I got my hands on an english copy of the Quran and read it more and the more I read the more I belived it was true.
O Allah, I seek help from you. I seek your forgiveness. I seek your guidance. I believe in you.
Re: Poll: What convinced you the Qur'an is the truth
I'm finding the poll to be quite interesting. What I am seeing so far is the best Da'wah is to let people have access to the Qur'an and let them do a sincere study of it. If they accept it the feeling they gain will be the reason to revert.
I kind of suspected that youtube videos, while interesting to us Muslims actually have no impact or very little impact on non-Muslims. Doesn't seem to be a good method of Da'wah.
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For me it was reflecting on Quran and my life this and afterlife, experience people and prayer in the mosque, watching hajj; which lead me to the conclusion that Quran is true word of God. But this doesn't mean I can understand or confirm everything in the Quran, I'm a human and subjected to limits in knowledge, however, sometimes most important decisions are not made with 100% knowledge, fuzzy logic is very important to us humans.
It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).
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From what I am seing in this thread is the Qur'an itself is the best Da'wah. I sort of had a feeling that too many of us have been using what we see the Evangelical Christians do.
Jazakallahu Khayran to all for your very helpful input and may the knowledge you shared help my Da'wah efforts bear fruit.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
From what I am seing in this thread is the Qur'an itself is the best Da'wah. I sort of had a feeling that too many of us have been using what we see the Evangelical Christians do.
Jazakallahu Khayran to all for your very helpful input and may the knowledge you shared help my Da'wah efforts bear fruit.
Is persuasive dawah really a good thing? If people accept a religion that they aren't really meant to, that usually only leads to confusion and pain. Some converts leave after a week. Some have no real faith. Some take practicing their new religion lightly. And some become immersed and enthralled by the Love of God in only the first few months. Isn't it better to simply tell people of Islam and then let the wheat separate from the chaff by itself?
Re: Poll: What convinced you the Qur'an is the truth
many reasons made me believe the Quran is true, youtube videos were good for me as some speakers shock the reality of the instability and inaccuracy of the bible in this day and age. knowing that muslims believe in Jesus, and the origin of the word Allah and the fact it was used in the original bibles and Jesus prayed to Allah also, gave me a nudge. when i did not understand the meaning of the words it did not mean anything to me other than another religion.
having a belief in god but unsure of the origin of proof, finding that the Noble Quran was the only scripture which was not changed since revealed to one same man muhammed pbuh and stayed in original language and was memorized by millions, and there was reference within that said this is the only scripture that would not be corrupted by man, made me understand that the Quran is the true word of Allah.
upon reading the first page of the Quran translation, it was obvious that this was the true book and i had found the message Alhamdulilah. delving into any chapter of the Quran i see that there are clear messages to stay on true for the gardens of paradise and clear examples of how to avoid a painful doom and i can relate to that.
as much as i didnt think it would be right, it ticked all the boxes, i could not deny it. no more searching, although at the time i didnt know the basics of Islam just thought i say testimony and continue same old, i felt i had no choice but to say testimony, repeatedly being told only muslims get into heaven no one knows when they gonna die, seemed harsh but maybe was the push i needed. alhamdulilah i did when i did but tbh would have liked to hav known more about the rules of good muslims beforehand. but ma sha Allah what can i say, more than its what Allah willed for me.
i guess its different for everyone and it kinda boils down to what you think the purpose of life is (excellant lecture- my non muslim ppl too afraid to watch it cos they loving the duniya too hard) we can love here or we can love paradise! wrap that up getting long!!
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Re: Poll: What convinced you the Qur'an is the truth
format_quote Originally Posted by Fishman
Is persuasive dawah really a good thing? If people accept a religion that they aren't really meant to, that usually only leads to confusion and pain. Some converts leave after a week. Some have no real faith. Some take practicing their new religion lightly. And some become immersed and enthralled by the Love of God in only the first few months. Isn't it better to simply tell people of Islam and then let the wheat separate from the chaff by itself?
Miracles alone don't make a true believer.
That is what I said in my lopsided manner. Or I should that is what I thought I said.
Jazakallahu Khayran for the clarification. Sometimes I believe I speak "Native Confusion"
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