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    Salaam!

    Over the past year or two I have flip-flopped between Christianity and Islam. However now I have chosen Islam as my path. I have not recited the Shahada this time (I have many times before, but reverted back to Christianity) because I feel guilty about doing it the other times and going back on my word to Allah and turning back to Christianity. So I will not recite it this time until I am completely sure about my faith, as I do not wish to disgrace or betray Allah by bearing false witness and going back on my Shahada.

    The reason I went back to Christianity all those times, honestly, was because of Western propaganda against Islam. I felt guilty being a Muslim and I felt that I was somehow the enemy of my fellow Americans, because that is how Muslims are so often portrayed on television and in the cinema. While I know that that is not true, my faith was easily shaken because of my fear of how others would see me. I understand that was weakness and immature and I have repented to Allah time and time again for it.

    My question is, has anyone else experienced this feeling of guilt when reverting to Islam from Christianity? Also, I just wanted to add that reading the Koran has definitely had more of an impact on my life than the Bible has. I've recently had my heart broken and shattered by a heartless woman, and just by reading the Koran I felt at peace inside and was able to quickly recover. The Koran is truly a holy book, much more so than the Bible!
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    Wayward soul, if you have firm belief that Islam is the truth - then you should say your shahadah. Islam is to believe in the heart, and to profess it on the tongue, and to practise it with your body. Keeping faith in your heart alone is not enough.

    So if you are convinced by its truth, then say the shahadah; I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is His servant and Messenger. - Say; Ash hadu an laa illaaha illa Allah, Muhammadun Rasool Allah.



    Secondly; you might find it hard to follow Islam due to your strangeness in the sight of others. But ask yourself; wasn't Jesus a stranger in the presence of his people? The majority being Jews or Romans, whereas he was the only one upon the truth.


    I recommend you read this article;

    Strangeness of the Strangers;

    Strangeness and the Strangers


    It will make you realise that being strange is a sign of belief in Allah and His message of truth, and that being strange is a sign of future good news.

    You might find this relevant too;
    http://www.islamicboard.com/manners-...nt-muslim.html



    If you believe Islam is the truth, then say that with your tongue, and practise it with your body. Allah is your witness, and He will support those who are sincere in His cause.
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    It all comes on to what maes you revert in the first place. If you believe trly in your heart that Go has spoken to you through the Qur'an and his laws need to be followe, then the west could do whatever they liked and you wouldn't falter in your belief of what God wants from you
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    This e-book should be of relevance to you...

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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    hi bro i would like to tell you that people around you will not benefit you in the here after
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    ..if u revert just bcoz of media may b its high time u qs ur eeman ..n studied more about islam...so dat ur heart is satisfioed n u knbow what when is wrong...n how smthing is correct.....i tel u brother...its imp dat eeman enters ur heart n once it is dere u wil find peace n strenghth...u qs urself..y do u want to b muslim???if u think islam is an anemy y u embrace islam n if its not..y lisetn wat de media says....
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    There is no need to flip flop brother. There is only one correct path and that is the one shwon by our beloved Prophet saw.
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    Brother stick to your faith in Islam because Allah swt is the only God and Muhammad is the final messenger. You can respect all religions but the thing is Allah swt is testing you with trials you need to be strong bro. Also do not feel ashamed of your religion your religion is a big part of you bro you must be proud to be a Muslim and as a matter of fact Islam promotes good things so by you being Muslim you're also promoting good things and it's helpful for everybody in your community. salam.
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    If the quran gives yoiu peace it can be the light of falsehood for the Bible warns that satan can decieve as such. What satan cannopt do is replicate real Love but he can and does all else to steal people from God.
    Two questions for those who seek the truth
    what new WISOM is in the quran that was not already in the Bible
    and why did such a small work as the quran resut from the only prophet who had to go into a cave for his revelations and had apparently 23 years of revelations compared to all the Biblical prophets who had only one or tweo revelations yet produced much more truth and profundity and the bible is much bigger than the quran, The Bible is spiritual too and only truely undertandable by the grace of God's holy spirit.
    The Holy spirit is the one true Comforter and it is such a rich and Glorious feeling when God's Holy Spirit is with you

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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    format_quote Originally Posted by freethinking View Post
    If the quran gives yoiu peace it can be the light of falsehood for the Bible warns that satan can decieve as such.
    The only real satanists are those who persist in ignorance and falsehood!

