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    Question coptic .. catholic .. orthodox (OP)


    I want to ask what the diffrents between them?
    from where this diffrents come? and why :rolleyes:
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Jayda View Post
    hola mariam,

    si, Barnabas was a very great apostle... however he did not author the book that claims to be written by him. that is a lie created by the true authors (the turks) when they wrote it in the 16th century.

    in order to be considered gospels there must be an actual connection to an apostolic writer... not just a claim of one, these things are investigated and chains are traced back to a true apostolic source. obviously no such thing happened with the book you are referring to because it was written in spanish and italian 1500 years after Barnabas died by turkish muslims.

    the muslims needed the gospel of Barnabas because christians do not believe in the quran, it was obviously made so that they could say it is a gospel, not the quran, but it gives legitimacy to the quran. because the bible does not.

    the gospel of Judas is the same, it was written centuries after the death of the last apostle, and also cannot be traced to a legitimate apostle, instead it can be traced to an ancient sect called "gnostics" that claimed to hold secret knowledge of God.

    these things are deceptively called "gospels" and are deceptively titled after real people in the Bible to try to give them legitimacy, but unlike the synoptic gospels they cannot actually be traced to genuine apostles.

    i do not understand why muslims insist on quoting these texts with Christians, we do not follow false texts and discussing matters of trinity or future prophets using these false texts is not discussing Christianity. it is discussing a religion that does not exist... nor would any muslim convince Christians to abandon the sacred Canon for the misguidance of heretical writings.

    it is fruitless discussion to do so...

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    I am so sorry If I hurt you Jayda .. I didn't mean to do so
    but please can you read my thread "Judas or Jesus?"
    it's writen by THE WASHINGTON TIMES reported in its number dated April 6th, 2006.
    and I see an English documentary program about the same subject and they say the same ..
    Iam sorry again .. peace
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Jayda View Post
    hola mariam,

    si, Barnabas was a very great apostle... however he did not author the book that claims to be written by him. that is a lie created by the true authors (the turks) when they wrote it in the 16th century.

    in order to be considered gospels there must be an actual connection to an apostolic writer... not just a claim of one, these things are investigated and chains are traced back to a true apostolic source. obviously no such thing happened with the book you are referring to because it was written in spanish and italian 1500 years after Barnabas died by turkish muslims.

    I'd like to see evidence showing that 16th century Turks actually wrote the Gospel of Barnabas. So far Christians have pointed out that it is forgery without evidence saying it is so.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Knight View Post
    I'd like to see evidence showing that 16th century Turks actually wrote the Gospel of Barnabas. So far Christians have pointed out that it is forgery without evidence saying it is so.
    hola Muslim Knight,

    the wikipedia article says the most likely point of origin is Turkey. the article also says that almost all scholars agree it is a forgery.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by mariam. View Post
    I am so sorry If I hurt you Jayda .. I didn't mean to do so
    but please can you read my thread "Judas or Jesus?"
    it's writen by THE WASHINGTON TIMES reported in its number dated April 6th, 2006.
    and I see an English documentary program about the same subject and they say the same ..
    Iam sorry again .. peace
    hola mariam,

    there is no need to apologize, i did not think you understood the importance of the biblical canon to us and why it is considered insulting to say something is orthodox which is not orthodox... in Catholicism there is something called "heresy" which is a sinful belief... like believing there is another god, or not believing in God at all, or not believing in the Church or Scripture... insisting on a heretical book being something that is part of Catholicism is telling us to follow heresy which to us is a massive sin and insult...

    the Gospel of Judas is a gnostic book from the 4th century, the gnostics were a heretical sect that broke away from Christianity, or were never part of it... we do not know very much about them... they created the gospel of Judas to teach their beliefs, it was never part of the apostolic Church... i think it is meant to be allegoric and not a literal gospel... everybody knows Judas died horribly after betraying Jesus...

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    Re: coptic .. catholic .. orthodox

    The "Gospel of Barnabas" is a 16th century forgery intended to create a gospel that supported the Muslim view of Jesus. It isn't exactly a secret for those who bother to look it up.
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