Thats not true actually. how do u expect to learn if u do not discuss? Its not the same. When ur discussing about a certain religion, u ask questions also. Promoting is like advertising. Discussion involves asking questions or having an earnest conversation so we can learn and remove misconceptions.
Last edited by Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн; 01-08-2007 at 08:45 PM.
*Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*
Guru Nanak was a nice man, and he mixed hinduism and islam to avoid conflict between both parties. Its sad he failedf to see the truth in islam and used alot of quranic verses in some of his books, especially abt the sun and the moon being a sphere?
Some of his teachings are good. Like he taught hindoos to forsake teir silly superstitions, like in one story hindoos were pouring water in a field saying that it will reach the dead, Guru Nanak upon seeing this took some water and threw the other side n said to the hindoos that by throwing water here it will reach his padi fields.
But alot of his teachings are from the Quran.
Picking bits and pieces does not give you the correct picture of anything. You want to know more of Shri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, pls visit this site and remove all doubts. http://www.info-sikh.com/PageNan1.html
Yes Veer Ji I wonder why?? If he has insulted Islam, please show us proof.
It's the fear of proving people to be wrong. Nobody wants to be told the religion they follow is not the correct path, hence why it is deemed necessary to edit., when facts are presented.
Gur Fateh!
Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā
The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah.
Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
Thats not true actually. how do u expect to learn if u do not discuss? Its not the same. When ur discussing about a certain religion, u ask questions also. Promoting is like advertising. Discussion involves asking questions or having an earnest conversation so we can learn and remove misconceptions.
Once again, if nobody is allowed entirely explain any religion other than Islam as it's considered promoting religion. I don't believe that person in question aka Sikh tried advertizing Sikhism. He probably simply expained Sikhi to an extent where the moderators thought he was promoting Sikhism. No we don't advertize our religion.
So it's wrong to talk about a religion without letting someone entirely explain it as this way people can't find out the whole truth. Not telling the whole and not allowing someone to tell the whole truth is another way of lying.
I only answered what u said, cuz i dunno remember what Sikh said. I only mentioned the difference between the two. If u honestly have a problem with this, discuss it with the mod. i cant do anything for u.
Peace
*Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*
Haven't been here in a while.. whatever happened to the sikh member who reverted to Islam who used to write in this thread? is he still with us (hanif revert) has he changed his name? There was another fellow who was asking about other Sikh reverts and thought he was the only one-- do they know of one another?
thanks
Last edited by جوري; 02-17-2007 at 08:53 PM.
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
ive been reading this thread over the last few days and i must admit i
am bow MORE baffled with the teachings of sikhism NOW THEN BEFORE!!!!
YOU MUST UNDERSTAND that every misunderstood religion needs oxygen to
promote it's beleifs.Through the entire thread there is the constant reference to the gurus(TEACHERS) as being prophets!!!!
Now that would mean that they are favoured by and guided by ALLAH????
[B] OK SO WHY is it that the only sikhs are punjabis/indian????Can you even give me one figure from an unbiased source which says otherwise!!![/B]
CAN it be that ALLAH just prefers the 0.000001 % of creation which happens to live in punjab.There seems to be a hint of prejudice there to me!!!!
where are all of us poor humans supposed to go.The EUROPEANS,AFRICANS,AMERICANS.ASIANS.From the eastern to the western hemisphere we have no salvation because ALLAH chose a handful of sikhs.
Im not trying to be rude but if you look at other cultures like rastafarianism,and inhabitants who live in secluded areas such as africa or austrailia(ABORIGINIES),THEY TOO HAVE THE SAME BELEIF....IN THERE OWN VERY SMALL RELIGION who we the rest of the world do not seem to know about!!!
However in islam you have a universal mix of humans from the entire globe!!!53 islamic countries by the grace of ALLAH and you can't seem to create one???Where is the divine intervention on behalf of sikhs????
SORRY if this may seem harsh but islam is rapidly spreading across the civilised world..but it seems no-one even has a clue about sikhism!!
who said that the only sikhs are punjabis? or indians??????
Blessed, blessed is that tongue, O my soul, which sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord God.
Sublime, pure and pious is that head, O my soul, which falls at the Lords Feet.
Nanak is a sacrifice to those, O my soul, who hear of the Lord, and believe in the Lord's Name.
the population of christians in the world is larger then islamic. does allah favour the 2nd largest religion in the world? or the largest???? you shud see in america, malasia, new zeland, uk, canada, austrailia, etc the growing sikh population my friend. Sikhs dont make it an objective to try an convert the world. if people want to follow sikhi, then fine, do it. but we dont try brainwashing and forcing the rest of the world to try and do so aswel.
and no, sikhs are not just punjabis, the population of white sikhs is growing rapidly my friend, as well as the population of black sikhs. if u need sources, let me know. these sikhs that are reverting are seeing the message of humanity that the Gurus have given. shown the difference and a direct path to Allah.
things like this is what makes islam grow so fast:
and this was the 1st link from a google search.....
Last edited by One Man Army; 02-18-2007 at 03:05 PM.
Blessed, blessed is that tongue, O my soul, which sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord God.
Sublime, pure and pious is that head, O my soul, which falls at the Lords Feet.
Nanak is a sacrifice to those, O my soul, who hear of the Lord, and believe in the Lord's Name.
IM SORRY.....IT'S NEWS TO ME.The above countries you mentioned about converting to sikhism,,,are you not getting mixed up with the sikhs who emigrate to these countries to look for jobs and settle there?????
I was in a conversation with a sikh friend before a couple of months back.He mentioned that a lot of sikhs were living in dubai,malaysia,america etc.I was visualising oriental/white caucasian looking men and women wearing turbans,bangles and all the other symbolic items in sikhism.Then he showed me photos of sikh temples in these countries.MAYBE my eyesight is going a bit weak at this tender age but they all seemed to look like your average punjabi!!!!Dark brown skin and normal indian sub continent features!!!:rolleyes:
Maybe the rastafarian brothers may also start to say
"o look....our religion has spread from jamica to the uk/america etc"!!!!
upon observation we note it's not conversion it's called EMIGRATION!!!:rolleyes:
Blessed, blessed is that tongue, O my soul, which sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord God.
Sublime, pure and pious is that head, O my soul, which falls at the Lords Feet.
Nanak is a sacrifice to those, O my soul, who hear of the Lord, and believe in the Lord's Name.
Not to interrupt this dialogue but Islam will be the dominant religion as prophesied. We are now 1.8 billion........and again we are described as fickle foam on the ocean floor by the prophet (PBUH) I don't think it matters to G-D if you are 1 or one billion. All that is good is from G-D... All that is bad is from us (our own doing)
peace!
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
Blessed, blessed is that tongue, O my soul, which sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord God.
Sublime, pure and pious is that head, O my soul, which falls at the Lords Feet.
Nanak is a sacrifice to those, O my soul, who hear of the Lord, and believe in the Lord's Name.
I don't think it matters to G-D if you are 1 or one billion.
:smile:
Blessed, blessed is that tongue, O my soul, which sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord God.
Sublime, pure and pious is that head, O my soul, which falls at the Lords Feet.
Nanak is a sacrifice to those, O my soul, who hear of the Lord, and believe in the Lord's Name.
You have not responded in time ULTIMATE FICTION.Maybe it is a sunday afternoon and you are ringing all your sikh cousins in MALAYSIA,AFRICA,AMERICA,RUSSIA??????:rolleyes:
If that is the case give my regards to your aunts and uncles.......i've got some proper things to discuss.:rant:
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