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so? did i say arabs do this? i said it allows for it to happen! not it does happen and i hate arabs!! u misunderstood me and so ur still lieing!
ok I misunderstood....

I didn't lie.....accusing people is bad, I'm never doing that again....
 
sonz @ so as i said before, look at how your writing about arabic, ur making it better then all the other languages of the world. that is just plain wrong! no language has the right to say its better then any other language!!
 
chk this

Q: Many of us speak little Arabic. Is it permissible to use one's mother tongue in saying our supplication during various stages of prayer? A friend of mine says that all supplications during prayer must be in Arabic. I feel that the Prophet and his companions used Arabic because it was their mother tongue. Please comment. If a person does not speak Arabic at all, but has learned the meaning of the Qur'an in his language, can he use such translation in his prayer?

A : All scholars agree that anyone who offers prayers must read the Al-Fatihah and the Qur'an in Arabic. It is not possible to use translation, as I have explained on several occasions. If a person does not know the Fatihah, but knows another passage of the Qur'an, he is required to say in each rak'ah a passage of similar length to the Fatihah. If he does not know any part of the Qur'an in Arabic, he must learn. If he fears that he would miss his prayers before he could learn, he should glorify Allah, using the well known formula:
Subhan Allah, Alhamdulillah, La ilaha illa Allah, Allahu Akbar, la hawla wala qowwata illa billah. If a person cannot learn all these five phrases, he learns what he can of them and repeats them. This is the case of a
man who could not learn any verse of the Qur'an; the Prophet taught him a few simple phrases in Arabic to repeat them in his prayers. He did not tell him to glorify Allah in silence. Therefore, when you offer your prayer, you should say the Qur'an in Arabic and also any glorification or supplication. When you have finished your prayers, you can say any supplication in your language. Supplication in prayer can concentrate on what you have learned to say in Arabic. If you learn one sentence, to appeal to Allah to admit you into heaven and spare you any punishment in the hereafter, that is more than sufficient. You can include everything else in your supplication after prayer in your language. It is not true that the Prophet and his companions used Arabic because it was their mother tongue. The Prophet used Arabic in prayer because he had to read the Qur'an in
prayer and the Qur'an, Allah's words, is in Arabic. Any translation of it is not the Qur'an, but an explanation of its meaning. That translator may have to change the order of the original text in order to fit his text with the grammar into which he is translating. No one can change the order of the Qur'anic words. Had Allah wanted the Prophet to offer his prayers in any other language, He would have told him so and would have made it
easy for him to learn that language. But Allah wants us to use His Book in our prayer. As it is well known to everyone, His Book has been revealed in Arabic.

http://www.guidedones.com/metapage/salat/Prayer_arabic.htm


 
do u even know what takfir is??

i said "i think" cuz this is the internet and many nonmuslims who joined this forum have said that they are muslims tryin to stir fitnah.

so ive every rite to question.

masalama


well i think your a nonmuslim too then! is that really allowed? i don't think so, thinking bad of your brother is not allowed!
 
Question

How "sacred" or "important" is Arabic language in Islam?

* Is there anything in Quran or Sunnah that directly reflects Arabic as being a language superior to rest?
* How important is it for Muslims to learn/understand Arabic in the light of Quran & Sunnah?

Response

Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh) seem to be devoid of any explicit mention of Arabic being a language superior to the rest. Neither do they directly emphasize the learning of the language. Therefore it seems that this is one of the areas which have been left to our intellect and the effort that each individual can put in.

Amongst the verses relevant to the topic at hand, a few are narrated below:
"We have sent it down as an Arabic Quran, in order that you may learn wisdom." (Yousuf 12:2)

"And certainly We have set forth to men in this Quran similitudes of every sort that they may reflect. An Arabic Quran without any crookedness, that they may guard (against evil)." (Az-Zumar 39:27-28)

It needs to be appreciated that Quran was revealed in the language of its addressees so they were able to comprehend its message easily. The purpose of Quran was never meant to be recitation only, rather understanding of the Book of God and His message to us. This is evident from the verses above, and has also been mentioned at other places in the Quran.

