Truth= god does not exist?

**nogod2006** · 10-31-2006

I have yet to meet an individual that can prove the existence of this unseen entity that is known universally as god. My core beliefs stem from the fact that this world came to be by mere chance and probability. That is why I would to like call out to any one that can prove to me (once and for all) the existence of this so called god ( or maybe gods ……ha-ha).

P.S please try to use references to prove your points that are based on solid scientific facts

**Ibn Abi Ahmed** · 10-31-2006

Hi,

Do you believe in the Sun? I dont believe in it. Its not there. It cant be there. The light I see in the day is caused by tubelights in the sky.

**IzakHalevas** · 10-31-2006

solid scientific facts

What is a "solid scientific fact"? It seems with each new generation of scientists new "facts" become the obvious.

How about we try this in a simpler way, can you prove to me there is no G-d, by use of solid scientific facts?

**Dahir** · 10-31-2006

I will resort to a classic that I'm sure Ahmed has seen before:

The bacterial flagellum's stator, rotor, drive-shaft, U-joint, and propeller. It is not convenient that we've given these parts these names - that's truly their function. If you were to find a stator, rotor, drive-shaft, U-joint, or propeller in any vehicle, machine, toy or model, you would recognize them as the product of an intelligent source. No one would expect an outboard motor -- much less one as incredible as the flagellar motor -- to be the product of a chance assemblage of parts. Motors are the product of intelligent design.

Its not very puzzling, try to make the best sense of it.

**Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн** · 10-31-2006

Does chaos create organization? If so, what exactly? If I dropped a glass on the floor over and over, will i ever get a perfect split? Thats pretty unlikely.
How is that everything in our body has a role, a purpose for us, yet we ourselves have none? Trying to prove God's existence physically is like saying God itself is creation. Creation is finite not infinite.

**Ibn Abi Ahmed** · 10-31-2006

Originally Posted by nogod2006

pretty funny haha
how ever i can see the sun but i cant see this god of yours and u have still not proved anything to me.
good job son!

Can you see light? Can you see thoughts? Can you see feelings?

**wilberhum** · 10-31-2006

Originally Posted by nogod2006

I have yet to meet an individual that can prove the existence of this unseen entity that is known universally as god. My core beliefs stem from the fact that this world came to be by mere chance and probability. That is why I would to like call out to any one that can prove to me (once and for all) the existence of this so called god ( or maybe gods ……ha-ha).

P.S please try to use references to prove your points that are based on solid scientific facts

There are no "solid scientific facts" either for or against. If you have any concept of what Science is, you would understant that.

**nogod2006** · 10-31-2006

Originally Posted by Dahir

I will resort to a classic that I'm sure Ahmed has seen before:

The bacterial flagellum's stator, rotor, drive-shaft, U-joint, and propeller. It is not convenient that we've given these parts these names - that's truly their function. If you were to find a stator, rotor, drive-shaft, U-joint, or propeller in any vehicle, machine, toy or model, you would recognize them as the product of an intelligent source. No one would expect an outboard motor -- much less one as incredible as the flagellar motor -- to be the product of a chance assemblage of parts. Motors are the product of intelligent design.

Its not very puzzling, try to make the best sense of it.

yes that is true if we were living in a small world however consider the size of the entire universe and such a complex thing is quite possible . not to mention the age of the universe.

**IbnAbdulHakim** · 10-31-2006

i can quite easily slap you, good luck showing me the pain. you might say you feel it but i cant see it so

**nogod2006** · 10-31-2006

Originally Posted by Ähmed

Can you see light? Can you see thoughts? Can you see feelings?

that is true however all of the variables that you have preposed are at the very least measurable . tell me then can u in any way present me the dimension of this so called god
good luck on that buddy

**Dahir** · 10-31-2006

Originally Posted by nogod2006

yes that is true if we were living in a small world however consider the size of the entire universe and such a complex thing is quite possible . not to mention the age of the universe.

I know its possible, so is the airplane, but someone had to design and create it -- correct?

**Woodrow** · 10-31-2006

A blind person will never see the blue sky. For that person there is no way to prove the sky even exists or is blue.

To a non-believer there is no acceptable proof of Gods(swt) existance and for that person God(swt) does not exist, and will not exist.

There is no need to prove the existance of God(swt), a person only needs to accept the Love of God(swt) and the warmth will lead to the proof.

**Ibn Abi Ahmed** · 10-31-2006

tell me then can u in any way present me the dimension of this so called god

Yeah. I can measure light. Its about 12 feet long in my room. Also, my thoughts weigh about 54 pounds and are 10 feet long and my feelings weigh 66 pounds. How much does yours weigh?

lol. Your question is flawed. You dont even understand what 'God' is. To ascribe him a dimension would be to put him under constriction and size is an attribute of something created.

**nogod2006** · 10-31-2006

Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim

i can quite easily slap you, good luck showing me the pain. you might say you feel it but i cant see it so

that is the silliest thing i have ever heard or read because how can that possibly prove to me the exsistence of your god
son think and try to be more serious
please , for your own sake, stop ( i repeat stop) embarrassing your self

**nogod2006** · 10-31-2006

Originally Posted by Tayyaba

Does chaos create organization? If so, what exactly? If I dropped a glass on the floor over and over, will i ever get a perfect split? Thats pretty unlikely.
How is that everything in our body has a role, a purpose for us, yet we ourselves have none? Trying to prove God's existence physically is like saying God itself is creation. Creation is finite not infinite.

like u said unlikely
but it is still possible

**Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн** · 10-31-2006

You would never get it. It would always split in many pieces.

**Ibn Abi Ahmed** · 10-31-2006

Originally Posted by nogod2006

that is the silliest thing i have ever heard or read because how can that possibly prove to me the exsistence of your god
son think and try to be more serious
please , for your own sake, stop ( i repeat stop) embarrassing your self

Dont divert from the question. Can you see pain?

**Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн** · 10-31-2006

So does choas create organization, something in perfection? Answer please?

**nogod2006** · 10-31-2006

Originally Posted by Ähmed

Dont divert from the question. Can you see pain?

you do not have to see it but it can still be measured by the use of certain equipment( that measure brain activity)

**Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн** · 10-31-2006

Yet u still have to measure something u can "feel." Looking at such a complex design as the Earth, humans, animals, everything inside and out, u still need proof?