Satan's Horrible Acts

It is an image of scandal, humiliation, arrogance, banishment and eternal curse. Satan is described in the Quran as the deadliest enemy of man. He refused to prostrate himself to Adam and rejected this command of God who banished and cursed him but gave him respite until the Day of Resurrection. Due to his arrogance and envy he declared that he will do his best to bring about the fall and the doom of Adam and humanity. Thus in the Quran, Satan is the source of all evils in human life. Man is warned against that greatest foe of his i.e. Satan. Satans main goal is to lead people astray from God and take them with him to the hellfire.

format_quote Originally Posted by Pygoscelis

Does he kill anybody?

He is not as close minded as that. He doesn't gain anything from murder unless:

1. The person he murdered died in a state of disbelief. That would make him happy, one more person to fuel hell-fire.

2. That particular murder was done through another human, therefore getting that human to commit a major sin, and at the same time killing another person.

etc....

What is murder really when compared to persuading people to sin with the aim of securing them a seat in the eternal hell fire?

The story of the Devil:

11. And surely, We created you (your father Adam) and then gave you shape (the noble shape of a human being), then We told the angels, "Prostrate to Adam", and they prostrated, except Iblîs (Satan), he refused to be of those who prostrate.

12. (Allâh) said: "What prevented you (O Iblîs) that you did not prostrate, when I commanded you?" Iblîs said: "I am better than him (Adam), You created me from fire, and him You created from clay."

13. (Allâh) said: "(O Iblîs) get down from this (Paradise), it is not for you to be arrogant here. Get out, for you are of those humiliated and disgraced."

14. (Iblîs) said: "Allow me respite till the Day they are raised up (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)."

15. (Allâh) said: "You are of those allowed respite."

16. (Iblîs) said: "Because You have sent me astray, surely I will sit in wait against them (human beings) on Your Straight Path.

17. Then I will come to them from before them and behind them, from their right and from their left, and You will not find most of them as thankful ones (i.e. they will not be dutiful to You)."

18. (Allâh) said (to Iblîs) "Get out from this (Paradise) disgraced and expelled. Whoever of them (mankind) will follow you, then surely I will fill Hell with you all."

Chaper 7 (Quran)

format_quote Originally Posted by Pygoscelis

If one views God (rightly or wrongly) in a negative light, and as a bad guy instead of a good guy, then does Satan become a heroic figure, fighting against God, or does Satan do terrible things like killing, stealing etc.

That is disgusting!

The Devil is nothing but a pure enemy of every human being! He might not kill/steal himself but he is the one who tempts humans to do it and make it seem permissible and less evil for them! He wants nothing more than to fill the hell-fire with people! The more the merrier. As if he cares about anyone else, he knows that he is doomed himself.

Even if you view God to be 'evil' (May God protect us from such foolish ideas!), how does rebelling help? The devil has his place in hell reserved already, by 'worshipping' or teaming up with him a human is doing nothing but securing themselves an eternal seat in hell!

Do they think that the devil will help them when the angel of death comes to them, and forceful snatches their soul? No! He will laugh at them, happy to have secured another person for the hell fire!

And what will the devil say to him when they meet on the Day of Judgement?! Are they still a team? Is he still his 'friend'?? No! He will betray him completely:

His companion (Satan devil)] will say: "Our Lord! I did not push him to transgress, (in disbelief, oppression, and evil deeds) but he was himself in error far astray."

[50:27]

Honestly, some people just have nothing to rebel against so they rebel against themselves.

Pygoscelis, you don't actually believe in Satan do you? I mean, you don't even believe in God.

format_quote Originally Posted by Pygoscelis

Are there any biblical or quranic verses stating that Satan WANTS harm to come to people, or just that he wants them to stand up to or go astray from God, harm being the ultimate consequence due to God's will and power?

Yes it is very clear that he wants to harm us. As I mentioned in my first post:

1. He is arrogant and thinks that he is better than us. Is this what you call a justified reason to rebel against the Almighty God? Arrogance?

Iblîs said: "I am better than him (Adam), You created me from fire, and him You created from clay."

2. He declared to lead us astray:

(Iblîs) said: "Because You have sent me astray, surely I will sit in wait against them (human beings) on Your Straight Path.

Then I will come to them from before them and behind them, from their right and from their left, and You will not find most of them as thankful ones (i.e. they will not be dutiful to You)."
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(Allâh) said (to Iblîs) "Get out from this (Paradise) disgraced and expelled. Whoever of them (mankind) will follow you, then surely I will fill Hell with you all."

Chaper 7 (Quran)

Here he states explicitly that he has betrayed us (The setting is the Day of Judgement):

And Shaitan will say when the matter has been decided: "Verily, Allah promised you a promise of truth. And I too promised you, but I betrayed you. I had no authority over you except that I called you and you responded to me. So blame me not, but blame yourselves. I cannot help you, nor can you help me. I deny your former act in associating me with as a partner with Allah. Verily, there is a painful torment for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrongdoers).
[14:22]

I haven't got any other resources at quote from at the moment, perhaps someone else can quote something.

I think of the Devil as the opposite of everything embodied in Jesus Christ. One poster described Satan as "the enemy of man", and I think that is a valid description.

Although some satanists actually worship Satan as a person, to my understanding most satanists don't.

Instead they follow the idea of Satan rising up against God's authority.
In some way it preaches anarchy - the defiance against authority.

These behaviours are evident throughout Bible history:

• Adam and Eve defy God by eating the fruit which will give them 'the knowledge of good and evil' , i.e. will make them more 'like God'
• People build the tower of Babel to 'become like God'
• The Israelites turn away from God while Moses is on the mountain and build themselves a golden idol, i.e. a 'replacement for God'

These are the behaviours Satanists aspire to. To defy God and his authority. To fulfill their own needs, wishes and desires.
Foe many non-believers that may not sound so bad. Many people have a 'live-and-let-live' and 'do-what-you-like-as-long-as-you-harm-no-one' attitude.

For believers (Muslims, Christians and Jews alike) that concept is quite shocking! When all they strive for is the exact opposite: to put God first, to lead the kind of live which would please God.
So looking at Satan from the eyes of a monotheist, Satan is the ultimate enemy: he tries to come between believer and God, to tempt and entice people away from God, and thereby to destroy the one thing which is most precious: the relationship with God.

peace

Well sis to put it simply...

The worst of the worst things that humanity does..including torture, killing etc etc are ALL suggestions from the satan.

But he SUGGESTS...the people ACT

So on the day of judgment when he is asked if he MADE those people do those things, he will turn his back on them and say "I only whispered it to them, it is they who acted on it"

So deception (telling people lies) and arrogance (in front of god) are the 2 major things he does.

Apart from that I dont believe he kills or anything

Well the answer is very simple. He has lied to every single being that exists; Making the evil look good and making the good look evil to them. So that means he is partially responsible for a lot of wrongdoings of this world.

I have met a few self-proclaimed satanists. To be honest I do not believe they had any concept as to who or what satan is. They struck me more as anti-authority radicals and simply enjoyed the ability to shock other people.

http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-i...f+the+shaytaan

i think this board has the satanist religion thread somewhere.....

it has alot of info in it....but i don't really know where

sorry.

format_quote Originally Posted by steve

... Making the evil look good and making the good look evil to them. So that means he is partially responsible for a lot of wrongdoings of this world.

That is more of an accurate description of his prupose, ultimately to lead a portion of mankind into hell.