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    What exactly is the Muslim definition of an infidel?



    Matthew 12:30
    He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters.
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    Re: Infidels

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Ayesha Rana View Post
    Who exactly are the Sabiens?



    [Tafsir Al-Qur'an] What is a Sabian?

    http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-...hlight=sabians
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    Re: Infidels

    I think it has been widely shown that Muslims do not use the word infidel, and that the closest Arabic equivalent is Kafr. Kafr is a word used to describe not those who disbelieve in Islam, but rather those who realize in their minds and/or hearts that Islam is the truth but reject it anyways. That is the only true definition of the word Kafr. In fact, that's where we get the English word "cover" -from Kafr, because Kafr's "cover" the truth. Regarding other types of disbelievers, there are varying opinions on this matter. The opinion I follow is that of Imam Ghazali who placed 2 out of 3 categories of disbeliever in paradise, and placed only the Kafr category of disbeliever in the hellfire.
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    Re: Infidels

    format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor View Post
    Well it would be nice if you used the english language better . No offence though. I'm sure you don't write like that at school?
    lol good ol Avar...jus what we need...=P
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    format_quote Originally Posted by MuslimCONVERT View Post
    I think it has been widely shown that Muslims do not use the word infidel, and that the closest Arabic equivalent is Kafr. Kafr is a word used to describe not those who disbelieve in Islam, but rather those who realize in their minds and/or hearts that Islam is the truth but reject it anyways. That is the only true definition of the word Kafr. In fact, that's where we get the English word "cover" -from Kafr, because Kafr's "cover" the truth. Regarding other types of disbelievers, there are varying opinions on this matter. The opinion I follow is that of Imam Ghazali who placed 2 out of 3 categories of disbeliever in paradise, and placed only the Kafr category of disbeliever in the hellfire.
    Thats right. Ive actually heard something similar to this by Yusuf Estes.
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    Re: Infidels

    are sabeans the same as madeans? the ones who stopped believing in mesangers after (john the baptist) prophet Ya7ya 3lyhi aslaam? some of them are still found today in parts of Iraq????
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    Re: Infidels

    format_quote Originally Posted by Goku View Post
    Zoroastrians are people of the book?"
    It's a suggestion by Sheikh Yusuf Al Qardhawi in "Al Halal wal Haram fil ISlam"
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    Re: Infidels

    format_quote Originally Posted by MuslimCONVERT View Post
    I think it has been widely shown that Muslims do not use the word infidel, and that the closest Arabic equivalent is Kafr. Kafr is a word used to describe not those who disbelieve in Islam, but rather those who realize in their minds and/or hearts that Islam is the truth but reject it anyways. That is the only true definition of the word Kafr.
    So there are no kaffirs? Why would anyone deny something they believe to be true? What motive do they have?
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    Re: Infidels

    Why would anyone deny something they believe to be true? What motive do they have?

    Some people do it because they aren't prepared to submit themselves to Allaah Almighty. An example of this is Abu Jahl, he knew that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the Messenger of Allaah, but he rejected him due to the fact that he was a prophet, and no-one from the family of Abu Jahl was a prophet. It was a matter of pride for him.

    The same can be said about people who know that islam is the truth - but they don't want to keep up with the duties of islaam i.e. salaah (the 5 daily prayers) etc. They feel their too important to bow down to anyone, even if that mean's bowing to their Creator - Allaah Almighty. The same can be said about iblees (satan) who never bowed when Allaah commanded him to, why did he do it? Out of arrogance and pride.



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    Re: Infidels

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tayyaba View Post
    lol good ol Avar...jus what we need...=P
    lol - I didn't mean to offend but writing like that is very confusing. On mobiles or msn it's fine ( i do it myself) but it gets difficult to read on here!
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