As a result, in today's world it seems that reading and understanding Quran is a must which may be satisfied by reading translations in our own languages so we are able to understand it. That was the main purpose of Quran being revealed in Arabic when it addressed the Arabs.

Second to that, it would be highly desirable to know the meaning of Quranic verses since that will bring significant value to one's daily prayers. This can be achieved gradually over time.

http://www.omeriqbal.com/arabic.html
 
:uhwhat

well...err. What Allah decrees is always right. A part of the sunnah you may question as sometimes it may be fabricated. But plain, burhaan such as the Quraan you question/deny? I don't know much about Islam, there is much to be learnt, I have tried my best to put forward my point, it is up to you to take heed.
 
chk this

Q: Many of us speak little Arabic. Is it permissible to use one's mother tongue in saying our supplication during various stages of prayer? A friend of mine says that all supplications during prayer must be in Arabic. I feel that the Prophet and his companions used Arabic because it was their mother tongue. Please comment. If a person does not speak Arabic at all, but has learned the meaning of the Qur'an in his language, can he use such translation in his prayer?

A : All scholars agree that anyone who offers prayers must read the Al-Fatihah and the Qur'an in Arabic. It is not possible to use translation, as I have explained on several occasions. If a person does not know the Fatihah, but knows another passage of the Qur'an, he is required to say in each rak'ah a passage of similar length to the Fatihah. If he does not know any part of the Qur'an in Arabic, he must learn. If he fears that he would miss his prayers before he could learn, he should glorify Allah, using the well known formula:
Subhan Allah, Alhamdulillah, La ilaha illa Allah, Allahu Akbar, la hawla wala qowwata illa billah. If a person cannot learn all these five phrases, he learns what he can of them and repeats them. This is the case of a
man who could not learn any verse of the Qur'an; the Prophet taught him a few simple phrases in Arabic to repeat them in his prayers. He did not tell him to glorify Allah in silence. Therefore, when you offer your prayer, you should say the Qur'an in Arabic and also any glorification or supplication. When you have finished your prayers, you can say any supplication in your language. Supplication in prayer can concentrate on what you have learned to say in Arabic. If you learn one sentence, to appeal to Allah to admit you into heaven and spare you any punishment in the hereafter, that is more than sufficient. You can include everything else in your supplication after prayer in your language. It is not true that the Prophet and his companions used Arabic because it was their mother tongue. The Prophet used Arabic in prayer because he had to read the Qur'an in
prayer and the Qur'an, Allah's words, is in Arabic. Any translation of it is not the Qur'an, but an explanation of its meaning. That translator may have to change the order of the original text in order to fit his text with the grammar into which he is translating. No one can change the order of the Qur'anic words. Had Allah wanted the Prophet to offer his prayers in any other language, He would have told him so and would have made it
easy for him to learn that language. But Allah wants us to use His Book in our prayer. As it is well known to everyone, His Book has been revealed in Arabic.

http://www.guidedones.com/metapage/salat/Prayer_arabic.htm


Okay leave everything else out....trust this atleast.
 
this one talks about the socalled "universal language"

The language of the Quran.

The Quran came down in the Arabic language. Allah says;

"Thus We have revealed it, a decisive utterance in Arabic."
{ Surat Ar-Ra'd (Chapter 13), Verse 37 }

To provide the secret of being revealed in the Arabic language, we must first say; the human race does not possess a single universal language that they share as a medium of understanding and comprehending one another. Therefore, it is completely natural that the Quran must be one of these languages by which the human beings communicate. Also, it is only befitting that the Quran be revealed in the language of the prophet that receives it, as well as the language of those being immediately addressed by it. Allah says;

"And we have not sent a messenger except with the tongue of his people so that he may make things clear to them."
{ Surat Ibraheem (Chapter 14), Verse 4 }

Having said that, the reasons for the Quran being revealed in Arabic are that;

- The Arabic language is of oldest of languages known to humankind.
- The Arabic language has established principles and systematic rules that have been unchanged for thousands of years.
- The Arabic language is the most comprehensive of languages, with the most precise and effective method of conveyance through its ocean of vocabulary, and for this reason you see that a page may be required to translate two lines of Arabic.


