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    Ok, if you live in America then why is it that you still say allah? Here in the United States of America we speak a language called english, where we say "God."


    Why is it that you say that allah = God but you call them two different things?



    Why is it that you support the idea that allah and God are the same, but then you reject the fact that Jesus is God?

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    Re: Allah is in America

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    format_quote Originally Posted by dsfas View Post
    No. The books of judeaism were originally written in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic.

    Nowhere do I see it written in Arabic.







    He never spoke english at all, so that means that if you speak english are you disrespecting God? He didn't live in the United States either, so this again is evil.
    while your SO CALLED god is in heaven.. our GOD IS EVERYWHERE. yes back then people never drove cars.. so you are disrespecting god

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    Re: Allah is in America

    So is your god also in your house?
    Last edited by - Qatada -; 12-27-2005 at 07:57 PM. Reason: sorry..
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    Re: Allah is in America

    hey my question was a VERY valid one...why edited
    Last edited by akulion; 12-27-2005 at 08:02 PM. Reason: change
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    Re: Allah is in America

    format_quote Originally Posted by dsfas View Post
    No. The books of judeaism were originally written in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic.

    Nowhere do I see it written in Arabic.




    I never said that the torah was written in Arabic. Quote my words where did I say it was written in Arabic? I said the torah was written in Hebrew.







    He never spoke english at all, so that means that if you speak english are you disrespecting God? He didn't live in the United States either, so this again is evil.




    I speak English you speak english, we all speak English. If YOU think that speaking english will disrespect God you yourselve is disrespecting God. This is a completely absurd idea. Whereso ever in the quran did it say that muslims cannot learn another language? Just think about it if we cannot learn english then all of us would be illerterate! We need to speak English to survive in this world and we need Arabic to pray to God. Period.

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    Re: Allah is in America

    Salaam

    Lets keep it cival people

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    Re: Allah is in America

    format_quote Originally Posted by dsfas
    Ok, if you live in America then why is it that you still say allah? Here in the United States of America we speak a language called english, where we say "God."
    Indeed. And Spanish. Si habla espanol?

    Why is it that you say that allah = God but you call them two different things?
    Islam originated in Saudi Arabia, and the Arabic word for God is 'Allah'. According to Khaldun's post, you can call Him 'Allah' or 'God'.

    Anyway, where's the fun in translating EVERYTHING into English?

    Livin La Vie Da Loca becomes 'Living the life of madness'

    Bon Appetit becomes 'Good appetite'

    Mahatma Ghandi becomes 'Ben Kingsley'

    Why is it that you support the idea that allah and God are the same, but then you reject the fact that Jesus is God?
    Different strokes for different folks.

    format_quote Originally Posted by PRISONERofJOY12 View Post
    while your SO CALLED god is in heaven.. our GOD IS EVERYWHERE. yes back then people never drove cars.. so you are disrespecting god
    Our God is the same as yours. We just call him Allah and believe that Jesus was a prophet not God incarnate

    In Islam, God is everwhere in the sense that he is omnipotent and omniscient.

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    Re: Allah is in America

    Allah can see all and hear all and knows all and that is how he is everywhere

    But to say he is LITERALLY IN everything is wrong..because same as human bodies are occupied with souls - pig bodies also have pig souls and so on and so forth...and we cannot say he is in everything - that would be plain wrong!

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    Re: Allah is in America

    format_quote Originally Posted by akulion View Post
    Allah can see all and hear all and knows all and that is how he is everywhere

    But to say he is LITERALLY IN everything is wrong..because same as human bodies are occupied with souls - pig bodies also have pig souls and so on and so forth...and we cannot say he is in everything - that would be plain wrong!


    Well said bro, allah know whats happening everywhere; and he's closer to every humen being then their Jugular vein.

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    Re: Allah is in America

    Very true

    After all when a person says "I have the holy spirit inside me"
    And then goes and does unspeakable things...
    one has to wonder
    lol

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    Re: Allah is in America

    Asalaamu3laykum
    i totaly agree with brother "Akulion"
    Allah is everywhere with every one with his knowledge and he is above the seven heavens.

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    Re: Allah is in America

    format_quote Originally Posted by Halima View Post
    I never said that the torah was written in Arabic. Quote my words where did I say it was written in Arabic? I said the torah was written in Hebrew.













    I speak English you speak english, we all speak English. If YOU think that speaking english will disrespect God you yourselve is disrespecting God. This is a completely absurd idea. Whereso ever in the quran did it say that muslims cannot learn another language? Just think about it if we cannot learn english then all of us would be illerterate! We need to speak English to survive in this world and we need Arabic to pray to God. Period.


    You said Arabic was the language of God. What's your source of information?

