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    Is Aboriginal Australian's poetry Islamic? (OP)


    Elsewhere I have made some assertions about the retention of Islamic teachings by Traditionally Oriented Australian Aboriginal communities into this modern time. It is sadly however come to be that most Australians are alarmingly misinformed about modern Muslim people and our habits, and so few have been ready to accept a Muslim identity. There are reputedly about five thousand Australian Aboriginal Muslims. Yet some among that include those whom initially became Muslim only so as to conspire against persons with a Muslim identity. Yet this has an explaination. Others among us have been herding the persons in our communities whom were in a shirk and making difficulties for many, towards Muslim teaching wherein they are less of a risk to all Humans, and then those whom did not know that this was occuring made wrong assumptions about all Muslims. However, since it is now time to set these records straight, I am here today posting some of the poetry of Aboriginal Australians. The Newspaper these are published in is called the Koori Mail and is 100% Aboriginal owned and published. It contains very standard commentary from every available source about many Aboriginal persons whom have become prominent, from a very local level to an international level. Remember that the overall identifying Aboriginal population of Australia is only around 2-3 %, though perhaps as much as 5% if including every person whom considers them self at foundation an Aborigine. Those whom identify tend only to be whom were being prevented from being classed as Australian citizens because of black skin, until a referendum in 1967 in which the vast majority of Australians voted to change the constitution. My intention in this thread is to present some of the perceptions of Aboriginal Australians for the international Muslim community to observe the retention of our Indigenous form of Islam. But since most Australian Aborigines are not identifying as Muslims as a whole, it is for each Muslim to regard us independently in our identity. These poems for a portion of the mentioned Newspaper that is like a letters to the editor section.

    Fighting for Our Land:

    They cam for afar to this sacred land
    And stole what was ours, with much demand
    They tried to destroy everything that we knew
    With no remorse, compassion or even review
    Their actions were selfish, greedy and cruel
    What the didn't realise, is we'd fight for this land too

    Our leaders fought for us, they were noble, it's true
    They made sure the British saw our point of view
    The British used guns, and weapons, brand new
    But our 'brave mighty warriors' still plunged on right through
    They still haven't realised the things they have done

    To all of my people, who just want this as one
    They are the intruders on this land
    But my people are willing to walk hand in hand
    The only way things will ever be right
    Is to realise Aboriginal people's traditional rights

    Michele Frost, Kurri Kurri, NSW

    Writing to You:

    I feel the urge to write to you
    Yes you, you are the one and you know
    Be black, be beautiful, be you
    Amidst all the goings on in our Land
    I am glad that you, yes, you,
    Have taken a stand
    Be black, be beautiful, stand tall, don't fall

    I am proud of you, for the way you stand
    Being a role model within our society
    Be black, be beautiful, be you
    You are numbered with the many
    Who have never abused any
    Be black, be beautiful, be you

    Malcom Champion, Port Augusta S.A.

    Love and Mercy:

    Jesus, Love and Mercy are deeper than the ocean
    More forgiving that any of our motions
    Higher than any mountain
    More pure that a water fountain
    More mystic that Uluru
    They are there for me and you
    They are more luminour than the sky
    They are there for you and I

    Like the sunshine touching people along the beach
    The warmth of the love and mercy each person does reach
    Some just feel them more clearly as they respond
    To this love and mercy from the blue beyond
    There before time began on this Earth
    When God thought of us before our birth

    Jesus, Love and Mercy are more powerful than the oceans
    More stronger than our negative emotions
    Yes, they are vaster than the sky
    They are there for you and I
    So I'm larning to love him, this King up high

    Mary Price, Brunswick East, VIC

    A Song Eternal:

    You blow through my hair
    Ubiquitous
    A song upon my lips

    A call eternal
    The full moon
    An eclipse

    You, the contained applause
    Of falling leaves
    An autumn sunset
    A gentle blustering breeze

    The row of cotton trees
    Naked now their leaves have fallen
    Stand like silent warriors
    Calling

    Your name
    A song upon my lips

    Bright as a full moon
    Mysterious the eclipse

    Wrapped in your words
    Like a possum skin cloak
    Passionate laughter
    A magnificent she-oak

    You now depart
    Though you never go
    We beckon you
    As the highlands
    The snow

    The earth is empty
    The womb
    A shell
    You an Angel
    Life a spell

    These words
    Artifacts
    Of your leaving
    Of our love for you
    Now the grieving