For this reason, the Quran contains a secret that is known by all those who have read it; a secret that touches the soul and takes it into the world of parables and the horizons of spirituality. To fall upon this wonder, the individual is not asked except to sever him/herself from the materialistic attachments and the previously acquired notions and to simply read, or even hear the Quran. Upon doing so with an interested unbiased approach, he/she will instantaneously be affected by its language and elegance. Allahsays;

"And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection (Oh Muhammad), then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah"
{ Surat At-Tawbah (Chapter 9), Verse 6 }

All that is asked is that you hear the words of Allaah, while pondering, especially when Allahhas facilitated its recitation. Allah says;

"And We have made it easy on your tongue"
{ Surat Maryam (Chapter 19), Verse 97}

Sixthly: The Quran is Arabic in Language, Universal in Message.

The Quran did not come down for the Arabs alone, but rather for all of humankind. Allahsays;

"The month of Ramadan wherein the Quran was sent down as guidance for (all) the people."
{ Surat Al-Baqarah (Chapter 2), Verse 185 }

So the Quran was sent down for all the people, and Allahchose the Arabs to carry the message in that age for a great wisdom. Allahsays;

Allah knows best where to place his message
{ Surat Al-An'aam (Chapter 7), Verse 124 }

Thus there is no doubt that this divine decision is of tremendous wisdom, and here is parts of it;

Firstly, this place has in it the first house institutionalized for all of humankind alike to turn to in its testimony to the oneness of the True God; The house that Abraham, the father of the prophets, built. Therefore it is most appropriate that the seal of revelation be sent to that very land.

Secondly, the Arabs at that time were free peoples, not controlled by any of the major empires, nor did they fall under the auspices of any dominating government that would have combated the spread of the 'new' way of life.
Thirdly, they were the best of nations gifted with the ability of precision memorization due to their linguistic depths and exposure to poetry. It was so to such an extent that it was not a feat for many of them to hear pages of poetry a single time and come away with it memorized to the letter and never forgets it.

Fourthly, the attributes of the Arabs and customs contained those which were very virtuous, such as; honesty, trustworthiness, fulfillment of promises, and sincerity. This was a result of not being poisoned by the two-faced dishonest 'diplomacy' that crowded civilizations such as those of Rome and Persia were forced to adopt due to their offensive and obscene lifestyles.
Last but not least, the choice to send the Quran amongst the Arabs is for it to be decisive indisputable evidence that it is the words of Allaah! It became in itself as evidence, when the Quran launched from a small, undeveloped, backwards nation a nation that lead the world from East to West for a period that spanned over one thousand years. Who in their right mind would ever for a moment consider it possible for uneducated Bedouin herders of sheep and camels to present the world with a book that would cause them to lead the world for over a millennia?
 
sonz i read all your posts, its completely what i feared, the first post talks about how you MUST PRAY IN ARABIC!! don't explain why

the second talks about LEARN ARABIC ITS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!! don't explain why arabic

and the third post is just pure RACISM? ARABS ARE BETTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE type of topic,

im sick of this, arabs are not better then everyone else, and i don't think the arabic language is better then any other language!
 
sert, if you really believe that Allaah Almighty revealed the Qur'an - then it's your duty to accept it, no matter what language it's revealed in.

And if you feel that the arabs are better, then just refer back to the Qur'an again, when Allaah Almighty says:


O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). (Qur'an Surah Hujraat 49:13)



Peace.
 
