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    9/11 Anniversary Part One

    Another anniversary
    To remember and mourn
    Those that died on that day
    When the planes crashed
    In to the WTC and narrowly missed the Pentagon

    A day when terrorism arrived in the USA
    And the whole world changed
    War on terror was launched
    Invasion after invasion
    Only halted due to dogged resistance

    Iran and Syria survived
    Temporarily
    As the Neo-Con agenda
    Fell apart
    In the deserts of Iraq
    And the valleys of Afghanistan

    A Coalition was formed
    To storm
    And smoke out the enemy
    Brits were there as always
    Even though their public said “not in our name”

    Much has been done
    In the name of those 3000 that died
    And more yet to come
    All in the name of fighting and killing the new enemy
    Al Qaeda and Political Islam

    9/11
    Became a justification
    For almost anything
    Many now wonder
    Who planned and did it?

    Conspiracy theories
    Mistrust of the powers that be
    Refusal to follow blindly and accept
    Has been the result and Bushes legacy

    Millions of dollars were destroyed on that day
    But billions gained in oil revenues from Iraq
    Accountants balance the figures
    While American blood fills the rivers
    It’s the white/black working class boys and girls
    Who fight, are killed and wounded
    While the Neo-Cons and businessmen sign new deals
    And their kids spend daddies millions

    Every anniversary treated like a marketing strategy
    To unify and milk anger and grief
    Raise another army
    To go into the valley of death
    Where the enemy awaits and fights in stealth

    Over 4000 dead and 25 000 wounded
    Americans of course
    Iraqi dead in 6 figures
    But they don’t matter

    Even Saddam never killed this many
    But many call him a tyrant and murderer

    So how long will these wars continue?
    Trillions wasted
    As poverty and unemployment at home rises

    Hurricane Katrina exposed the soft underbelly
    America does not care for its own citizens

    Overseas it’s not looking good either
    Mujahideen getting stronger
    Courage coming with the downing of every plane
    Blowing up of every tank and soldier
    America no longer the boulder
    More like the pebble
    To be crushed under the feet of these so called rebels

    So what will you do
    The American public?
    Follow blindly
    the leader who fails to inspire
    or elect another to continue this butchery?

    Whose policies will bring the chicken’s home to roost?
    Or select a third brave option
    Isolation and non- interference in Muslims affairs

    Make your choice wisely
    Because the enemy is prepared to fight and die bravely
    But you already saw that on 9/11 2001.
    9/11 Anniversary Part One

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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    Its hard to fight with militans who hide among civilians. I would say that it was a draw. I think that it is the main reason of Arabs' hatred for Israel- because tiny Israel, which has almost as many citizens as Cairo, beat its arabic neighbours in every single was, sometimes fighting one against 3 or 4 .
    actually stop talking garbage like you usually do. israel beat rubbish arab armies supported by puppet arab goverments whom the ppl dont even support, so congrats you beat some of the worst armies in the world! hurra!!!!!

    and israel didnt win every single war, they didnt win twice in lebanon, they didnt win the sinia war in 73. so where did they win all their wars????

    and isnt funny tiny hezbollah outnumbered by up to 5-1 beat might israeli idf? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    this is going off topic but you went off topic with smart comment on israel and i am pleased to crush it.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by The_Prince View Post
    just like the usa atom bombed japan not once, but twice wheres the sorrow for the japanease???????????????? instead everyone justifies it
    Japan was in coalition with nazist in WWII. They commited huge crimes and artrocities in the lands that they occupied in Asia. Ask Chinese,Koreans. Those atomic bombs allowed to finish this war way sooner than it would be finished. those bombs actually saved more lifes than they killed.Anyway, its offtopic.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by The_Prince View Post
    actually stop talking garbage like you usually do. israel beat rubbish arab armies supported by puppet arab goverments whom the ppl dont even support, so congrats you beat some of the worst armies in the world! hurra!!!!!

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    Here i agree with you. Arabs did have the worst armies in world. And it didnt change much till now.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    Japan was in coalition with nazist in WWII. They commited huge crimes and artrocities in the lands that they occupied in Asia. Ask Chinese,Koreans. Those atomic bombs allowed to finish this war way sooner than it would be finished. those bombs actually saved more lifes than they killed.Anyway, its offtopic.
    indeed you are very sick justifying atomic bombs, dont ever complain if usa gets nuked then, what a double faced hypocrite, you seriously need alot of help big time.

    and then they come cry when they get attacked? ...........i dont know what to say seriously these ppl are so double faced and double standard its so sickening.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    Here i agree with you. Arabs did have the worst armies in world. And it didnt change much till now.
    too bad for ypu we dont rely on our armies hezbollah made it clear we dont need armies, we need well orginized and higly motivated trained millitias which is what is being done now, arab armies are changing tactics and forming millitia guerilla warfare groups so the army strength does not matter in the least, times of war are changing and soon all your mighty dynamite and fancy weapons will mean nothing in guerilla warfare USA and britian cant handle it in iraq, nor could israel in lebanon, its a sign of more things to come in terms of warfare in the mid-east in the future.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by The_Prince View Post
    indeed you are very sick justifying atomic bombs, dont ever complain if usa gets nuked then, what a double faced hypocrite, you seriously need alot of help big time.