    5:41 (Asad) O APOSTLE! Be not grieved by those who vie with one another in denying the truth: such as those [50] who say with their mouths, "We believe," the while their hearts do not believe; and such of the Jewish faith as eagerly listen to any falsehood, eagerly listen to other people without having come to thee [for enlightenment]. [51] They distort the meaning of the [revealed] words, taking them out of their context, saying [to themselves], "If such-and-such [teaching] is vouchsafed unto you, accept it; but if it is not vouchsafed unto you, be on your guard!" [52] [Be not grieved by them-] for if God wills anyone to be tempted to evil, thou canst in no wise prevail with God in his behalf. [53] It is they whose hearts God is not willing to cleanse. Theirs shall be ignominy in this world, and awesome suffering in the life to come-
    What satan cannopt do is replicate real Love but he can and does all else to steal people from God.
    and I believe that is indeed the case of christians who don't worship God, but a man named Jesus as they were instructed by the dissolute and non-chosen apostle 'Saul'
    Two questions for those who seek the truth
    what new WISOM is in the quran that was not already in the Bible
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    and why did such a small work as the quran resut from the only prophet who had to go into a cave for his revelations and had apparently 23 years of revelations compared to all the Biblical prophets who had only one or tweo revelations yet produced much more truth and profundity and the bible is much bigger than the quran, The Bible is spiritual too and only truely undertandable by the grace of God's holy spirit.
    The Quran is no small work, it is comparable to the bible (sans the OT) which you already do not follow in commandments, however content is an entirely different challenge. Since the bible isn't even up to par with classic fables. Also I'd never compare the Quran to the bible, if anything at all it would be compared to ahadith, since the Quran is the living word of God while the bible is a collection written by nameless charlatans -- the ahadith themselves have a proper chain of Isnad which is more than anything the bible and its authors could possibly hope for by way of integrity.. we won't touch upon the absurdities that lie therein.. you know along the lines of:

    Lot had sex with his two daughters. One might even conclude that he had God's help in this, as he was both very old and very drunk at the time. There was no punishment for any of them. On the contrary, both daughters were rewarded with sons who founded nations (Gen 19:33-38). Earlier (Gen 19:8), Lot had offered his daughters to be used by a mob. And Peter said that Lot was a "righteous man" (2Peter 2:8).

    Islam is a complete way of life, spiritual, political, economical, social structure, it impacts and covers every aspect of man's life.. while the bible is much ado about nothing for even your basic tenet which is the death of the self-immolating man/god isn't even mentioned by Jesus (p) he prayed according to you then forsake himself, he impregnated a young child with himself, was born to suckle of her and then die.. what sort of nonsense do you pass for a religion and then come speak of the devil.

    May the one true God, the God of Abraham and Moses and all the righteous guide him.. and you, well good luck to you!

    to the OP to answer your Q, we all have our moments of weakness but you should only put the love of God and fear of God only in your heart.. people are just people, they are mindless goats the more they B.S the more animal like they become and that really shouldn't faze you!


    all the best


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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    format_quote Originally Posted by Wayward Soul View Post
    Salaam!

    Over the past year or two I have flip-flopped between Christianity and Islam. However now I have chosen Islam as my path. I have not recited the Shahada this time (I have many times before, but reverted back to Christianity) because I feel guilty about doing it the other times and going back on my word to Allah and turning back to Christianity. So I will not recite it this time until I am completely sure about my faith, as I do not wish to disgrace or betray Allah by bearing false witness and going back on my Shahada.

    The reason I went back to Christianity all those times, honestly, was because of Western propaganda against Islam. I felt guilty being a Muslim and I felt that I was somehow the enemy of my fellow Americans, because that is how Muslims are so often portrayed on television and in the cinema. While I know that that is not true, my faith was easily shaken because of my fear of how others would see me. I understand that was weakness and immature and I have repented to Allah time and time again for it.

    My question is, has anyone else experienced this feeling of guilt when reverting to Islam from Christianity? Also, I just wanted to add that reading the Koran has definitely had more of an impact on my life than the Bible has. I've recently had my heart broken and shattered by a heartless woman, and just by reading the Koran I felt at peace inside and was able to quickly recover. The Koran is truly a holy book, much more so than the Bible!
    Brother

    I cannot comment on you doing , just want to suggest you one thing

    I think you already know in your heart that Islam is true and you just fear from people that what they think or you might get harm

    If you really fear that you can get harm , so just donot disclose your acceptence to Islam yet to those people whom you feel fear or damange , and in your heart and private and those people who you know can disclose your feeling or even to least just donot disclose it to any body yet and accept it in your heart i think its much better option for you then what you might be doing.