    You blow through my hair
    Ubiquitous
    A song upon my lips

    Mysterious
    The full moon
    Eternal the eclipse

    this was written for a deceased cousin, teacher and woman warrior, whose name I have removed from the poem in accordance with Traditionally Oriented custom of my own adherence, but in the original authored with the name by Romaine Moreton July 14 2006

    Dots and Circles:

    dots an circles on a canvas
    formations bright and bold
    each one tells the story
    of a culture wise and old

    rock are in a cave
    the likes you'll never see
    each story is uniqure
    while shrouded in mystery

    lines in the sand
    passing down of the lore
    Elders of the tribe
    know exactly what they're for

    ochre on a face
    indication of who you are
    do you come from my tribe
    or are you from afar

    paintings in the gallery
    for all the world to see
    in droves they come to admire it
    but its secret is safe with me

    dots and cricles hold the dreaming
    of the spirits and the land
    lines are there forever
    just like the Dreaming

    if you are seeking proof
    or have a troubled mind
    dots and circles provide the truth
    that our ancestors left behind

    Dillinga, Charters Towers, QLD

    Nan:

    A woman of spirit
    A woman of Soul
    A woman so beautiful
    She never grows old

    Younger and younger every year
    she is so beautiful dear
    Both inside and out
    Like a rose bud sprout

    My rock my life
    When I am sometimes in strife
    Keeps me strong
    When the winds are blowin' wrong
    She's my life
    'Cos she is like my mum
    Always there when I am strung

    Believed in me
    And helped me be free
    Who I want to be
    Like a bird flying
    Head held high
    'Cos I was knee-high

    Always says 'Don't look in the rearview mirror'
    'Cos my Soul will simmer
    And sweat and get hot
    But she said stop

    So now I am looking straight
    Face like a plate
    But moveable still
    'Cos I am not unwell

    Thankyou my Nan
    I am so proud to be part of your clan

    by Shian Barker


    Our Planet Earth

    As the wind blows gently through the trees and the forest
    The birds are chirping as the sun begins to shine
    Morning dw slowly evaporates and turns into think fresh air
    Creatures great and small arise and start their day

    While back in the city, pollution is on its way
    For you (who) are unable to smell fresh air
    Creatures great and small arise and start their day

    While back in the cities pollution is on its way
    For you (who) are unable to smell the fresh air or see the blue skies from smog
    People go to work by means of transport available to them

    Not for the slightest moment or instance do they realise what is happening to our planet Earth or to our bodies
    Just stop and think, if we were to put rubbish in its proper place

    Plant trees in any unwanted space
    It would then be a start in the right direction
    For only then there would be no need to wear gas masks for protection

    This planet of ours is a beautiful place on land or sea
    If we were slowly to destroy it then where would we be?
    Imagine not being able to go sight-seeing, camping or experience life out among the wilderness

    Just stop and think, if we were to let rubbish spread and become a filthy disease. then all life would evenually cease
    Imagine not being able to hear birds singing, watching dophins swimming or koalas
    So please, if you love where you live and dwell, how about doing some good to the world, by recycling and do not litter
    That way your making sure out planet does not look bitter

    You never know, by keeping it clean, someone else might get the drift
    If you know what I mean

    by D. Beetson

    Sorry:

    For over 200 years
    Kooris have struggled every day
    Through the joys and the tears
    But we are here to stay

    Gubbas came and took our land
    And our children too
    We must make a stand
    That means me and you

    Gubbas can by the boat loads
    And bought all these laws
    Built bridges and their roads
    For a good cause

    Put our people in a chain
    And locked us away
    Now we can feel our pain
    When we gather and pray

    today is not different from then
    Every day is a worry
    But we will fight to the end
    Until Australia can say 'sorry'

    Rex Wightman, Boggabilla, NSW

    These were all published in the Koori Mail that can be accessed readily for any up to the minute info about the concerns of Aboriginal Australians at www dot koorimail dot com

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    Alaikumassalam,

    This is absurd, but I need to report here that I just bought a newspaper so as to put another Aboriginal poem into this thread. One that is written by a person who is not me. But I found on the page before the poem I chose, an article by a Gamilaroi women who is a researcher into Indigenous history. She writes, (and since it is published one must assume that she is overtly supported since the paper has a reputation for being hard to get material published in) that she believes that it should be necessary for any person who seems any lawful confirmation of Aboriginality to name all ancestors who identified as Aborigines, and all living relatives whom identify as Aborigines.

