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    A problem with Budhhism (OP)


    The whole thing with Buddhism is that this life is a life of suffering and misery. This comes because of desire. By removing desire, you will remove suffering and misery. Your desire can be removed by following The
    Eight Fold Path. I find 4 problems with this belief:

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    Why would God create you, then bring suffering and misery upon you, and then tell you how to remove this suffering and misery? Or let you figure it out by yourself? Its just illogical, and absurd.


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    If it was not God, as many Buddhist believe, because many buddhist are Atheists, then why do it? Why if I will not get anywhere after I die, should I spend my whole life trying to remove my suffering and misery? I at least would have lived my life. There is no reason for me to spend my life by removing my misery and suffering, and after all that, all I have left is me without any suffering and misery. Fine, its good to remove your suffering and misery. Everyone wants to be happy etc, but what happens after that? I have lived my whole life getting my suffering and misery to go away by following some rules, and I don't get nothing out of it. Yes, I don't have suffering and misery upon me anymore, but nothing big has really happened. I am still here in this evil world and will go nowhere (or become a animal as Buddhists or some Buddhists believe) after I die. So all this is just for this one and only life that I have. I would have done it, but just if I will get a reward for it, like eternal paradise. If not, I would rather live my only life instead of spending it on something meaningless. If no God and no after life, then spending you entire life on this Buddhist thing, is just ridiculous. You will maybe (not all buddhist doing this do in fact become without suffering or misery, and I doubt any do in fact) get your suffering and misery away, but you can do it in many ways. You don't have to be a Buddhist to remove your desire. You can be a Muslim too, because Muslims also believe in doing good deeds and not let your desire (Satan) trick you. Or you can just take a happy pill (joke). Not everybody will get their suffering and misery removed by following Buddhism. Many will find it not doing nothing with their suffering and misery, and on the other hand, many will. Buddhism isn't a cure for suffering and misery. It tells you how to remove it, but its "how" may not work for everybody. Its basically just a philosophy. Many people have different "how" to remove suffering, misery and getting happy etc, but none if these are facts. You have to see for yourself what is working for you. If Buddhism removes your desire, then that is what is working for you. If it is traveling then that is what is working for you. There is nothing which works for everybody. If 1 million people who have a lot of suffering and misery upon thems try out Buddhism as their cure, do you think everybody would be happy? Of course not. If it where, then you will not see so many Buddhists coming to Islam etc. I know many Buddhist who left their faith. If it really did remove their suffering and misery, then why did they leave it? Probably because Buddhism isn't the complet answer to suffering and misery, but just a "how" meaning, which can work for someone, but not all.


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    Many things can't be done away just by removing your desire. For example cancer and in fact every other sickness. So Buddhism can't remove every suffering and misery, because its "how" to remove it, can't remove all of it. If you can just remove some suffering and misery, but not all, then what's the point? Buddha told us that desire is what removes suffering and misery, but if he meant ALL suffering and misery then he must have been very unintelligent, because desire can't remove every suffering and misery. If it could, people wouldn't try to still find a cure for chancer. So Buddhism doesn't remove or give answers how to remove all of your suffering and misery, just some of them. And if not removing all of it, but just some of it, why live all your life following i

    4) If you say that you in fact will get a reward for this after you die, that is by spending your life by getting your suffering and misery away, then another problem arise: Why would God create you, then bring suffering and misery upon you, then tell you how to remove it or let you figure it out, and then when you have done it and died, you will get a reward for it? Seems like God didn't have much to do. It's like he created us just for fun or something. It's like this: I make a Pizza, then put a bad thing inside of it, and before I give it to my friend, I tell him how to remove thid bad thing from the Pizza, and when you have successfully removed that bad thing, you can eat this good Pizza. Do you see the illogicality in this? Why would I put a bad thing inside that Pizza at the first place? And if you say that doing this will get you to become a animal, then God is just cruel! First he brings this suffering upon you and after you have removed it, he let you become a Animal?

    I am not a expert on Buddhism, but my logic and understanding of this teaching says that it's absurd. I may be wrong. I would like a Buddhist here to answer me this. And I'm soory if this hurted any Buddhists, because my intention was not to hurt anyone, just to tell you my problem with this belief, which may be wrong, but which I would still believe is right until someone proves me wrong. This is basically a challenge to Buddhists, and I will accept that I was wrong, if you really can prove me wrong.


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    You provide food and water and money and heat, first and foremost, so that they can live, and to the degree that you do it for the sake of how they feel it is more often to achieve the positive position of their happiness, not the avoidance of the negative position of their pain. Isn't that how people in love tend to think? "I want them to be happy"? That's what comes naturally, whereas "I don't want them to feel so bad" pops up only when some crisis happens by chance to make the situation specially come up. But more than anything your love for them is an end in it itself, and seems to exist kind of independently of anyone's feelings. Even if your actions never affected the qualia of the object of your love, wouldn't you still feel an obligation towards that person? Love is just a part of you. And matters of principle in general go beyond suffering likewise, and operate on the same...uh...principle. Curse the limitations of the English language.

    In short what we should do is always more about what should be, and not about what anyone feels.
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