What will we Muslims lose if there is no GOD ??? (OP)
What will we Muslims lose if there is no GOD ???
In here I will deal with this question from a probability and statistically point of view
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What will we lose if there is no GOD ,as a matter of fact we didn’t lose and will not lose a big deal you know why ?
Because if there is no GOD then when we all die it will be the end ,no one will be punished and no one will be awarded as well ,so this will be the end of it and we will not lose any thing .
No one has lost any thing because if that is so then we are all equal , we are all just died ,we will be all vanished…
We Muslims didn’t have any trouble by worshiping one GOD alone with no partners .
We can eat every kind of food except a few things (like pork and non slaughtered animals and every thing that is harmful) We can drink any kind of syrup except a few types of drinks (like wine and impure drinks and blood and every thing that is harmful )
So we Muslims are worshiping GOD and also are enjoying our life Both males and females can get married and enjoy our marriages.(we don’t have to do prohibited adultery). We can make journeys and enjoy traveling We can work and get money and spend it to gain physical allowed enjoyments (like eating the allowed ,drinking , marrying , traveling , reading books , studying and becoming scientists and so on) We are being kind to others and we help people and treat out fathers and mothers well and obey our parents for Allah’s sake .
But if there is a GOD then
any one who haven’t believed in that or didn’t worship him will surely lose a lot especially after he dies because all sorts of punishments will be waiting for him and he will enter eternal Hell with no chance to get out of it and you know what he deserved it.
More to say that :
FIRST :- If Jews will go to paradise because they worshiped one GOD and believe in all God’s prophets including Moses (peace be upon him) and the holy scriptures sent by GOD and because Jews obey the ten commandments ..
Then Muslims is more worthy to go to paradise because they worship one GOD and they believe in all the prophets send by GOD including prophet Moses (peace be upon him) and they believe in all the original scriptures came with those prophets with the addition that we also believe in the last messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him) and believe in God’s last send book named the Qur`an and Muslims also have commands and orders that is mainly better than the ten commandments.
SECOND : if Christians will go to paradise because they believe in all previous prophets and specially in Jesus (peace be upon him) and his miraculous birth and be cause they love Jesus and his virgin mother and they admire both of them.
Then Muslims is more worthy to go to paradise because they believe in all the previous prophets and we never denied the miracles of them (like prophet Moses stick and prophet Jesus healing the diseased and prophet soleman having the jinn obeying his orders and prophet Joseph’s visions that came true and so all other prophets) and we love and admire prophet Jesus and his mother and we believe in his miraculous birth And in addition we believe in the prophet Muhammad and we love and admire him and we affirm his miracles and obey his orders.
So a conclusion of all that is above Muslims will never lose a thing if they persist to be Muslims till they die.
If there is a GOD we will go to paradise and if there is not we will not suffer in our after life..
But there is a scary probability that atheists will lose every thing in there future after death and this loss will be for eternity And the same thing can be said to Jews and Christians and all other current false religions
Then all those who have not believed in Islam will say the following :
In the Qur`an translation chapter 6:
006.027 If thou couldst see when they are set before the Fire and say: Oh, would that we might return! Then would we not deny the revelations of our Lord but we would be of the believers!
006.028 Nay, but that hath become clear unto them which before they used to hide. And if they were sent back they would return unto that which they are forbidden. Lo! they are liars. 006.029 And they say: There is nothing but our life of this world, and we shall not be raised
006.030 And could you see when they are made to stand before their Lord. He will say: Is not this the truth? They will say: Yea! by our Lord. He will say: Taste then the chastisement because you disbelieved.
006.031 They are losers indeed who reject the meeting of Allah; until when the hour comes upon them all of a sudden they shall say: O our grief for our neglecting it! and they shall bear their burdens on their backs; now surely evil is that which they bear.
006.032 What is the life of this world but play and amusement? But best is the home in the hereafter, for those who are righteous. Will ye not then understand?
And finally I say peace on those who follow their Creator’s guide ..
Re: What will we Muslims lose if there is no GOD ???
format_quote Originally Posted by hemoo
[B][COLOR=darkslateblue]it seems to me that the main cause of some people becoming atheists is their background religion.
As there are few if any places in this world where the people are predominantly atheistic, we're pretty much all going to be coming from a society with a religion, be it Jew, Christian, Muslim, Buddist, whatever.
I myself was never a Christian. My mother was a presbeterian. My father was a coseted agnostic (he never talked about religion but went along with my mother). I have been atheist since as long as I can remember. I did go to church in the early days, but it was far more a cultural experience than a religious one. I never prayed myself (though I sat while others did) and never expected anybody was listening to prayers.
Someone said to the Prophet, "Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them." The Prophet replied, "I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse." (Muslim)
Re: What will we Muslims lose if there is no GOD ???
sounds like a fantastic tour du monde to validate a subjective view of yours... will we first encounter these dedicated non-Muslims at Israeli check points? I will go with you on this one and say Yes!
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
Re: What will we Muslims lose if there is no GOD ???
Greetings,
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
Honestly i have grown up in london, i went to primary/secondary/college and am now working in a university yet i havent met one commited person of another faith.
I'm a committed atheist. Pleased to meet you!
