In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful!
By (the Token of) Time (through the ages),
Verily Man is in loss,
Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy.”
Holy Quran- (Surah Asr 103:1-3) (Translation By Yusuf Ali)
Peace to Those Who Follow the Guidance!
Recently I joined a Christian Forum, to address some issues related to Islam- one member started a thread titled!
As there was no response from members Muslim or Christian presenting an accurate account of the concept of God in Islam, I felt I had to join in!
Inevitably questions followed,
Dialogue exchanges took place;
And it concluded with the following statements from two Christian members on that forum-
“I was a petty drug dealer, worked hard and partied hard. I was happy and could not really ask for anything more
However, some fifteen years ago, I had an encounter with the living God and that person specifically identified Himself to be Christ Jesus. No human being has ever been able to impact me the way Jesus has. I also understood clearly that it was God that I had encountered. Overnight, my whole life changed as a result of that encounter. My work colleagues noticed, my friends noticed that my outlook and attitude had changed. Overnight I had become a protagonist and a defender of the faith where yesterday I terrorized and attacked it.
I will not read into the Bible what the Koran says and neither will I read into the Koran what the Bible says. I am not interested in what the Koran says because it has nothing to do with the God I encountered in Jesus Christ!! I do not have an opinion about the Koran because I have not read it (This boldness is not to reflect that I am angry at all but just for emphasis).
Is my personal encounter, an inexplicalble experience, to be explained away? I am a witness to His majesty that i have seen with my own eyes and have heard with my own ears and not on just one occasion! It is continuing all the time as I suspect it is with most Christians. It is this encounter that is the reason that I believe today.
I believe that with respect to this discussion board that perhaps we should agree to disagree. i cxan live with that can you??”
Then a member called pastor David joined in (not sure if he is a real pastor or not), I got excited thinking may be he will have some answers to the questions I have raised-
But….
“Nice reply Stu. It's powerful and sacred to encounter the Lord isn't it?
God Bless,
Pastor David”
I want to know from Christian Members on this forum your thoughts on personal encounters with God!
short story then..
It was truly out of this world...the power of his love totaly engulfs your whole been..the love is so pure..like nothing on this earth..you become so radiant..you know you are so loved..there really aren't any words to decribe to beauty of it all. I pray to God all the time that all people will encounter what I have.
I didn't see I felt him...that may sound a strange thing to say...but I also knew who he was...His words came into my mind..like telepathy.
I was told not to fear that this life meant nothing at all. Not to care about money or material things. God would always provide for me...I was told many things...like how God is so very angry with man-kind..the reasons why etc...I can't even describe...how angry he is...but when his wrath does come we shall know! how blood and fighting and death will come to our streets in the west...because of their wickedness.
My encounter is much more detailed but that it the outline. My life has so completely changed..I no longer have my old life thanks to God....I was baptised 2 weeks ago.
short story then..
It was truly out of this world...the power of his love totaly engulfs your whole been..the love is so pure..like nothing on this earth..you become so radiant..you know you are so loved..there really aren't any words to decribe to beauty of it all. I pray to God all the time that all people will encounter what I have.
I didn't see I felt him...that may sound a strange thing to say...but I also knew who he was...His words came into my mind..like telepathy.
I was told not to fear that this life meant nothing at all. Not to care about money or material things. God would always provide for me...I was told many things...like how God is so very angry with man-kind..the reasons why etc...I can't even describe...how angry he is...but when his wrath does come we shall know! how blood and fighting and death will come to our streets in the west...because of their wickedness.
My encounter is much more detailed but that it the outline. My life has so completely changed..I no longer have my old life thanks to God....I was baptised 2 weeks ago.
how did you decide between islam and christianity!
i dont mean to b picky lol but your experience could easily have led to islam as well in my opinion so i wonder what made you choose christianity?
hope that is not an offensive question
Peace
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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how did you decide between islam and christianity!
i dont mean to b picky lol but your experience could easily have led to islam as well in my opinion so i wonder what made you choose christianity?
hope that is not an offensive question
Peace
I didn't go into that much detail of my encounter because I didn't want to offend people here either..