    and then they come cry when they get attacked? ...........i dont know what to say seriously these ppl are so double faced and double standard its so sickening.
    america has commited huge crimes as well, so using your logic september 11 was justified or oh wait a minute did you just expose your raicist superiority complex where you think no one has the right to attack you for wrongs and injustice you have commited but you can attack others for wrongs and injustice they have commited? :rolleyes: hopeless really.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    so ladies and gents, according to aaron its ok for the USA to nuke and destroy and kill up to 200,000 ppl mainly innocent just because they were bad and commited some gross crimes. but if america is attacked for the very same reason we must all stand up and cry and show sympathy and bla bla bla.........

    notice folks theres only one party here that is condoning atrocities, i have not ONCE said sep 11 is okay because of the crimes the usa has commited, aaron boy meanwhile has condoned the massive slaughter and terrorist act against the japanease.............do you feel the love? lol then christians complain why so many turn atheists? perhaps because of these double standards you have where one second you say christ is love and love your enemy, then the next second you justify 2 atomic bombs killing 200,000 ppl? lol this would make good atheist humor on the bill maher show.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    we were talking about HOW TO STOP ANOTHER SEP 11?

    do you think you will stop it by justifying something worst than sep 11? an extemist will say hey look this guy justifies atomic bombs for the greator good and to stop evil, so why cant i bomb the hell out of his nation to do the same thing?

    so what a paradox, you want to stop september 11th? stop being an extremist yourself before you want world peace and an end to another sep 11 because right now you are the problem as well. how will you stop sep 11 when you justify the death of 200,000 ppl mainly innocent?!!!!!!!!! DONT YOU SEE THE CONTRADICTION? for god sakes wake up plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by The_Prince View Post
    so ladies and gents, according to aaron its ok for the USA to nuke and destroy and kill up to 200,000 ppl mainly innocent just because they were bad and commited some gross crimes. but if america is attacked for the very same reason we must all stand up and cry and show sympathy and bla bla bla.........

    notice folks theres only one party here that is condoning atrocities, i have not ONCE said sep 11 is okay because of the crimes the usa has commited, aaron boy meanwhile has condoned the massive slaughter and terrorist act against the japanease.............do you feel the love? lol then christians complain why so many turn atheists? perhaps because of these double standards you have where one second you say christ is love and love your enemy, then the next second you justify 2 atomic bombs killing 200,000 ppl? lol this would make good atheist humor on the bill maher show.
    You like talking much, but not listening. I didnt say that destroying of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was my dream come true. Heck, i wasnt even in world in those times. I just said that there was a war then, war that took lifes of millions of people, and it would take lifes of more people if it lasted more. Do you get what i mean? Now look, if you had an occassion to send an atomic bomb on nazi Germany in 1939 br the war began, and you would kill those 200 000 people, you would rescue those 50 millions that died and were killed in WWII.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    You like talking much, but not listening. I didnt say that destroying of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was my dream come true. Heck, i wasnt even in world in those times. I just said that there was a war then, war that took lifes of millions of people, and it would take lifes of more people if it lasted more. Do you get what i mean? Now look, if you had an occassion to send an atomic bomb on nazi Germany in 1939 br the war began, and you would kill those 200 000 people, you would rescue those 50 millions that died and were killed in WWII.
    bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla no offense all i hear is you justifyin two atomic bombs, and as i said, osama bin laden can use the same reasons u just did, i did sep 11 to stop their evils and get back at them........so you see? you are an extemist yourself and not the solution, whats the difference between u 2? he will bomb someone who he feels is evil, you just justified it and would obviously do the same. so you are not the solution i am afraid.

    and btw what are you? do you feel life and humans are so worthless you can go just kill 200,000 like that? your not god to decide humanitys fate by taking fate and human lives into your own hands SO AGAIN THIS EXAMPLE YOU BRING FAILS because your not in the position to make such choices the killing of ONE INNOCENT LIFE is enough to send you to hell, and now you want 200,000 dead?! you sure are no christian
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    AARON: dropping 2 nukes was needed to stop the greater evil and end japans gross crimes

    Osama Bin Laden: we wont stop bombing you until we get our security and we bomb you for your crimes.

    does anyone see the similarities? osama said he wont stop until the muslims get security, which means he attacked the usa to stop what he percieves to be an evil being commited against muslims. and as aaron says:

    AARON: dropping 2 nukes was needed to stop the greater evil

    my oh my and you want to stop another sep 11?
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by The_Prince View Post
    bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla no offense all i hear is you justifyin two atomic bombs, and as i said, osama bin laden can use the same reasons u just did, i did sep 11 to stop their evils and get back at them........so you see? you are an extemist yourself and not the solution, whats the difference between u 2? he will bomb someone who he feels is evil, you just justified it and would obviously do the same. so you are not the solution i am afraid.