    So therein, by popular demand in the state of New South Wales in which I am born in, I have been firmly ruled out of all considerations of being able to access any legal documentation substantiating my Aboriginality.

    Therefore my own poems throughout all Muslim websites should not be considered as Aboriginal Australian, but rather as Muslim Australian.

    So in that I shall go ahead and post the poem I found in the news paper.

    My Sister, My Friend:

    I'd like to write you a love song
    For all the years of love
    And dedication to our hopes and dreaming

    I'd like to tell the world
    Of a woman born of royal blood
    Living out her days in song and rhyme

    But I don't want to disturb your dreaming
    You're on the other side of time
    Round a bend of the deep river
    That is Aboriginal land

    It's land that stretches backward
    It's land that stretches forth
    Beyond the boundaries of memory
    Beyond the boundaries of north
    Beyond the boundaries of southern sky
    Or the rising of the sun
    Beyond the misty hue of morning
    Of the dusk when day is done

    I'd like to celebrate you life
    Without mentioning your name
    I know that you were strong and brave
    You saw who played the game

    You lived life on the edge
    Pushing shackles
    Fighting pain
    Sharing an eternity
    Aboriginal again

    I will miss you in the winter
    But touch your spirit in the spring
    While you have left us for this season
    We know we will meet again

    And we don't begrudge your leaving
    You had so much to give
    You packed eons in your lifetime
    And you knew just how to live

    But I will always think of you when I think of possum skins and photographers
    I will celebrate you life with the fair skinned and dusky mob
    I will remember we can always find our way home if we are lost
    I will remember that we are undefeated even when we think that we are not

    Our Spirit indominable ever returning
    To the dust of our land
    Will rise up as eagles
    Calling every last lost Soul home
    'Til as people of the Dreaming
    We are one blood, in meaning

    (that is by Sharon Livermore of Kempsey NSW)
    Is Aboriginal Australian's poetry Islamic?

    Within the Realm of King Solomon
    Who could have known I was home grown
    An accuser's false allegation
    Did warrant only my Nation
    in apology for inconveniences
    its shaytan leeches
    who accuse
    my unconscious sleep
    of accusing you too cheep
    I will be selling for five times three
    centsiblity
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    Re: Is Aboriginal Australian's poetry Islamic?

    format_quote Originally Posted by F.Y. View Post
    Oh sis, I remembered the Aboriginal word used for God "Atnatu" (translates as someone who doesnt eat, sleep, drink, have kids, etc all the stuff we believe about Allah)- but I am unaware whether this word is used by a particular tribe or tribes within a particualr geographical location within Oz.

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    I learned a word for God from Central Australia today, from right in the Central Desert region:

    Wapirra

    It seems so odd for a word for God/Allah to begin with a "w" doesn't it?

    But then the language has plenty of "w" words.

    Human=Warlpiri or Warlbiri (any p is also a b)

    Earth=Walya

    Dreamtime=Jurrulpa

    remembering the the English Dreamtime is a sort of tricky translation

    Dreamtime=the state of mind entered in the place and at the time of Prayer

    It sort of means Prayer but more like Prayer-place-time.

    So when all these words are in the same context then Wapirra as a name for God makes total sense as a defining word of who you are with in mind during any Dreamtime experience. Yet it is also a word being used within a context in which it is comprehended always that Human use of language can not define the totality of who and what God is. Put all that together and the "w" makes sense.

    I was reading these words in a book about a senior elder Warlbiri who passed away last year the day after receiving a hundredth birthday letter from the Queen. He was a very important figure in the Yuendumu Baptist Church.

    I love being an Aborigine, and I love being because I love my people; and we all love being because we love the Earth and know that Allah loves us because we love Earth, and that is about being an Aborigine. That is what being an Aborigine means. Whenever I re-connect with my tradition I remember what I love better and why.

    (The English dictionary says aborigine=indigenous person, but Aborigine=indigenous person of Australia. I wonder why we never got any other name? Indigenous=native person plant or animal to a specific region.)

    Aboriginal language poetry is much more repetitive then most English poetry.

    waram
    Is Aboriginal Australian's poetry Islamic?

    Within the Realm of King Solomon
    Who could have known I was home grown
    An accuser's false allegation
    Did warrant only my Nation
    in apology for inconveniences
    its shaytan leeches
    who accuse
    my unconscious sleep
    of accusing you too cheep
    I will be selling for five times three
    centsiblity
    chat Quote


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