Sert, do you accept that Allah revealed the Quran to prophet Muhammad SAW and therby acknowledge that Islam is the correct path? If so, then it follows that you must also accept that Allah through Muhammad SAW taught us to pray in Arabic. Since no matter how hard we try, we can never capture the true meaning of the Quran in a tongue other than Arabic, any such prayer would be invalid (unless one is still learning).

If you think prayer is from the heart and should not be read in Arabic, then you have a more fundamental problem in emaan - as we have been ordered by Allah to use that language in prayer.

are u serious bro? how else was he ment to speak? he spoke in arabic!! its not like he was going to use chinese was he!
 
sonz i read all your posts, its completely what i feared, the first post talks about how you MUST PRAY IN ARABIC!! don't explain why

the second talks about LEARN ARABIC ITS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!! don't explain why arabic

and the third post is just pure RACISM? ARABS ARE BETTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE type of topic,

im sick of this, arabs are not better then everyone else, and i don't think the arabic language is better then any other language!

sert im a nonarab so stop seeing things that arent there. its only u who has a problem with arabs or something that u completly shut off everything we tell u. no one is SAYING that arabs are better than everyone. allah says

the best among you in the sight of GOD is the most righteous
 
We should, as muslims, try to follow the prophet[saw] down to how he walked....I think following him in speech and culture is much more important than how he walked.
 
this one talks about the socalled "universal language"

The language of the Quran.

The Quran came down in the Arabic language. Allah says;

"Thus We have revealed it, a decisive utterance in Arabic."
{ Surat Ar-Ra'd (Chapter 13), Verse 37 }

To provide the secret of being revealed in the Arabic language, we must first say; the human race does not possess a single universal language that they share as a medium of understanding and comprehending one another. Therefore, it is completely natural that the Quran must be one of these languages by which the human beings communicate. Also, it is only befitting that the Quran be revealed in the language of the prophet that receives it, as well as the language of those being immediately addressed by it. Allah says;

"And we have not sent a messenger except with the tongue of his people so that he may make things clear to them."
{ Surat Ibraheem (Chapter 14), Verse 4 }

Having said that, the reasons for the Quran being revealed in Arabic are that;

- The Arabic language is of oldest of languages known to humankind.
- The Arabic language has established principles and systematic rules that have been unchanged for thousands of years.
- The Arabic language is the most comprehensive of languages, with the most precise and effective method of conveyance through its ocean of vocabulary, and for this reason you see that a page may be required to translate two lines of Arabic.


For this reason, the Quran contains a secret that is known by all those who have read it; a secret that touches the soul and takes it into the world of parables and the horizons of spirituality. To fall upon this wonder, the individual is not asked except to sever him/herself from the materialistic attachments and the previously acquired notions and to simply read, or even hear the Quran. Upon doing so with an interested unbiased approach, he/she will instantaneously be affected by its language and elegance. Allahsays;

"And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection (Oh Muhammad), then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah"
{ Surat At-Tawbah (Chapter 9), Verse 6 }

All that is asked is that you hear the words of Allaah, while pondering, especially when Allahhas facilitated its recitation. Allah says;

"And We have made it easy on your tongue"
{ Surat Maryam (Chapter 19), Verse 97}

Sixthly: The Quran is Arabic in Language, Universal in Message.

The Quran did not come down for the Arabs alone, but rather for all of humankind. Allahsays;

"The month of Ramadan wherein the Quran was sent down as guidance for (all) the people."
{ Surat Al-Baqarah (Chapter 2), Verse 185 }

So the Quran was sent down for all the people, and Allahchose the Arabs to carry the message in that age for a great wisdom. Allahsays;

Allah knows best where to place his message
{ Surat Al-An'aam (Chapter 7), Verse 124 }

Thus there is no doubt that this divine decision is of tremendous wisdom, and here is parts of it;

Firstly, this place has in it the first house institutionalized for all of humankind alike to turn to in its testimony to the oneness of the True God; The house that Abraham, the father of the prophets, built. Therefore it is most appropriate that the seal of revelation be sent to that very land.