    and btw what are you? do you feel life and humans are so worthless you can go just kill 200,000 like that? your not god to decide humanitys fate by taking fate and human lives into your own hands SO AGAIN THIS EXAMPLE YOU BRING FAILS because your not in the position to make such choices the killing of ONE INNOCENT LIFE is enough to send you to hell, and now you want 200,000 dead?! you sure are no christian
    i didnt say that it was ok to nuke Japan.I just explained you the situation and i tried to understand why USA nuked them, just like you tried to understand why Osama prepared 9/11 but you still dont justify it, dont you Prince?
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    no i dont justify it, but hey buddyyyyyyyy you arent giving the situation! you know your not!

    you gave the reason as to why japan was nuked not to educate me on why it happened, but to state the reasons as a means to justify the event, you know you did!

    you even then asked me if i would kill 200,000 ppl to stop a greater evil, so you obviously believed it was okay because the 2 nukes stoped the war and more killings (which isnt an actual fact since we dont know if many many many many many more ppl wud die if the nukes werent dropped, this is an assumption to justify the nukes. nazis were beaten with nukes, so why not japan)
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by The_Prince View Post
    no i dont justify it, but hey buddyyyyyyyy you arent giving the situation! you know your not!

    you gave the reason as to why japan was nuked not to educate me on why it happened, but to state the reasons as a means to justify the event, you know you did!

    you even then asked me if i would kill 200,000 ppl to stop a greater evil, so you obviously believed it was okay because the 2 nukes stoped the war and more killings (which isnt an actual fact since we dont know if many many many many many more ppl wud die if the nukes werent dropped, this is an assumption to justify the nukes. nazis were beaten with nukes, so why not japan)
    You were wondering why did Osama prepared 9/11 and you said that those were political reasons, you mentioned that US supported Israel and had troops in Saudi Arabia. And i didnt say that you justify this. Then i tried to understand why did US drop two A-bombs on Japan. And it doesnt mean that i adore this decison or justidy. I just try to understand why they did it. If you dont get it, its not my problem.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    You were wondering why did Osama prepared 9/11 and you said that those were political reasons, you mentioned that US supported Israel and had troops in Saudi Arabia. And i didnt say that you justify this. Then i tried to understand why did US drop two A-bombs on Japan. And it doesnt mean that i adore this decison or justidy. I just try to understand why they did it. If you dont get it, its not my problem.
    you are lying to me, and everyone on the forum, plz aaron dont think i am stupid, you and i know you tried to justify the nukes it was so obvious its laughable you now try and act like you didnt! be honest DUDE be honest.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by The_Prince View Post
    you are lying to me, and everyone on the forum, plz aaron dont think i am stupid, you and i know you tried to justify the nukes it was so obvious its laughable you now try and act like you didnt! be honest DUDE be honest.
    Dont put in my mouth words that i didnt say. I also can say- Prince you justifed 9/11 attack, you are an islamofascists. Anyway, get back to the topic, Japan isnt the issue here.So i wont speak about it more, if you dont understand me its not my problem.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    Dont put in my mouth words that i didnt say. I also can say- Prince you justifed 9/11 attack, you are an islamofascists. Anyway, get back to the topic, Japan isnt the issue here.So i wont speak about it more, if you dont understand me its not my problem.
    LOL sure u can EVERYTIME i brought their reasons I SAID IT DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT, u never did until i exposed ur faulty extremist thinking, badaboommmmmmmmm u lose again so no u cant i feel gooddddddd nanananananananan i feel gooddddddddd nananananana
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    Call me an extremist all you want, but I believe Harry Truman chose the lesser of two evils. Drop these experimental bombs that had the chance of ending the war with Japan or commit to a horrible invasion of Japan which would have been hell on earth the likes of which two atomic bombs can't even match. Yes, two big explosions seem horrible and obviously more dramatic, but the invasion of Japan would have led to far more deaths than those who perished in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. It isn't about "justifying", it is about reality.
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    Re: 9/11 Anniversary Part One

    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    Call me an extremist all you want, but I believe Harry Truman chose the lesser of two evils. Drop these experimental bombs that had the chance of ending the war with Japan or commit to a horrible invasion of Japan which would have been hell on earth the likes of which two atomic bombs can't even match. Yes, two big explosions seem horrible and obviously more dramatic, but the invasion of Japan would have led to far more deaths than those who perished in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. It isn't about "justifying", it is about reality.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    Call me an extremist all you want, but I believe Harry Truman chose the lesser of two evils. Drop these experimental bombs that had the chance of ending the war with Japan or commit to a horrible invasion of Japan which would have been hell on earth the likes of which two atomic bombs can't even match. Yes, two big explosions seem horrible and obviously more dramatic, but the invasion of Japan would have led to far more deaths than those who perished in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. It isn't about "justifying", it is about reality.
    Are you serious? Do you know the long term effects of atomic bombs? NO invasion can ever have a more worse effect then atomic bombs as a matter of fact. To think otherwise is just truly unbelievable...

    Anyone who justifies those bombs are a disgrace to humanity, far worse then those who support the 9/11 instances.
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    Fight in the way of God, against those who fight against you, drive them out of the places they have drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. Fight them, until persecution is no more, and Religion is for God. But if they stop, let there be no war.

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