Who's Al Abu Bakar RA , Is That The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

format_quote Originally Posted by aaj

Brother,

That book is not reliable. The fact it had so much shirk and biddah in it to begin with and the so called "scholars" and "alims" and the "imams" in asia use that more so than the Quran and hadith is troublesome. It doesn't matter how many times it was revised. They should be referencing the Quran and Sunnah, not that book as their one and only source. Also, why would you share unverified stories? what benefit is in that? If we want people to take lessons from stories outside of the Quran and Sunnah then why not make one up yourself?

My dear brother, i am fully aware of how the book fazail e a'mal is religiously quoted and often get into worked up debates with people over it when they quote something wierd, i too notice the rigidity of certain people on it, but we must be aware that if they quote something good from it, r even from a frederick forsyth book, we should file it as positive, after all, it is human understanding and if we discarded all knowledge besides quran and hadith, we'd be in a bit of a rut.

The fact that the brother quoted it and we were able to do an autopsy on the quote increased the understanding of the brother and any other observer.
We must be aware that our aim is to learn and teach, and it is easier to learn and teach when you are able to understand and relate with the people you are conversing with.

Take for instance zakir naik, the brother even reads pagan books and convinces pagans of the truth with it.

As long as humans write, they will make mistakes, but if we threw it all away, we'd lose the observations of many thinkers.

The Quran is indeed the most stable and truthful book, and the ahadith compilations are indeed the next best, but we still sometimes find things falsely attributed to the Prophet pbuh in the very sahihain.
then there are still things like ibn ishaaq etc and ibn kathir who have narrated the weakest of chains and even ahl al kitaab, however the more knowledgable scholars don't gun them for it and appreciate the fact that they preserved the weak stuff for us to sift today.

There are thousands of ahadith which never made it anywhere near the sahihs and neither to the weaker books, yet, some of them are turning out to be correct,
it's a case of giving priority to what's more stable though and i am in no way meaning to be patronizing towards you, i recognise your indigation and zeal in upholding the truth.


52.*Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before you, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom:
53.*That He may make the suggestions thrown in by Satan, but a trial for those in whose hearts is a disease and who are hardened of heart: verily the wrong-doers are in a schism far (from the Truth):
54.*And that those on whom knowledge has been bestowed may learn that the (Qur'an) is the Truth from thy Lord, and that they may believe therein, and their hearts may be made humbly (open) to it: for verily Allah is the Guide of those who believe, to the Straight Way.
55.*Those who reject Faith will not cease to be in doubt concerning (Revelation) until the Hour (of Judgment) comes suddenly upon them, or there comes to them the Penalty of a Day of Disaster.
56.*On that Day of Dominion will be that of Allah. He will judge between them: so those who believe and work righteous deeds will be in Gardens of Delight.
57.*And for those who reject Faith and deny our Signs, there will be a humiliating Punishment.

From Quran Surah Al Hajj Chapter 52.

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

My dear sister, i am fully aware of how the book fazail e a'mal is religiously quoted and often get into worked up debates with people over it when they quote something wierd, i too notice the rigidity of certain people on it, but we must be aware that if they quote something good from it, r even from a frederick forsyth book, we should file it as positive, after all, it is human understanding and if we discarded all knowledge besides quran and hadith, we'd be in a bit of a rut.

The fact that the brother quoted it and we were able to do an autopsy on the quote increased the understanding of the brother and any other observer.
We must be aware that our aim is to learn and teach, and it is easier to learn and teach when you are able to understand and relate with the people you are conversing with.

Take for instance zakir naik, the brother even reads pagan books and convinces pagans of the truth with it.

As long as humans write, they will make mistakes, but if we threw it all away, we'd lose the observations of many thinkers.

The Quran is indeed the most stable and truthful book, and the ahadith compilations are indeed the next best, but we still sometimes find things falsely attributed to the Prophet pbuh in the very sahihain.
then there are still things like ibn ishaaq etc and ibn kathir who have narrated the weakest of chains and even ahl al kitaab, however the more knowledgable scholars don't gun them for it and appreciate the fact that they preserved the weak stuff for us to sift today.

There are thousands of ahadith which never made it anywhere near the sahihs and neither to the weaker books, yet, some of them are turning out to be correct,
it's a case of giving priority to what's more stable though and i am in no way meaning to be patronizing towards you, i recognise your indigation and zeal in upholding the truth.

So aaj is sister or brother?

format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam

So aaj is sister or brother?

Lol i'm editing it
We had a sister on here who was called "arj" and i got used to it.
jzk

format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam

Please answer the question:

"Do you accept Imaam ibn al-Qayyim رحمة الله عليه? Shaykh-ul-Islaam ibn Taymiyyah's most famous student? What do you think of him and his writings? Is he trustworthy? Reliable?"

I am uncertain as to whom you are asking the question, but will tell you what i think in case the question is directed at me,

I believe that Ibn Al Qayyim (may Allah be pleased with him) was a knowledgeable scholar, that he was sincere, that he was gifted with intelligence, and that he did his best to convey what he had learned of the truth to the best of his ability.
do i believe he was free from imperfection? No, not even the Prophets are free from perfection, total perfection is an attribute exclusive to Allah, the most high. But the son of Adam ibn al Qayyim? I believe that he deserves to be acknowledged as being amongst the great intellectuals of his age and of many ages and pray for his elevation in paradise, which is where i hope he belongs.

The question was for brother aaj, who has mistakenly been called sister twice in one thread...That's not good.

format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam

The question was for brother aaj, who has mistakenly been called sister twice in one thread...That's not good.

What's not good?

SubhaanAllah

Allaahu akbar

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

What's not good?

Mistakenly being called sister twice in a single thread.

format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam

Mistakenly being called sister twice in a single thread.

And how should penitence be made?

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

Source please, qul haatoo burhaanakum in kuntum suaadiqeen
i accept the fact that "pbuh" specifically means: peace be upon him in english, though the arabic translates as something like "prayers of Allah be upon him and eternal peace" , however, the latter becomes impractical when handwriting or sending short messages.

Isn't saying "prayers of Allah be upon........" Shirk? Cuz Allah never needs praying.