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    allah tells us that there is no difference between a arab and a inidan a chinese and a black, a european and a berrber. but then to chooses arabic to deliver this message. isn't there a big contradiction here.

    its like for example a room of ten kids, who all speak different langauges, then the teacher comes in and only speaks one language, while they all have a test the next day at the same time, i mean is this fair? why do the other kids have to learn that language inorder to pass the test.

    the other thing is about prayer. why in a country inwhich no one speaks arabic are the prayers still being held in arabic. what is the point of that? if no one understand how they are comunicating with god then are they really communicating with him? i don't think so.

    the arabs say that arabic is the language of the hereafter, this is clearly unacceptable, becuase this type of opinion undermines other nations on a racial basis. if the religion of islam is universal, then why does arabic which is known to come from the arabs play such a over riding role in understanding the teaching of god. in other word, for example maths is a universal concept regardless of who you are or how you write your numbers, everyone can understand its ideas. but when it comes to something as serious as your salvation in the next world why is arabic so nessacary if its a universal religion?

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    Re: is islam an arabic religion

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Muhammad View Post


    The reason why there is repetition is because you are repeating the question. If people provide Q&A's, they still serve as answers. It is not the fault of others if you do not wish to read.

    By the way, nobody said you need arabic for your "salvation". Knowing arabic will most certainly further your understanding and knowledge, but Allaah does not burden anyone beyond their capacity. All that people have said is that prayers must be offered in Arabic, not that a person must become an Arabic grammarian.
    Yes, Allah has made it very easy for us! All you need to do is learn what is required of you such as a few surahs from the Quraan minimum. As well as a few other supplications which will be needed in salaah.

    I know many reverts who found that extremely hard, but they still managed to do it, they too asked the same question, and when they were given quotes from the Quraan that was enough for them as proof, they did not use this question as an excuse to by pass the requirements.

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    Re: is islam an arabic religion

    I found it easy to learn to recite arabic in my salah etc. but my mum found it difficult.
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    Maybe this will help...
    Source: http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-...tml#post470394


    [PIE]1. The mind is able to understand and process speech. "Do you (Muslims) expect that they (Jews) will be believers, while some of them used to listen to the revelation of Allah (Torah), then intentionally tamper with it, while they understood it and knew it was the Truth?" [2:75]. "We have revealed it an Arabic Qur'an, that you may understand." [12:2] The reason the Qur'an was revealed in Arabic was so that the minds of the people upon whom it was descended would be able to grasp it and appreciate its meanings.[/PIE]

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    Re: is islam an arabic religion

    From what I understand through out the ages Allah(swt) has sent Messengers to all the nations. It has been repeated many times. since the message was sent to all nations I would say that at various times it was given to Non-Arabic speaking people.

    With that said the only existing complete message of Allah(swt) is the Qur'an. Which was revealed in Arabic. I do not see that as a discrimination I see it as being the only form it which it has survived without change.

    No language can be completly translated into anyother language. so now that we have the Qur'an we need to either learn Arabic or be content to settle for translations that are not the word of Allah(swt).
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    Re: is islam an arabic religion

    Mesopotamia was the birth place of civilization, it would make sense that the languages of enlightenment would be Semitic of sort and that the messengers would speak those said language.... English as we know it didn't even exist in this form it is in today 600 years ago ... things get added, things get subtracted.... not so with Arabic, I can't speak for Hebrew or Aramaic as I don't know ... but the language of the Qur'an though extremely sophisticated and difficult at times, is still pretty much spoken today unaltered ... this makes it eas(ier) to and spread out to man kind ... there is no corner of the universe that this message can't reach or be transliterated into as close to the original as possible ... without lots being lost in between... Why does every debate turn contentious? I am almost afraid to browse the web or search a blog from the lack of civility amidst debaters...
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    Re: is islam an arabic religion

    Arabs did not creat the language of Arabic. Allah(SWT) did.

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    The Arabic language is purely unique. Other languages cant even support all of the words. Even non muslims appreciate the beauty of its calligraphy...i dunno why this thread went so nuts in the start! gave me a migraine...
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    Re: is islam an arabic religion

    Salaam all,

    Here is some thoughts I had about the subject, you amy wanna read on, and tell me what you think:


    • If Arabic was the language of islam, how come that a large number of muslims now are non-Arabic speaking muslims? How come the religion soak into their inner beings while they received it in any language other than Arabic?
    • Why see it as a shortcoming when it is an asset and a great blessing. I’m an Arabic speaking born muslim, and the idea that there are millions of muslims who strived to be muslims, know about islam, or try to learn about Qur’an in a language other than their own, makes it clear that my reckoning won’t be the same as theirs. For how come for a man who is given the fruit over a plate to be the same as the one who strives to pick it from the tree?
    • Who could claim that guidance is an intellectual effort? It is true that Allah has blessed us with brains to think and ponder, but no t even the most intelligent intellectuals were guided to the Straight Path except those whom ALLAH chose to be guided, Arabs and non-Arabs alike; or how about non-muslim Arabs?

