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    A survey you've probably never seen (OP)


    Here’s a little survey I’ll bet you’ve never seen before. It consists of two questions:

    1. Muslims: what is your favorite passage from The Bible?
    2. Christians: what is your favorite passage from The Qur’an?

    Nobody else is eligible to give a vote, nobody is allowed to answer for their own scripture—and nobody is allowed to troll! Serious, tolerant answers only. No offensive or provocative passages are to be listed, even if they genuinely are your favorites (in which case grow up!).

    Somehow I don’t expect to get many responses but I may as well give it the ol’ college try. I’ll go first.

    When you sit down to eat with a ruler, observe carefully what is before you—and put a knife to your throat if you have a big appetite. (Proverbs 23:1-2, New Revised Standard Version)
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    Peace be to any prophets I may have mentioned above. Praised and exalted be my Maker, if I have mentioned Him. (Come to think of it praise Him anyway.)

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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

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    I don't think in the 'OT' it's meant as love between two humans but I take it as such.
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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    Greetings and peace be with you MustafaMc;

    Peaceful greetings upon you, Eric H, that was an amazing post. I assume that you composed that by yourself as I did not see a reference. This is certainly an aspect of Allah (swt) that is dear to me and a personal expression of the Most Gracious, Most Merciful that is very important to my understanding of Islam.
    I can only take the credit for copying and pasting the article from this forum, sadly references do not have a great meaning to me, just the text, so I am not sure of its origin. You guys post some good stuff on this forum, keep up the good work.

    In the spirit of striving towards a greater interfaith friendship and understanding,

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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    Poted by osman on this forum

    The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said, “Shall I inform you of the best morals of this world and the hereafter?

    They are to forgive he who oppresses you, to make a bond with he who severs from you, to be kind to he who insults you, and to give to he who deprives you.

    6. The Prophet said: 'Blessed is he who preoccupies himself with his own defects, rather than those of others.'
    (Musnad Al-Bazzâr)
    posted by Alpha Dude on this forum,

    Husn al-Dhann (Arabic: حسن الظن) is a very beautiful Islamic teaching. It means in other words:

    * Avoiding suspicion as much as humanly possible
    * Giving the benefit of the doubt.
    * Thinking good and positively, despite what it might look/sound/feel like.
    * Not jumping to conclusions, or making assumptions.

    If we treat our brothers & sisters as we would love to be treated, and also practice the principle of Husn al-Dhann; we will lead a better life and have less misunderstandings.
    There is a saying about thinking of seventy-somethin' excuses for our brothers & sisters before even beginning to judge them.
    In the spirit of journeying together

    Eric
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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    "If you only love those who love you, do you expect to be rewarded for that? Do not the heathens do that as well?"

    -Jesus, Gospel of Matthew 5:46
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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    Pray for Others to Heal Yourself.

    The Prophet was always concerned about other people, Muslims and non-Muslims, and would regularly pray for them. Praying for others connects you with them and helps you understand their suffering. This in itself has a healing component to it. The Prophet has said that praying for someone who is not present increases love.

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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might" (Deuteronomy 6:5).
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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    Surat Al-Baqarah [verses 30-34]
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    "Happy the nation that knows the cry of praise! They will walk in the light of your presence, Lord,
    and rejoice in your name all the day – for you are the splendour of their strength,
    and by your good will our standard is held high." Ps.88

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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow: And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the birds of the air came and devoured it up. And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth: But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away. And some fell among thorns, the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit. And other fell on good ground, did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, some an hundred. He said unto them, He that has ears to hear, let him hear. (The parable of the sower, Mark 4:3-9)
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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    To IAmZamzam: What the respected brother, "Urban Turban" has mentioned is correct; he had also provided the Fatwaa given by Mufti Ebrahim Desai regarding the issue.

    He has not missed the point of this thread in the least. Do you think Hadhrat `Umar ibn al-Khattaab (Radhiyallaahu `Anhu) was reading the Towraah for the purpose of obtaining guidance? Yet, he was prevented from doing so. Present the reason for this from the authentic Kutub of Hadeeth, that too in the original Arabic text, not a translation. Can you do this? As a layman, such an endeavour is quite beyond you. By what right, then, have you rejected the Fatwaa issued by Mufti Ebrahim Desai? Is it your wish to follow Islaam or to follow a Deen of your own making? Perhaps you would like what some people nowadays term, "an Opera Winfrey Religion".

    Also, I request you to explain what you meant by your statement, "No offensive or provocative passages are to be listed". So if an Aayah of the Qur'aan is seen as "offensive" or "provocative" by the Kuffaar, it should not be recited? It should not be quoted? It should not be taught? We should (Wal `Iyaadhu Billaahi Ta`aalaa) remove it from the Qur'aan Kareem, as well as all other Aayaat the likes of it until we have a Qur'aan which is "unoffensive" and "non-provocative" in the eyes of the Kuffaar and Munaafiqeen? I must be quite honest with you, and my reason for writing this is not to unnecessarily attack you, but to speak the Haqq. What you are trying to do is to extinguish the "Noor" of Allaah Ta`aalaa; an attempt at which you will fail miserably. This is because Allaah Rabbul `Izzah had already promised in the Qur'aan Kareem:

    "Yureedoona li-Yutfi'oo Noorallaahi bi-Afwaahihim, Wallaahu Mutimmu Noorihee wa-low Karihal Kaafiroon." {Soorat-us-Saff}

    (Translation: They desire to put out the Noor of Allaah with their mouths, but Allaah will perfect His Noor, even if the Kaafirs detest it."

