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    "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    The title of an article that appeared in the Christian Awake magazine. Read it, they admit to errors in the Bible, but in the conclusion they'll maintain that it is still the authentic word of God. This is what has become Christian logic. The 1957 article has been preserved here for the record of Dawah.



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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

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    i asked before and ill ask again- do u have a proofe for ur saying: the quran is wrong??
    The hebrew signature is very clear.

    It shows the Jewish belief of Moses being the highest prophet and the gospel and koran to be false under Jewish belief.

    I thought I made it very clear what the Jewish belief on the matter is. My reasons for believeing the Quran are wrong is because Mohommod did not fufil the prophecys as a prophet. On the other hand, I do not critisize the book and recongnize that it means a lot to people.

    Muslims like the creater of this post believe it is okay to make up lies about the Tanakh.

    My sig is clear but if you are uncomfortable with me posting Jewish beliefs on Moses being the greatest prophet and the gospel and quran being false... then I will delete it since it is a Muslim forum, and Jewish beliefs in Hebrew have no place when they contradict Islam here.

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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    Hazrat Musa(as) or Moses(pbuh) is one of the greatest prophets. They all were great.
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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    Somone gets offended when I state the Jewish Beliefs on Moshe being the greatest prophet ever, and the Gospel and Koran being false. Why get offended? It's not like I am revealing new information, and it is not like everyother post here doesn't slam my holy scriptures.

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    If you are a truly tolerant person, you will not fall to the same level. I have felt offended by a lot of people, have u seen me bash anyone's faith? I dont think I have. But if I did, then i apologize.
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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    format_quote Originally Posted by therebbe View Post
    The hebrew signature is very clear.

    It shows the Jewish belief of Moses being the highest prophet and the gospel and koran to be false under Jewish belief.

    I thought I made it very clear what the Jewish belief on the matter is. My reasons for believeing the Quran are wrong is because Mohommod did not fufil the prophecys as a prophet. On the other hand, I do not critisize the book and recongnize that it means a lot to people.
    Bring a Book like it then! If you cannot, than atleast one chapter! You claim it is wrong and false but you can never produce one like it. The challange is out there. Go, if you believe it is false, produce a Book like it, if you cannot, and you never will, then know that it is indeed the Word of God that your are denying. You will come to know soon enough.
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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    Bring a Book like it then! If you cannot, than atleast one chapter! You claim it is wrong and false but you can never produce one like it. The challange is out there.
    It is all opinion. You say make a book like the Quran, but even if it is better, you will have rejected the book as worse before you even read a single word.

    I can make the same challenge for the Torah, and then never recongnize that a book can be better.

    The challenge I am afraid is a joke.

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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    format_quote Originally Posted by therebbe View Post
    It is all opinion. You say make a book like the Quran, but even if it is better, you will have rejected the book as worse before you even read a single word.

    I can make the same challenge for the Torah, and then never recongnize that a book can be better.

    The challenge I am afraid is a joke.
    Actually I'm sure he would read it. A challenge like that is not a joke. Its only a joke when someone cant do it. Not that im referring to u.
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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    If one thing you should have picked up from around here...... is that Muslims believe/respect and honor all of God's messengers........... a simple way to find out ... is with all the crap, toons, plays, books maligning prophet Mohammed (PBUH) none of us do the same for the characters of any of those messengers ... ever wonder why? ever seen a book by a Muslim cursing Jesus or Moses? I reckon not!
    God's scriptures are also from God and we respect them....... again it says so right in the second chapter..... along with the rewriting woe to those who rewrote the scriptures with their own hands ..... to omit or twist the truth....... lots gets lost in the translation..... intended or not!
    Whether he is posting or not posting them, we know what the errors are anyway!
    when in the Quran God asks Zachria to take seriously the book... we know he it talking about the Torah...... don't be surprised if most of us have read it! actually God also asks the Jews in the Quran to read the Torah instead of the other Rabbi written books....... and says the Jews and Christians would be better off following the scriptures than their whims...
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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tayyaba View Post
    Actually I'm sure he would read it. A challenge like that is not a joke. Its only a joke when someone cant do it. Not that im referring to u.
    Imagine if someone presented a book and said it was better than the Quran? How do you judge this? Use of Arabic? Better Laws? Better paragraph structure?

    It can only be judged based on belief, and I am afraid that Muslims have such a high belief in the Quran, that a book that could very well be better will be denied because belief can often blind someone.

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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    [QUOTE=therebbe;517679]Imagine if someone presented a book and said it was better than the Quran? How do you judge this? Use of Arabic? Better Laws? Better paragraph structure?

