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    Atheism is a mental illness

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    Atheism leads to mental illness (and possibly is a mental illness) we can deduce this from all the atheists online who have such irrational hatred towards religious people. Their behavior online gives us an insight into their mental health and it clearly isn't healthy, we can deduce this with the emotional rants and hateful things they spew about any who do not share their views. They also hold some irrational and schizophrenic beliefs i.e "all Christians are out to get us!!" and "all Christians oppose science!"

    Their Christophobia and Islamophobia run deeps, it is obvious with all the anti-religious messages they post about these people. Finally, studies have revealed that atheists abuse drugs more than religious people, suffer from more depression, are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety issues and higher aggression levels.

    (Studies:

    Science Daily: Believers consume fewer drugs than atheists https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1003093041.htm

    The American Journal of Psychiatry: Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/...jp.161.12.2303 )

    The evidence tells us that atheism is either a mental disorder or that the behaviour of many atheists often leads to mental illness.
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    Hey, can you stop with these messages? This is not going to help you or this community. You've been warned, I think, for these types of acts in the past.

    Not all athiests hate religion btw
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    I don't get why brother above is opposed to the thread... it is true.
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    I am always dazzled at how atheists deny God, and how they cant see the perfect chemistry in creation. I can almost call it self-denial, or complete ignorance.

    I guess they are immersed in soo much confusion they do not know truth from falsehood in regards to religion.

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    Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
    " Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "

    Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an
    Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.

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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

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    Lol. Well, I was an atheist for a long time before my heart submitted to Islam. And I never saw my "atheism" as a mental illness.

    That said, I think your post is satirical.

    I was never, however, Richard Dawkins-type atheist. What you'll usually find is that atheists don't hate "religions" so much as the so-called "religious" (or more like self-righteous) "hypocrites" that follow religion as tools and then justify their bigotry and hatred and malice from a holy book. For atheists, there is no unifying book like the Bible or Quran or Tanakh which they follow - so, you'll find atheists who are kind and atheists who are hateful.

    About the only thing with which I agree in your post is that atheists probably have higher depression levels and suicide rates than theists; and for that, I truly believe the reason is a lack of individual attention towards some kind of spirituality, which atheists who might practice meditation, for example, probably will not experience.

    As for the comment about their anti-religious messages on the Internet, I find from my own experience that there are more theist trolls on the Internet than atheist trolls; and of course, this is just an anecdotal experience, but I'm sharing this perception because you have shared your opinion also.

    Now, and here's the part that I really want people to know, since atheists are of different type - they might not necessarily even be rejecting God because they don't believe there is a God to reject. In some cases, however, of course, if they have studied a religion or were brought up in a religious household, they might also be specifically rejecting a particular religion and that God. However, that depends on their background.

    Well, of course, if any person (theist or atheist) is taking drugs, they might develop mental health issues; and then I don't think it is an issue of "the behavior of many atheists often leads to mental illness."

    Also, I don't know why theists dislike atheists so much; for one thing, atheists are more likely to protect the religious right (in theory and practice) of a person than another theist. For example, I was watching the Big Question that's hosted in U.K. on YouTube and this woman was talking about human rights and then as a Christian about how she does not like the Muslim woman wearing niqab, and guess who stood up for her right as a Muslim woman to do so as part of freedom of expression? An atheist.

    Generally, I have found that the more "fundamnetalist" a Christian or a Muslim or a Hindu becomes, the less tolerant and less of a decent human being they remain. Ironical, actually. And thereby justifying atheists' criticism of both theism and theists. (Basically, and generally, to be honest, theists are their own worst PR reps.)

    format_quote Originally Posted by SSHorror View Post
    Atheism leads to mental illness (and possibly is a mental illness) we can deduce this from all the atheists online who have such irrational hatred towards religious people. Their behavior online gives us an insight into their mental health and it clearly isn't healthy, we can deduce this with the emotional rants and hateful things they spew about any who do not share their views. They also hold some irrational and schizophrenic beliefs i.e "all Christians are out to get us!!" and "all Christians oppose science!"

    Their Christophobia and Islamophobia run deeps, it is obvious with all the anti-religious messages they post about these people. Finally, studies have revealed that atheists abuse drugs more than religious people, suffer from more depression, are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety issues and higher aggression levels.