The reason I choose Chrisianity..because there really is no choice...firstly you know in your heart as soon as his presence came, I knew..the whole truth is comes so clearlyand also.. I was able to ask questions and I did.
Before my encounter I'd never owned a Bible only knew a few stories from school..I didn't know if they where true or not and I didn't know a thing about the Koran.
In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful!
Peace to those Who Follow the Guidance!
Hi Nicole,
Just wanted to thank you for sharing your experience with us, much appreciated!
However I believe that Brother PR4SE, has raised an excellent point, if you could be kind enough to respond to that-
If I said to you that I had a sacred and powerful encounter with God, and he told me to say to people who insist that he has begotten a son, or that he is part of a Trinity!
"Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And there is none like unto Him"
And we all agree that there is only one god, why is he sending out conflicting messages?
If I said to you that I had a sacred and powerful encounter with God, and he told me to say to people who insist that he has begotten a son, or that he is part of a Trinity!
"Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And there is none like unto Him"
And we all agree that there is only one god, why is he sending out conflicting messages?
Kind Regards
Qurban
hmm, she was told to not care about material objects and that life is nothing and god will provide (completely islamic beliefs)
then we have here that you were told that God said to believe in one GOD and he begets not nor is he begotten (no1 gives birth to him and he gives birth to no1) so that pretty much clears up that we have two completely islamic beliefs.
nicola i think we should discuss your experience a little more if you dont mind. However if you mind then that is up2u
may Allah reward our efforts
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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PR4Se- You have misunderstood me- from her encounter she chose christianity not islam!
i am questioning why?
Kind Regards
Qurban
bro thats what im tryin to get to the root of. What im saying is its quite clear that she has not thoroughly thought this through or researched no both religions. Therefore she cant be a 100% from where she had this divine sign come from.
Im trying to show so far everything she felt/realised is very islamic. So it may have benefitted her to look into islam more. However she may have felt that due to surroundings/environment she is suited more towards christianity but suitability is of no consequence here. It is the truth which is of the most importance!
hope you understand me now bro qurban, i had the same target as you.
Peace
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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Sorry I hope we are not hounding you with all these questions but I found your story quite interesting.
I just want to knwo something if you dont mind. Do you think you may have been directed towards Christianity because you only had experience with Christianity and the Bible and no experience with Islam and the Quran?
I mean do you not owe it to God to see what his message is?
Same applies for this question, you do not have to answer it and your beliefs are your own.
Peace.
God is never conflicting, it is us humans who are. I know this sounds insulting, but it is not meant to be...but mere man can read the bible but will never truly fully understand it unless he is lead by God to understand it.
and that can come by only asking Jesus to show you.
he tells us to ask and it shall be given..I can only tell you that if you ask Jesus will show you Gods whole truth.
I am not saying you must except him as your personal saviour and disown your own beliefs etc.
No just ask him for the truth and he will give it.
Sorry I hope we are not hounding you with all these questions but I found your story quite interesting.
I just want to knwo something if you dont mind. Do you think you may have been directed towards Christianity because you only had experience with Christianity and the Bible and no experience with Islam and the Quran?
I mean do you not owe it to God to see what his message is?
Same applies for this question, you do not have to answer it and your beliefs are your own.
Peace.
Your not hounding at all ...it really was like that guy said in the first post..of the thread..He didn't need to know the Bible or the Koran..and that's exactly how it was for me...I just knew who he was..and what his truth was.
I know..I will recieve another message I don't know when but I know God is leading me somewhere..for somet reason.I have to wait on him..I am changing and learning more each day. Praise God.
When you say...you do not have to answer it and your beliefs are your own.
I couldn't really say they where personaly my beliefs..etc..
because before these where not my beliefs...not in a million years or more..but now they are!
..but only because they where put there and not by me I know them to be true..hope that makes sense.
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