Secondly, the Arabs at that time were free peoples, not controlled by any of the major empires, nor did they fall under the auspices of any dominating government that would have combated the spread of the 'new' way of life.
Thirdly, they were the best of nations gifted with the ability of precision memorization due to their linguistic depths and exposure to poetry. It was so to such an extent that it was not a feat for many of them to hear pages of poetry a single time and come away with it memorized to the letter and never forgets it.

Fourthly, the attributes of the Arabs and customs contained those which were very virtuous, such as; honesty, trustworthiness, fulfillment of promises, and sincerity. This was a result of not being poisoned by the two-faced dishonest 'diplomacy' that crowded civilizations such as those of Rome and Persia were forced to adopt due to their offensive and obscene lifestyles.
Last but not least, the choice to send the Quran amongst the Arabs is for it to be decisive indisputable evidence that it is the words of Allaah! It became in itself as evidence, when the Quran launched from a small, undeveloped, backwards nation a nation that lead the world from East to West for a period that spanned over one thousand years. Who in their right mind would ever for a moment consider it possible for uneducated Bedouin herders of sheep and camels to present the world with a book that would cause them to lead the world for over a millennia?


i second that plus did yu see the map of the world i mean Mecca is like the centre of the world , hummmm... maybe to make it equal to all mankind from west to east that they should a l face the centre of the world like we do when we pray all of us come together to the centre mashaAllah! :offended:

come on man at least give it a thought as a muslim
 
sert, if you really believe that Allaah Almighty revealed the Qur'an - then it's your duty to accept it, no matter what language it's revealed in.

And if you feel that the arabs are better, then just refer back to the Qur'an again, when Allaah Almighty says:


O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). (Qur'an Surah Hujraat 49:13)




Peace.


if thats true, then how come the chinese have to pray in arabic for their salvation, surely making arabic the language of the quran makes it obvious that arabs are better then the rest of the human race!
 
are u serious bro? how else was he ment to speak? he spoke in arabic!! its not like he was going to use chinese was he!
read this

It is not true that the Prophet and his companions used Arabic because it was their mother tongue. The Prophet used Arabic in prayer because he had to read the Qur'an in prayer and the Qur'an, Allah's words, is in Arabic.
http://www.guidedones.com/metapage/salat/Prayer_arabic.htm
 
We should, as muslims, try to follow the prophet[saw] down to how he walked....I think following him in speech and culture is much more important than how he walked.


NOW THAT IS THE KIND OF strange talk im worried about!! your saying we have to follow arabic culture? are u ok bro? arabic culture? :uuh: what on earth has that got to do with islam? so what if the prophet was an arab? we was a human first! and that is what we must learn from, not how arab he was!!!
 
read this

It is not true that the Prophet and his companions used Arabic because it was their mother tongue. The Prophet used Arabic in prayer because he had to read the Qur'an in prayer and the Qur'an, Allah's words, is in Arabic.
http://www.guidedones.com/metapage/salat/Prayer_arabic.htm

you know how ridiculous that sounds? HE WAS the person the quran was revealed to, was he going to get a chinese quran? that sentance doesn't make any sense im sorry.
 
if thats true, then how come the chinese have to pray in arabic for their salvation, surely making arabic the language of the quran makes it obvious that arabs are better then the rest of the human race!


No, it means that the qur'an was revealed in arabic, without any mistakes - in it's original form.


Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: (Qur'an 18:1)


Whereas every translation has mistakes in. This is why the Qur'an is recited in arabic, because that is it's original form - unlike the translations which will always have errors in.

So we recite it the way it was revealed because that is error-free insha'Allaah.


Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.
 
i second that plus did yu see the map of the world i mean Mecca is like the centre of the world , hummmm... maybe to make it equal to all mankind from west to east that they should a l face the centre of the world like we do when we pray all of us come together to the centre mashaAllah! :offended:

come on man at least give it a thought as a muslim

the world is a sphere! it can't have a center!
 
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