    (Studies:

    Science Daily: Believers consume fewer drugs than atheists https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1003093041.htm

    The American Journal of Psychiatry: Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/...jp.161.12.2303 )

    The evidence tells us that atheism is either a mental disorder or that the behaviour of many atheists often leads to mental illness.
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    Greetings,

    format_quote Originally Posted by SSHorror View Post
    Atheism leads to mental illness (and possibly is a mental illness) we can deduce this from all the atheists online who have such irrational hatred towards religious people. Their behavior online gives us an insight into their mental health and it clearly isn't healthy, we can deduce this with the emotional rants and hateful things they spew about any who do not share their views.
    Are you a healthcare professional? If you are, what is your advice for a convinced atheist like me?

    They also hold some irrational and schizophrenic beliefs i.e "all Christians are out to get us!!" and "all Christians oppose science!"
    Obviously not all atheists hold these views. Some Christians are scientists too, of course, so it would be silly to claim that all Christians oppose science.

    What is it about these points of view you've just made up that leads you to describe them as schizophrenic?

    Finally, studies have revealed that atheists abuse drugs more than religious people, suffer from more depression, are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety issues and higher aggression levels.
    Studies also show that atheists are less likely to carry out suicide bombings or to mutilate the genitals of children. What should we conclude from all this?

    The evidence tells us that atheism is either a mental disorder or that the behaviour of many atheists often leads to mental illness.
    I think you should contribute a paper to a journal of psychiatry about this discovery you have made. You're clearly some sort of expert, so I expect your findings will revolutionise the world of mental healthcare.

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    I feel so misunderstood. Sob.
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    format_quote Originally Posted by Reminder View Post
    I don't get why brother above is opposed to the thread... it is true.
    I'm saying this because whe can't be bashing athiests all whilly-nilly.

    Just like our prophet said... don't chase people away from Islam, don't make fun of non muslims.

    I'm also confused at how athiests deny the existence of God, I find the idea quite perplexing. But, we should not make fun of them.
    Atheism is a mental illness

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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

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    format_quote Originally Posted by jabeady View Post
    I feel so misunderstood. Sob.
    That's because you haven't taken your meds prescribed for atheism. If you do, you might magically turn into a theist.

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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

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    @Pygoscelis (Where art thou?)

    This thread awaits your input.
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    Greetings,

    format_quote Originally Posted by Search View Post
    That's because you haven't taken your meds prescribed for atheism. If you do, you might magically turn into a theist.
    I've taken the medicine, but its pharmacological effects have not manifested yet.

    Peace
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    No, I was a theist once already, but my therapist helped me recover.
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

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    format_quote Originally Posted by jabeady View Post
    No, I was a theist once already, but my therapist helped me recover.
    Lol. My post #8 was a joke.

    That said...

    Must have been some therapist.
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    format_quote Originally Posted by Search View Post
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    Lol. My post #8 was a joke.

    That said...

    Must have been some therapist.
    Yes. She was.
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

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    format_quote Originally Posted by jabeady View Post
    Yes. She was.
    On a more serious note, atheism is not any more a mental illness than theism. And no one can force themselves to believe anything. I remember when I was an atheist, I couldn't turn myself magically into a theist. And to my knowledge, there is no med for atheism prescribed by doctors.

    There's this false perception that atheists, if they tried hard enough, could believe in the precepts of theism. But the thing is that the people who believe do so out of their personal conviction, and there's no trying hard enough to do anything, because it is natural and organic and simply exists. In the reverse, unbelief also works in the same way.

    I think the best advice I can give theists wishing to talk to atheists is to be respectful. At the end of the day, that respect will at least get the conversation started.
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

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    Time for new meds? Stronger dosage? Weaker dosage?

    New check-up?

    Or new doctor?

    Oy-ye-vey!

    Mr. czgibson, take heart. There's hope for you yet!

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,



    I've taken the medicine, but its pharmacological effects have not manifested yet.

    Peace

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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    format_quote Originally Posted by Search View Post
    (In the Name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)



    On a more serious note, atheism is not any more a mental illness than theism. And no one can force themselves to believe anything. I remember when I was an atheist, I couldn't turn myself magically into a theist. And to my knowledge, there is no med for atheism prescribed by doctors.

    There's this false perception that atheists, if they tried hard enough, could believe in the precepts of theism. But the thing is that the people who believe do so out of their personal conviction, and there's no trying hard enough to do anything, because it is natural and organic and simply exists. In the reverse, unbelief also works in the same way.