    QUOTE]

    The challenge is in the Quran as well

    and by the way just bring the book that is better than Quran
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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    and by the way just bring the book that is better than Quran
    And who will be the judge of if it is better? A Muslim who believes that the Quran is the word of G-d and will have an obvious bias?

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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    My point was if someone really wanted to see, they would read it. I would too. Yes we do trust that the Qur'an is the best book. Its not blind faith we follow, its faith based with proofs. A book written by a human will never be flawless.
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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    The hebrew signature is very clear.
    not when u dont understand hebrew

    It shows the Jewish belief of Moses being the highest prophet and the gospel and koran to be false under Jewish belief.

    I thought I made it very clear what the Jewish belief on the matter is. My reasons for believeing the Quran are wrong is because Mohommod did not fufil the prophecys as a prophet. On the other hand, I do not critisize the book and recongnize that it means a lot to people.

    Muslims like the creater of this post believe it is okay to make up lies about the Tanakh.

    My sig is clear but if you are uncomfortable with me posting Jewish beliefs on Moses being the greatest prophet and the gospel and quran being false... then I will delete it since it is a Muslim forum, and Jewish beliefs in Hebrew have no place when they contradict Islam here.
    this is ur belief ok?? but whey slander someone's holy book intentionely knowing they dont understand the langauge u posted ur belief in. how doi u expect us to defend our belief when we dont understand what u r saying
    quran being false...
    prove it!!!!! im sure the admins wont do anything to stop u as long as u dont attack islam (and that means saying things that arent correct but comes from someome who watches too much CNN)

    It can only be judged based on belief, and I am afraid that Muslims have such a high belief in the Quran, that a book that could very well be better will be denied because belief can often blind someone.
    and i admit we do have a hihg belief in the quran coz THERE IS NO BETTER BOOK. show me a better book ot evidence that my belief is wrong but dont backbite me behind my back. thats not civilized u know

    My point was if someone really wanted to see, they would read it. I would too. Yes we do trust that the Qur'an is the best book. Its not blind faith we follow, its faith based with proofs. A book written by a human will never be flawless.
    exactly!

    just bring the book that is better than Quran
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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    format_quote Originally Posted by therebbe View Post
    Imagine if someone presented a book and said it was better than the Quran? How do you judge this? Use of Arabic? Better Laws? Better paragraph structure?
    peace

    i know that you were not addressing me but to answer your question, its obvious that the Quran is the only book that was ever made that is flawless and has not one contradiction. The Quran is the only one of the holy scriptures that was sent by God that still today is exactly the same as it was when it was sent down.
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    and we challenge u to prove otherwise.


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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    Here let me spell it out to you what 'bringing a book like the Quran' entails. If it is brought, it will not be rejected because of "belief" as you claim as long as it meets the following because the Quran meets all the criteria mentioned below:
    -No contradictions
    -Memorized by millions of people in the present day. Which means much more than a billion people in over 1427 years.
    -Same language, and same type of rhetoric should be used.
    -Doenst have to be same subject, make it about what you desire.
    -Must remain unchanged for over 1427 years.
    -Must be as widespread as the Quran.
    It doesnt have to be written by one person. Call whoever you wish to help you.

    If it meets the above criteria, then it wont be rejected. But meeting the above is impossible. But the challange is out there. So know that it is indeed the Truth that you are denying.

    And who will be the judge of if it is better?
    Anyone can judge and see if it will meet the above criteria. It doesnt take a genius to figure it out.
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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    Salam everyone, here is a great link about this whole challenge by Allah (swt)
    to produce a chapter or surah of the Quran. It is a really good thread and very informative. It really showed me just how IMPOSSIBLE IT IS to produce a surah or chapter of the Quran. http://ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63247

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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    an example of an error is my example above. Did Jesus enter the temple on Tuesday night or Wednesday morning?

    Who cares! All that matters is the morale of the story!

    Did you understand what Jesus did?
    why u lie ur eyes...the errors is errors.nothing else...

    i show u the truth about ur Bible..due to All these translation by Christian...everyone wanna make Bible as he like to be...


    Allah saied:

    [78] And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book, but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. [79] Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: "This is from Allah," to traffic with it for a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (2:78-79)

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    Re: "50,000 Errors In The Bible"

    format_quote Originally Posted by therebbe
    Imagine if someone presented a book and said it was better than the Quran? How do you judge this? Use of Arabic? Better Laws? Better paragraph structure?


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    2:120 Never will the JEWS or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance." Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.


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