I find this strange.. i thought i found a christian once but after questioning a bit it turned out he doesnt really believe. So it seems to me that only muslims widely truelly believe in God.
I can see why you've had some misunderstandings over this post, due to the way you've phrased it, but at the same time I think I can see what you mean.
The average Muslim that I have met has thought of god in a much more vivid and real sense than the average Christian. Many people who are labelled 'Christian' aren't remotely interested in religion of any kind. In Britain, many of these nominal Christians get slightly embarrassed when asked if they believe in god.
Re: What will we Muslims lose if there is no GOD ???
sounds like a fantastic tour du monde to validate a subjective view of yours... will we first encounter these dedicated non-Muslims at Israeli check points? I will go with you on this one and say Yes!
Most likely not, however, you will find the studying the Torah and Talmud about 21 out of the 24 hours of the day. You wouldn't want to get into religious discussions because many of them have already memorized the majority of your holiest scriptures (christians, muslims, mormans) and know how to refute missionaries quickly and accuratly. And they may become very angry if your not modestly dressed.
After that, then yeah, come to Israel, and I would love to take you on a tour!
Re: What will we Muslims lose if there is no GOD ???
format_quote Originally Posted by lavikor201
Atheism is pretty much a faith, I would say. There faith is in the scientific theories like "evolution" and there prophets are Darwin.
Darwin was a racist, he was also a man who worked without any evidence. To take this man as a prophet is insanity!
Science has been revealed to our prophets aswell in the religious scriptures in a far more accurate way (it didnt require changing due to recent discoveries).
I will never understand aethiests, honestly if you leave an isolated man to grow up for himself only giving him the necessaties (food/shelter) do you think he will grow up to be a disbeliever? No, that is the most unlikely thing, he will recognise that there must be a source that has been providing for him and guiding him through his life and submit.
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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please dont reply if you disagree. I dislike blatent and complete arrogance.
With those remarks I just have to.
Bend and twist any way you want. After scientists discovered facts, the ones that theists like, said "See, it is in my Holy Book". The others they just deny.
Any way, I have no dog in this hunt. I’m going to back into my corner and just look.
Re: What will we Muslims lose if there is no GOD ???
format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum
After scientists discovered facts, the ones that theists like, said "See, it is in my Holy Book". :
i just have one statement,
anything science may discover which controdicts with the quran and sunnah i will blatently and confidently reject, and i am equally confident that you will later find the quran and saheeh sunnah to be more true then the scientific theories.
I can give you examples over examples such as the shape of the earth and the reflection of the moon etc but you yourself claim kufr (disbelief) so thats what you will do in what is so blatently obvious.
may Allah guide you. I mean it, you have some intelligence, subhanAllah i wish you would just consider what many orientalists themself have found, islam borrows NOTHING from nowhere, its all from God, and anything which controdicts us (islam) will eventually fade for falsehood is bound to fade!
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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Re: What will we Muslims lose if there is no GOD ???
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
i just have one statement,
anything science may discover which controdicts with the quran and sunnah i will blatently and confidently reject, and i am equally confident that you will later find the quran and saheeh sunnah to be more true then the scientific theories.
I can give you examples over examples such as the shape of the earth and the reflection of the moon etc but you yourself claim kufr (disbelief) so thats what you will do in what is so blatently obvious.
may Allah guide you. I mean it, you have some intelligence, subhanAllah i wish you would just consider what many orientalists themself have found, islam borrows NOTHING from nowhere, its all from God, and anything which controdicts us (islam) will eventually fade for falsehood is bound to fade!
Re: What will we Muslims lose if there is no GOD ???
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
i just have one statement,
anything science may discover which controdicts with the quran and sunnah i will blatently and confidently reject, and i am equally confident that you will later find the quran and saheeh sunnah to be more true then the scientific theories.
I can give you examples over examples such as the shape of the earth and the reflection of the moon etc but you yourself claim kufr (disbelief) so thats what you will do in what is so blatently obvious.
may Allah guide you. I mean it, you have some intelligence, subhanAllah i wish you would just consider what many orientalists themself have found, islam borrows NOTHING from nowhere, its all from God, and anything which controdicts us (islam) will eventually fade for falsehood is bound to fade!
Why don't you start a thread titled "Things science discovered Because they were in a holy book" and give us your long list.
Now just let me go back into my corner and just look.
:enough!:
Re: What will we Muslims lose if there is no GOD ???
format_quote Originally Posted by lavikor201
Most likely not, however, you will find the studying the Torah and Talmud about 21 out of the 24 hours of the day.!
This affects me how?
format_quote Originally Posted by lavikor201
You wouldn't want to get into religious discussions because many of them have already memorized the majority of your holiest scriptures (christians, muslims, mormans) and know how to refute missionaries quickly and accuratly.
I am sure that would prove interesting! I tend to find that jacks of all trades are masters of none!
format_quote Originally Posted by lavikor201
And they may become very angry if your not modestly dressed.
You make this assumption why? Yes I forget they ask people to strip at checkpoint!
format_quote Originally Posted by lavikor201
After that, then yeah, come to Israel, and I would love to take you on a tour!
Again assuming I haven't already been there-- but thanks for the offer!
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
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