    The advice given to you by the brother, "Urban Turban" (May Allaah reward him), was honest advice by which he intended only benefit for you. If you disregard it, and you disregard what I am telling you now, you will definitely come to regret it. Remember that the Deen of Allaah Ta`aalaa is not what you want it to be; never will this be the case. Read the lives of the Sahaabah-e-Kiraam (Ridhwaanullaahi `Alayhim Ajma`een) and you will see the practical explanation of the Qur'aan and of the Sunnah. Take knowledge from the `Ulamaa-e-Haqq, and not from your Nafs and Shaytaan.

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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    Greetings and peace be with you Huzaifah;

    I like this thread started by IamZamzam, it was also aimed at non- Muslims too, he asked us to quote any Islamic message that had meaning for us. He also asked that we should not use each others scriptures in a negative way.
    A number of Muslims here were brought up as Christians, so they will already know Christian scripture. I would just ask that you might not be so hard on your brothers and sisters here. I have a great respect for my Muslim brothers and sisters on this forum, and learned much from them.

    We are all created by the same God, and the same God hears all our prayers despite our differences.

    In the spirit of striving towards a greater interfaith friendship and understanding,

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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    Eric, don't bother: he's going to screen out every word of that as more of our "politically correct" drivel, I'm sure. I know his type too well. It's amazing how you can draw out the most black-and-white, intolerant, ultraconservative nonsense sometimes over the pettiest, most ridiculous, inconsequential things. Huzaifah, I'm not letting you derail the thread either. Anyone can say anything they want: they'll never draw me into an argument. If it's not an answer to my survey I'm not interested.
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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    I like this thread started by IamZamzam, it was also aimed at non- Muslims too, he asked us to quote any Islamic message that had meaning for us. He also asked that we should not use each others scriptures in a negative way.
    A number of Muslims here were brought up as Christians, so they will already know Christian scripture.
    Eric H, my friend, you are exactly correct. I grew up as a Christian and I remember much of the Bible. I still have the New International Version (with much underlining) that I had in college 30 years ago. I read the NT again after I decided to practice Islam nearly 12 years ago; however, from the perspective of my Islamic faith. This time I did not read it with the intention of seeking guidance, but rather to see what was and was not in agreement with my understanding of Islam. Some things stood out to me that I had not noticed before as a Christian, for example Hebrews 7:1-3, Acts 1:21-22, Acts 3:13 and Galatians 1:11-12. Just today I was thinking about the Biblical story of Job.
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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    I have always found the Book of Job ... disturbing.
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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    I request that you stick to the topic, GodIsAll. This isn't the place for textual analysis. It would derail us for thirteen pages and there would be no hope of return.
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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    I like these :

    Matthew 7:7,8 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.


    Matthew 7:1–5 (NKJV) (Also Luke 6:37–42):Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye? First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
    KJV: But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

    Matthew 6:24: No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.

    I also like the prayer of serenity:


    God, give me grace to accept with serenitythe things that cannot be changed,Courage to change the thingswhich should be changed,and the Wisdom to distinguishthe one from the other.Living one day at a time,Enjoying one moment at a time,Accepting hardship as a pathway to peace,Taking, as Jesus did,This sinful world as it is,Not as I would have it,Trusting that You will make all things right,If I surrender to Your will,So that I may be reasonably happy in this life,And supremely happy with You forever in the next.Amen.
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    Fair enough! I am bad for doing this. Duly noted!
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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    Greetings and peace be with you IAmZamzam;

    I like these posted here by Muhammad some time ago

    Ibn Abi’l-Dunya narrated from Ibn ‘Umar that the Prophet said: “The most beloved of people to Allaah is the one who brings most benefit to people, and the most beloved of deeds to Allaah is making a Muslim happy, or relieving him of hardship, or paying off his debt, or warding off hunger from him. For me to go with my Muslim brother to meet his need is dearer to me than observing i’tikaaf in this mosque – meaning the mosque of Madeenah – for a month… whoever goes with his Muslim brother to meet his need, Allaah will make him stand firm on the Day when all feet will slip.” Classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb, 2623.

    The Prophet said : None of you [truly] believes until he loves for his brother that which he loves for himself. [Related by al-Bukhaaree and Muslim]

    In the spirit of praying to 'One God'

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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    Hmm, I grew up in a predominantly Christian household and attended Church services for a very long time,
    and various Christian academies for almost a decade.
    (I'm agnostic only because Christianity has never quite resonated with me)
    Even though I may not be eligible, I thought this verse too good not to share.

    ‘Turn not your cheek away from people in scorn and pride, and walk not on earth haughtily; for Allah does not love anyone who acts proudly and boastfully. Be modest in your bearing and lower your voice; for the ugliest sound is the donkey’s braying.’
    (Luqman 31: 18-19)
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    Re: A survey you've probably never seen

    (Qur'an 60:7-8): "It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just."
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    I can do no other.
    May God help me.
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