so true!
my guess: using concept from one religious tradition to describe other. term "Word of God" as the most simple example- sounds the same but for Muslims and Christian brings (not totally, but..) diffrent meaning
n.
The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned.
Meaning the Inability to view a point from the perception of someone outside you faith.
For example, when you tell someone something like your book has contradictions they immidietly say 'My Quran saysit doesnt have any' or 'My bible says it doesnt have any'
And hold to those views, am not saying they havent got their right but I m jus saying if someone is going to have interfaith dialogue then it would be cool if both sides could be objective
The path is long but I hope we meet,
After the grave and the Day, in paradise in bliss upon a reclined seat.
A traveler traveling - travelled from shirk to tawheed,
If I'm remembered for anything - let it be the Mercy I seek.
What do you find to be the biggest obstacles pertaining to Christian and Muslim dialogue?
Its impossible to have a decent dialogue since all arguments are based on holy books and blind faith. You must understand your faith befor you can speak for it.
Another problem is ignorance and lack of knowledge, leading to hate-filled assumptions.
That silly 'I don't like it so therefore its not true' argument.
And Islamophobia. A scholar called Abu Jafar al-Hanbali told me that when he was talking to two Christians, one of them fell on his hands and knees and begged the other one to not listen to Abu Jafar. The Christian then called the police, and they stopped Abu Jafar and his friend who was with him from ever setting foot in that Church again. So much for 'Christ welcomes all', a message commonly displayed on those notice boards outside Churches.
Perhaps it is because most people learn to fight and never learn to debate. Religion is much too important to fight over. Yet, few people who enter into a religious discussion have the means of expressing themselves without fighting.
Religious discussions often fall into emotionalism. Once emotions become part of a discussion, reason takes a back seat.
Quick rule of thumb, that many people overlook. Once you let anger direct a reply, you are no longer understood, nor can you understand what is being said. Many people feel anger when something says something contradictory to their religious beliefs, at that point the discussion is gone, it has become a fight.
since both muslilms and christians regard their religion as The One True Religion, what is there to discuss beyond "mine is better than yours"?
maybe i'm missing something. it wouldn't be the first time.
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
question authority
nothing wrong with regarding our belief as the best. but most believers put their beliefs more as an identity than a truth. identity is more as how we want people to recognize us and how to prove our existence. if someone sweat too much on my definition of identity, the truth would come second.
to you your religion and to me my religion
may we all learn on our chosen paths, and in all things, blessed be
the patients sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because the dentists stand ready to do violence on their behalf
Woodrow stated, "Perhaps it is because most people learn to fight and never learn to debate. Religion is much too important to fight over." Actually I think debate should be replaced with discuss. To debate is to argue and convince by logic. Although God is a God of order He isn't a logic point. Anything I can talk someone into someone else can talk them out of so there has to be a change in the the heart that comes with the recieving of faith.
Another difficulty is as a Christian I believe in salvation by grace, and forgive me if I am wrong but Islam is salvation by works.
As I have read some of the threads in this forum I have come to realize that there is the frustration (this is a personal view) that should you not come to accept the grace and sacrifice of our Lord that I won't have the opportunity to become better acquainted with you in eternity. I didn't say this to bring on a debate but to point out what my frustration can be. Many of your posts show the same desire to hope for the best for one another which I believe is where our common ground can start.
So, with that said May the Lord bless you and keep you as we enter into hopefully many profitable discussions.
Greetings,
I agree we need to increase dialogue to foster understanding between our communities, to eliminate misconceptions, ignorance and stereotypes and any ill feeling that comes as a result of this.
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Another difficulty is as a Christian I believe in salvation by grace, and forgive me if I am wrong but Islam is salvation by works.
Just a quick correction - this is not correct. Salvation in Islam is first and foremost by the mercy of God, and we earn God's mercy by BOTH faith in Him AND righteous deeds or works. They are most frequently mentioned together in the Qur'an.
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