    I think the best advice I can give theists wishing to talk to atheists is to be respectful. At the end of the day, that respect will at least get the conversation started.
    On the same serious note, a year or so ago I began to explore my atheism by setting down in essay form what I think and why I think I think that way. It's grown to 5-1/2 pages and remains a work-in-progress. 5dc3ca8fac6773066f79e6b41c3152bb 1 - Atheism is a mental illness
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaqib View Post
    I'm also confused at how athiests deny the existence of God, I find the idea quite perplexing. But, we should not make fun of them.
    You could always ask one. That's kinda what I did when I wanted to find out more about Muslims.
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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    format_quote Originally Posted by SSHorror View Post
    ... Atheism leads to mental illness ...

    Atheism was an important tool at some point in history. The Christian Church was deeply involved in keeping feudal society going, with its three classes: clergy, nobles, and commoners. Therefore, Christianity was widely seen as a tool to justify an obnoxious kind of inequality. Furthermore, the Church tried to grab control over the printing press to prevent the publication of anything critical of their support for the feudal caste system. The only way to make the revolution against feudal society succeed, was to thoroughly discredit religion. Karl Marx called it "opium for the people", a tool to make people accept evil, partial laws that made people fundamentally unequal. Preferring the idea that there was no God was therefore mostly arbitrary. In the end, this was not what it was all about. It was about the social elite's abuse of power.

    Nowadays, it is the other way around. The very fact that the powers that be, i.e. the elite, attack Islam, attracts the revolutionaries to it. It is not hard at all to cast away atheism as a tool, because Islam has clearly become a much more useful tool than atheism.

    Furthermore, Muslims in the Ottoman empire never saw Islam as a tool of oppression. During the Arab Revolt they used Islam to overthrow the Ottoman elite, because this elite had become oppressive, and also because this elite had started disavowing Islam, in order to better westernize. The fact that you cannot use Islam to justify a society consisting of nobles, clergy, and commoners, protects Islam from the criticism and revolutions that destroyed feudal Christian Europe.

    There is criticism in the West that Islam oppresses women. However, it is also clear that the West no longer really reproduces from generation to generation. Nobody is willing to take lessons about reproduction or the social status of women, from people who are clearly busy dying out like dinosaurs ...

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    Re: Atheism is a mental illness

    When one thinks about it carefully, atheism is a stage in coming to the truth - if it is due to the fact that the person got sick and tired of the irrationality and obvious non-truths in the blind ways of their ancestors.
    The issue that appears however is that those who become blindly religious atheists turn out to be of the most dangerous, selfish, violent, and anarchist character with zero restraint other than what their whims or the people more powerful than themselves dictate, these are often ready to engage in any crime or animal pursuit for the sake of maximum self gratification.

    We would do well to remember the difference between atheist leaders and common atheists, the common atheists are usually untethered from blind following of their ancestors and pride themselves in being open minded and logical and there is a chance of convincing them once the cobwebs are brushed aside.
    The tool being used to prevent them from thinking is an old tool, "the enemy hates you, we love you" tool.
    Them vs us with zero clear definition other than false idols such as "the west" or more refined and appealing terms such as "western civilization" "the national flag" "the king/queen" "freedom" "choice" despite there being no such rational defining character for any of the terms.

    Atheists also hit rock bottom quicker, wisen up quicker and seek a solution quicker.

    It is difficult to brush cobwebs aside for those who are tribally devoted to other non-Muslim ways of life due to their ability to set aside their logic and rationality when it comes to belief, which is not based on belief at all but obedience alone, they are usually stuck in the camp they happen to be in.

    Useful to bear in mind, but also the fact that they need to be shown that they are not free, that powerful social conditioning via media designed by psychological conditioning experts and that news stories being designed by veteran ex-advertising gurus are being used to make them conform to standards made up by crooks and liars, and that the need to be liked and accepted in society composed of people in similar conditions keeps them from being too "unorthodox".

    9/11 and the fear of the rolling of eyes despite the obvious facts is a good example of the situation. You'll notice that everyone knows, but most are afraid of being sidelined and dropped and therefore practice self censorship despite the projected illusion of freedom, rationality and scientific reasoning.

    Anyways, the common atheists are untethered from ancestral dictates that would otherwise make them close up into a cocoon, it's just a case of convincing them of the fallacy of the false illusions staring them in the face in plain sight and showing them the truth, stability and benefits of Islam, if implemented and practiced properly.

    A nice time since the usury based economy is about to spin out of control, then they'll wonder what the hell their leaders, economics professors and tv speculators were doing.

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