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    So, how many of you believe that we evolved from chimps?

    What are your reasons?



    Sr Ameeratul layls friend.
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    Re: A debate for all....

    I do not beleive we evolved from chimps. I came from Adam and Hawwaa.
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    Re: A debate for all....

    format_quote Originally Posted by Nawal89 View Post
    I do not beleive we evolved from chimps. I came from Adam and Hawwaa.
    yeah neither do i, agree with the sister above.
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    Re: A debate for all....



    For those of you who are non muslims and do believe in this chimp business. Why is it then that the chimps that are out there now...jumping from tree to tree have not become humans yet?


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    Re: A debate for all....



    Please remember to state ur reasons. JazakAllah.

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    Re: A debate for all....

    Sister it is a big misconception held that we come from chimps. The theory says nothing of such thing, instead it poses that both humans and chimps have a common ancestor that does not mean that humans have originated from chimps. So this idea of humans coming from chimps is false anyways and is refuted by the theory itself. No one in their right mind would claim such absurdity seeing as they would have no evidence or anything to ‘back’ them up.

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    Re: A debate for all....

    Greetings,

    So, how many of you believe that we evolved from chimps?
    No-one, as far as I can tell. So, apparently the debate is over.

    It's remarkable how many people on the forum seem to have that misconception. Hopefully Silver Pearl's comment will help to set that straight, but I've got to be honest, I reckon someone will probably say it again within a week or so.

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    Re: A debate for all....

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    No-one, as far as I can tell. So, apparently the debate is over.
    nope it is not over yet....because if humans and chimps have the same ancestors, it is sort of like evaluatimg from them isnt it?

    like for example, years and years later, i would obviously become an ancestor right? and im sure that the generations after me would not become some other species. for my genes are carried on and mutation could happen but that is quite unlikely....even if mutation does occur, i dont think it would make a great change as to make a human turn into a beast.

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    Re: A debate for all....

    Well i think we came from chimps/apes.

    Why haven't chimps evolved into humans... well because of there environment of course. Why do you think blacks have dark skin and whites have light skin... because of there evironment!
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    Re: A debate for all....

    format_quote Originally Posted by j4763 View Post
    Well i think we came from chimps/apes.

    Why haven't chimps evolved into humans... well because of there environment of course. Why do you think blacks have dark skin and whites have light skin... because of there evironment!
    so u mean dat environment can create a big change in generations to come? :confused:

    the matter of black and white skin is not because of the environment because you will find that african people that have lived in the UK for...say...1 generation, still have not managed to get fair skin. (im not tryin to b offensive)

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    Re: A debate for all....

    Oh no this change in skin colour hasn't occurred over a mere 100 years or so. Im talking about over 100,000 years.

    Why esle would we have different skin colours?
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    Re: A debate for all....

    Greetings,

    I reckon someone will probably say it again within a week or so.
    I was overestimating massively - it only took five minutes. Oh well.

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    Re: A debate for all....

    People found living in hot countries have darker skin to help them protect themselves from the sun, people living in colder countries have lighter skin and need less proctection from the sun. Same as if you take a load of chimps and place them in a flat area, over many (1000's) of years they will (i beleave) start to walk more up right.
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    Re: A debate for all....

    format_quote Originally Posted by j4763 View Post
    Oh no this change in skin colour hasn't occurred over a mere 100 years or so. Im talking about over 100,000 years.

    Why esle would we have different skin colours?
    hmmmm... doesnt science say that our skin colour is in our genes??

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    Re: A debate for all....

    As-salamu alaykum bro's and sisters.

    Although this is a good topic of debate, it's a bit improper. The debate of evolution really lies in complex biology, and if we're going to fairly discuss evolution, we have to discuss the complex biology.

    My own view regarding evolution is that it is possible in Islam (bar humans, since we are from Adam and Eve as stated in the Quran). So animals could have evolved from simpler animals etc... That said, there are major flaws in the theory of evolution that prevent it from being completely proven (in its current form), which is why scientists have such a hard time from creationists. As muslims, we don't have the full truth on the issue and are not really experts of it in any sense - thus, rather than trying to disprove it (which is beyond our capacity to do), we should rather make people aware of the flaws in the theory of creation. This then awakens people to the fact that evolution isn't a done and dusted deal where scientists have proven God doesn't exist, rather it is a theory that tries to explain how complex organisms exist on Earth, but in no way or form, cuts God out of the picture.

    Insha'Allah I'll post some threads where the flaws have been discussed soon.

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    Re: A debate for all....

    how come some chimps r r still chimps???
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    Re: A debate for all....

    hmmmm... doesnt science say that our skin colour is in our genes??
    Well sure they are but them genes had to develope from somewhere. Or did Adam and Eve had children of different colours?

    how come some chimps r r still chimps???
    Why haven't chimps evolved into humans... well because of there environment of course.

    (well these are my views anyway kay: )
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    Re: A debate for all....

    format_quote Originally Posted by j4763 View Post
    Well sure they are but them genes had to develope from somewhere. Or did Adam and Eve had children of different colours?
    mutation duh!!

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    Re: A debate for all....

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tagrid View Post
    mutation duh!!

    Well what is mutation if its not evolution duh!
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    Re: A debate for all....

    i said mutation but i didnt mean dat we cud actually turn 4m monkeys into humans thru mutation

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