i went there and my cousin who worked there guided us around, when we went to the supermarket he took us to the refrigerator and (possibly because of our past) said in a conspiratory tone: "you've got to try this - it will zone you out", it was very difficult to explain to him that it said 0.0% alcohol,
it's funny how people drink it just to imitate kuffar
I'm not sure about that. Is there a specific reason they should be?
Although, on many occasions, they tend to be not Halaal. I once heard that "Monster" uses cow sperm. Would anyone even want to drink it after hearing that?
And besides, they stunt your growth.
Ah do you have evidence to support your claims? O____o
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
I live in Saudi Arabia and I can proudly say that they only allow/export hallal drinks here.
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
i went there and my cousin who worked there guided us around, when we went to the supermarket he took us to the refrigerator and (possibly because of our past) said in a conspiratory tone: "you've got to try this - it will zone you out", it was very difficult to explain to him that it said 0.0% alcohol
Interesting that the drinks say 0.0% alcohol. Shame they don't add in another decimal place to give the true story. While they are marketed, presented and classified as alcohol free, they are, in reality, very low alcohol drinks, typically containing anywhere upto 0.5% alcohol.
The Holsten pictured above contains 0.02% alcohol. Becks, which also sells in Saudi contains 0.05%.
There are truly alcohol free beers, such as Kirin Free, produced by the Kirin Brewery Company of Japan, which contains 0.00% alcohol, i.e. no alcohol. This beer is produced without fermentation, while the low alcohol ones mentioned above, start off life being brewed and fermented, and are actually conventional beer but with the alcohol subsequently boiled/filtered off. However this will always leave a trace of alcohol behind.
Interesting that the Japanese are drinking truly alcohol free, while Muslims are not.
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
it's funny how people drink it just to imitate kuffar
I agree with the sentiment here. If the Kuffaar do it, Muslims feel they must imitate it. It's almost like an inferiority complex, that somehow everything they do is better, so we must copy them to not be left behind, to not appear "backwards", to fit in, to look the part, to look "modern" etc. So if kaafirs drink alcohol, we have got to somehow appear as though we are drinking it too. Laa howla wa laa quwwata illaa billaah.
It reminds me of this hadeeth:
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported Allah's Messenger as saying: You would tread the same path as was trodden by those before you inch by inch and step by step so much so that if they had entered into the hole of the lizard, you would follow them in this also. We said: Allah's Messenger, do you mean Jews and Christians (by your words)" those before you"? He said: Who else (than those two religious groups)? [Sahih Muslim, book 34, hadith no 6448]
format_quote Originally Posted by Darth Ultor
is regular grape juice okay?
Yes. This is fine. We have to be vigilant about clear apple juice though. There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it is basically cloudy apple juice clarified by passing through a filter to make it clear. The filters are often gelatin, which can be animal in origin, and it can leave a residue in the final product. So we have to check with the manufacturers to make sure there is no animal residue in their clear apple juice, or that they use a different clarifying method. Better still, to avoid all this, drink it cloudy.
Interestingly, wine and beers undergo the same filtration - that is why vegetarians won't drink any old wine or beer, but one that is specifically marked as being suitable for vegetarians, as most of them aren't, due to these animal residues from the filters. So the conventionally produced beers above, contain not only small amounts of alcohol, but possibly non-halal animal residues as well.
Stunningly beautiful adhaan from the Dome of the Rock in Masjid ul Aqsa Download (right click and choose "save target/link as").
This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is only One God, and that those of understanding may take heed (14:52)
Indeed Allah knows, and you know not (16: 74, part)
There's a difference between 'alcohol free' and 'non-alcoholic' to those of you who remember anything from your organic chemistry courses, removing alcohol by way of distillation will never make any substance 100% non-alcoholic, the same way your disinfectant can't kill 100% of the bacteria.
It isn't about what will intoxicate you or what won't simply put 'ma askar katheroh fa qaleeloh haram'
would you have a drink knowing it only had trace urine? like 0.05% urine won't kill you, but if you find that unpalatable at any percent even if completely removed by a chemical process it won't be acceptable to you at 1% or 100% that is how most practicing Muslims view any form of alcohol in the beverage..
Although I dont really drink energy drinks, that made me never want to drink it.
and I like the comment karimum made, we should go back and ask for sources before passing on information were not sure of.
-Allah Knows Best
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