    May Allah guide us all to the ture path
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    format_quote Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ View Post

    he impregnated a young child with himself

    You play your own faith when you say that. If the Qu'ran says Jesus was born of a virgin.. explain to me how he was conceived..
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    format_quote Originally Posted by B_M View Post
    You play your own faith when you say that. If the Qu'ran says Jesus was born of a virgin.. explain to me how he was conceived..

    The same way Adam was created!

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    Dear bro,
    You have to understand that True Islam and True Christianity are both Islam. There is only one religion which is Islam and 3 messages with different rules, but with one message. All the reasons you mentioned are not related to Islam. So you have to drop all of them and remember that you can't please everyone, espcially if it were at the cost of true religion.
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    format_quote Originally Posted by B_M View Post
    If the Qu'ran says Jesus was born of a virgin.. explain to me how he was conceived..
    By way of God using His omnipotence to override the need for there to be a father at all, perhaps by making a sperm materialize out of thin air in one of her ova or perhaps by altering the way the way that particular ovum worked. In any case there was no father, which is a very natural, logical, intuitive corrolary to there being no father: it is Christianity, not Islam, that has a lot of 'splain' to do in this regard.
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    format_quote Originally Posted by B_M View Post
    You play your own faith when you say that. If the Qu'ran says Jesus was born of a virgin.. explain to me how he was conceived..

    3:59: The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.

    So as you can see God states that Jesus and Adam are similar in his sight, however so what does that mean?

    Jesus' similitude to God is that of Adam, means that just like Adam, Jesus was also created in a miraculous way, through a virgin birth and having no father. This was very similar to Adam, Adam was created without a mother or father.

    And it is this that God is emphasizing, how both these men were created in a very similar fashion, without having parents, and without the act of sexual intercourse. It also refute claims of him being divine. It is very important to remember this point, that the context is also meant to refute any claims of Jesus' divinity, and one common argument and claim brought up to show Jesus is divine is that of his virgin birth.

    Hence God precisely brings up Adam and the similarity in his creation and coming into this world with that of Jesus, to refute the weak claims of Christians, because if Jesus is divine for a virgin birth with no father, then Adam must be double divine because he has no father or mother! So therefore God is refuting this silly claim, and making it clear to the believers that both Jesus and Adam are similar in their creation, which did not come about through sexual intercourse, but came about directly from God himself.

    If the claim is made that Jesus is God's son because he was created without a father, then the same claim befits Adam even more. However, since such a claim regarding Adam is obviously false, then making the same claim about `Jesus is even more false.

    Furthermore, by mentioning these facts, God emphasizes His ability, by creating

    1Adam without a male or female,
    2.Eve from a male without a female,
    3.Jesus from a female without a male,

    compared to His creating the rest of creation from male and female. This is why God said in Surah Maryam,

    (And We made him a sign for mankind) [19: 21].

    ((This is) the truth from your Lord, so be not of those who doubt.)

    meaning, this is the only true story about `Jesus, and what is beyond truth save falsehood God next commands His Messenger to call those who defy the truth, regarding `Jesus, to the curse
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    format_quote Originally Posted by B_M View Post
    You play your own faith when you say that. If the Qu'ran says Jesus was born of a virgin.. explain to me how he was conceived..

    Do you believe in God?
    if yes, go next

    Do you believe God created this universe, a universe that is vast vast beyond comprehension?
    if yes, go next

    Do you believe God created Adam (as) out of nothing (or from clay, will you) with no father, no mother?
    if yes, go next

    and then now you are asking that it is not possible for God to create Jesus (as) without a father?

    I think you are the one who should examine your own faith.
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    format_quote Originally Posted by freethinking View Post
    If the quran gives yoiu peace it can be the light of falsehood for the Bible warns that satan can decieve as such.
    Lol, is that what they are telling you?

    This book, preaching about taking in orphans, giving to the poor, taking care of parents, working for widows/elderly, praying 5 times a day... "the Satan can be very decieving" - And Christians buy that?

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    So by God's command, Jesus was conceived..

    So in Luke when it says 'the power of the Most High will overshadow you'.. nobody here feels it's the same difference?

    Same concept, different terminology, no?
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    Re: Just a question about Islam...

    format_quote Originally Posted by B_M View Post
    So by God's command, Jesus was conceived.. So in Luke when it says 'the power of the Most High will overshadow you'.. nobody here feels it's the same difference? Same concept, different terminology, no?

    No.. aside from the dubious sources of your bible and lack of textual integrity or consensus on what actually took place.. We don't know who you consider the most high?.. it seems most of you delegate the position of God to a middle eastern man named Jesus!

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