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    sonz are you saying that arabic is better then all the other languages in the world? if so then you are indirectly saying that the arabs are better then all the other human races.
    no i dont think anyone said anything like that!
    they're talking about arabic as a language not the arabs.......

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    well, i will stick my kafir nose in here.
    there is something wonderful about the idea that for well over 1000 years people have been reciting the same words in the same language and now muslims all over the world are saying the same words 5 times a day.
    i dunno - i think that's cool in itself.
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    Re: is islam an arabic religion

    I just came to the conclusion this is a topic and a subtopic. Some of us have placed the horse in front of the cart and a sub topicis being debated before is being debated before the Topic has even been mentioned:


    WHY WAS THE QUR'AN REVEALED IN ONE LANGUAGE?
    1.WHY WAS ARABIC CHOSEN?
    a. is this a hardship for people wanting to learn about Islam?

    My simple opinions:

    It makes since that once people understood the word of Allah(swt), it would be best to keep it just in that one language as trying to interpret back or forth among languages will result in error.

    I don't think it is so much that Arabic was chosen as it is Arabic remained unchanged.

    It is far from a hardship to learn the small amount of Arabic required to understand the Qur'an. Even less to just feel and hear the beauty.
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    sert - you keep saying that you need Arabic for 'salvation'. I think you may have misunderstood there. The thing we need for salvation is good deeds and a good heart. Arabic is our 'national language' if you like, so even though there are different languages due to different races being muslim, our national langauge is Arabic.

    You can always make dua in English or whatever other languages you speak. It is only a matter of salah, where we speak in the lanagueg revealed in the Quran.
    Its no biggie mate. We can be multilingual eh?

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    I heard a Shiekh say that if ur a non-arab and you make the effort to learn arabic so that you can recite the Quran, than Allah (swt) will reward you more than an arab who recites the Quran since it not ur language.

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    And with all due respect Bro. Sert, I think if you had strong iman you would put this issue behind you its really not that hard to understand, the post with Dr. Zakir Naiks explanation answers your question completely. Why is the American Constitution written in English? Theres many people in the US who speak Spanish... You get my point?
    Islam never gave superiority to Arabs over non- arabs bro, and this well documented. Im an Arab and I attend a mosque where the 2 Imams are Pakistani and African, I pray behind these imams (may Allah be pleased with them) and take the vast majority of my knowledge and fiqh from them, and this is the beauty of Islam.

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    Sert, i just wanted to make a few points:

    1. If the Quran was revealed in a 'language' like maths, how on earth would we be able to understand it?? And btw, i dont know about you, but i wasnt born doing calculus, i had to learn it, just like some people would have to learn arabic to read that Quran in its original version. Furthermore, you cant learn maths without learning a different language first. At least arabic can be leanred from a very young age and doesnt require a person to be talented (most people are terrible at maths). In short- no matter what language the Quran were revealed in, we would still have to learn that language to understand it.

    2. Just because the Quran is in arabic, that in no way makes arabs superior to any other race, since when was it that only arabs speak arabic?? I would be counted as arab by many, and i dont understand arabic much at all, and yet i know many people who are not arab and speak the language very fluently mashaallah. You dont have to be an arab to learn or speak arabic. Its not a race- its a language.
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    Re: is islam an arabic religion

    i don't know why you guys spend 9 pages explaining why Allah swt chose arabic as the language of Islam to a person who's allready been bombarded many times with the same kind of explainations on a somali forum

    http://www.somalilife.com/postlite34193-.html

    he's not here for answers only here to stirr up controversy with borderline blasphemy comments
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    lol...he did that in the somali forum too?


    lol...
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    Re: is islam an arabic religion

    This thread can be summarised as follows:

    The Qur'an is written in Arabic.

    Some Muslims, if not most have no problem in learning sufficient Qur'anic Arabic to understand it.

    Some people have difficulting in understanding, but have the wisdom to seek the advice of those who have a better understanding than they do.

    Some people are not happy with the Qur'an being written in Arabic.

    Some people have no problems.

    This obviously has strayed from a debate and has become a series of cycler comments.

    There is no purpose to be served by any further debate.


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