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    Re: Allah is in America

    format_quote Originally Posted by dsfas View Post
    You said Arabic was the language of God. What's your source of information?
    Salaam

    The quran is written in Arabic which are the words of god

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    Re: Allah is in America

    salam alaikum

    Once again can I say that Allah has CHOOSEN Arabic as the language for the Quran and Arabs as the people to whom the Quran was revealed and for them to propogate it forward...

    It is a blessing from Allah - it dosent make them superior to anyone

    Same way the Children of Isreal were once CHOOSEN by Allah but they kept on trangressing to the extent they started denying even after seeing multiple miracles through Moses. So Allah sent them Isa(as) who was the livin miracle and yet they denied him and tried to kill him...

    thus Allah cast them down and choose another people. I.e. the Arabs and then amongst them came the final messenger and the Quran in their language as well.

    Its not some sort of thing about one nation superior to other nation - its simply who God Choose to do a duty.

    That is why in Islam wether ur Arab or American Girl or Boy everyone is Equal in the sight of Allah

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    The bible is not written in arabic. The bible is the word of God.

    Also, there is nothing more than the bible.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Revelations 22:18-19
    I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

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    If Jesus was the Prophet then how come John, Mark Mathew Paul and all those other guys added to the Bible?

    Obiviously they are additions by human hands - not divine words!

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    Re: Allah is in America

    format_quote Originally Posted by dsfas View Post
    You said Arabic was the language of God. What's your source of information?

    Sure thing!






    Then God gave the world the Quran in the Arabic language. And again history repeats itself and the Arabs thought that Arabic is the language of God. They never appreciated that God gave His previous scriptures in other languages, namely Hebrew and Aramaic. They never appreciated the fact that in all the languages that the scriptures came down with, the most important single fact is that the message has been always the same. "WORSHIP GOD ALONE." They never appreciated the fact that to God belongs all the languages of the world, He created them, just like He created us, See 49:13 and 11:118-119.







    You still havent answered my question before. Where did i say that the Torah was written in arabic?
    Last edited by Halima; 12-27-2005 at 09:38 PM.

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    Re: Allah is in America

    Want more?



    Why an Arabic quran?



    Only those who understand the purpose of the book will understand why it is in Arabic or non-Arabic.


    Quran is a book of a message and not a book of entertainment. God knows that HIS MESSAGE can be and will be translated to all the languages of the world and that the true believer will get His message in any place that was destined to be. God would not send a message that cannot be given to everyone clear and unambiguous. God would not send a message in a language that the people cannot read, speak or understand then punish them for not knowing what His message is.


    God clearly told us in the Quran that He does not want any hardship in His religion. God did not put any hardship on these millions (or bilions) of non-Arabs to master the Arabic language before getting His message. See 22:78 Getting the message and enjoying the literature excellence of the Quran are two different matters.


    The contemporary Arabs of Muhammed listened to the Quran and appreciated its literature excellence but many of them did not believe then, e.g. Abu Jahl and Abu Lahab, Muhammed's own uncles. Many of the contemporary Arabs of today read the Quran in Arabic but do not appreciate the message of the Quran, they belong to the same group as Abu Jahl and Abu Lahab.


    It is the message of the Quran that actually counts, and THANKS GOD, it is the part of the Quran that can be translated. If that message could not be translated, there would not be there these 900 million Muslims who do not know how to read, speak, or understand Arabic.


    The inability to appreciate the literature excellence of the Quran is but a minor loss if the message could be appreciated, since the purpose of the excellence in literature was one way to get the people to accept the message. In other words, appreciating the message by a non-Arabic speaking person is like going to the conclusion without passing by all the proofs.


    This is in contrast to many of those who had the proof, read Arabic and see the literature excellence of the Quran but failed to uphold the message . Many deceived Arabic speaking people put too much emphasis on their ability to appreciate the literature excellence of the Quran while missing the point of the need to appreciate the message itself, by following it.


    Understanding that God guarantees that the MESSAGE of the Quran will be given to the whole world in any language in any place, means to understand that having the Quran as an Arabic or non-Arabic book would not make the difference and that is exactly what God is teaching us in 41:44
    Source: http://www.---------------/quran/whyarabic.html
    Last edited by Halima; 12-27-2005 at 09:41 PM.

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    Re: Allah is in America

    I say Allah all the time even to a non muslim here in NY
    cause in Islam we say Allah so i believe thats how He is known to me!
    :loving: ALLAH:loving:
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    Re: Allah is in America

    This is all from the Quran, which was an entire book written by one man.

    What makes this any more valid than if I were to write a book and proclaim that I was ordamed by allah to write this, and that the words in the book I write are his words?

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    Re: Allah is in America

    format_quote Originally Posted by Halima View Post
    You still havent answered my question before. Where did i say that the Torah was written in arabic?

    You didnt, you said that Arabic was the language of God. Really all you know is that Arabic is the language of mohammed, who wrote a book and claimed that it was a message from God.


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