Who's Al Abu Bakar RA , Is That The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam

Brother, are you asking a question, or implicitly stating that you believe those names mentioned in the Qur'aan are in reference to the Khulafaa-e-Raashideen?

They are completely different people.

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format_quote Originally Posted by Zamtsa

Is Al Abu Bakar RA , The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Is Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi , actually is Al 'Umar Ibn Al Khattab RA ?

Is Al 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , actually is Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

Go on bro Hamzah, you're the scholar

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

Brother, you gave us a long lecture on the meaning of fatwa and i appreciate that, please try to understand what i am trying to convey to you when i tell you that Islaam encompasses all aspects of life, and as humans, we all have different levels of knowledge on any given subject, and we give advice to the best of our knowledge when asked about something, whether it is our children, a neighbour, a shopkeeper that one idly chats with, or an injured person.
If we know the answer, we provide it, if we're uncertain, we do our best given the circumstances in obedience to Allah, if it is an issue that can wait, we obviously refer it to someone more knowledgeable, and above every knower, there is a knower - until Allah.
I am in no way claiming that those people who have studied fiqh and received a certificate are necessarily foolish, i am telling you that since the day Allah swt put Adam (as) on earth and through the time of Muhammad the final messenger of Allah to mankind may the blesings and peace of Allah be upon him, people have always had to do their best to obey Allah, to gain knowledge, and to make decisions.

When my son comes and asks me a question, i have to do my best to give him a solid and honest opinion, if i am uncertain, i check with a more knowledgeable source, if i get a bunch of differing opinions, then i still have to contemplate and process it whilst being honest and sincere in seeking to obey and please Allah.

If it is a medical issue and i'm uncertain, i might check with someone who's knowledgeable in medicine, if the doctor doesn't even check my child's heartbeat despite her complaint of severe chest pain and prescribes a load of drugs, i throw away the prescription and go get an ecg done (since Allah has made it lawful) and ask someone who can read an ecg printout to tell me their observations, now it is the duty of the person doing the ecg to get a correct reading and explain honestly, if they give me a false reading and i find no other lawful avenue of checking, i put my trust in Allah to judge and give her the foods which i know to be good for the heart and keep the mosquito coil and cigarette smoke away from her.

I hope you understand what i'm saying......ultimately we are all required to use our brains, otherwise nobody would have accepted Islam due to the pope or priest telling them that Islaam is false and nobody would have followed 'eesaa because their scholars told them that he was a devil's servant for healing a man on the sabbath.

The task of scholars is to become knowledgeable in their fields and learn as much as they can to their last breath and to be sincere and truthful in issuing opinions whilst obeying and pleasing Allah, however we make sure to be truthful and sincere in our acceptance of what they say.
Even Sheikh Hasinah has scholars.
When an imaam stated at jumu'ah that it is kabeerah gunah (major sin) not to have a beard, most of the congrgation must have believed him, but i knew it as false due to the fact that i had studied a bit if you see what i mean, and that doesn't mean that he doesn't have a certificate or that i am the most knowledgeable person.

Tualab al 'ilm fareedatun 'alaa kulli Muslim.

Know that neither the prophets, nor the sahaabah, nor the initial taabi'een had certificates, the certificate is a document to show that one has reached a certain level of study, the study is for the deen, not vice versa.

Also look into the situation and differing opinions in the split between "'Ali (ra) and Mu'aawiyah.... to understand the human nature on rulings.

And this:

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/ibn-baaz...-saudi-arabia/

http://www.memrijttm.org/jaysh-al-fa...-in-syria.html

We're looking at it from two different angles: You're right in what you're saying. What you're saying is that Allaah Ta`aalaa has gifted Insaan with `Aql (intellect) and that they should use it. They should not be like the Jews and Christians who blindly followed their priests and Rabbis. You are correct in saying so. Each people will be taken to account themselves and will not be able to use someone else as an excuse for why they did wrong.

What you are giving is not Fatwaa in the sense of the word as used by the `Ulamaa. Fatwaa implies Ijtihaad (i.e. deriving rulings which are not clearly mentioned in Qur'aan and Sunnah). Am I correct so far? You don't believe that every person is allowed to do Ijtihaad, yes? What you are doing is simply stating the Islaamic ruling (which you've learnt) to your children, or family, etc. You aren't doing Ijtihaad.

format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam

We're looking at it from two different angles: You're right in what you're saying. What you're saying is that Allaah Ta`aalaa has gifted Insaan with `Aql (intellect) and that they should use it. They should not be like the Jews and Christians who blindly followed their priests and Rabbis. You are correct in saying so. Each people will be taken to account themselves and will not be able to use someone else as an excuse for why they did wrong.

What you are giving is not Fatwaa in the sense of the word as used by the `Ulamaa. Fatwaa implies Ijtihaad (i.e. deriving rulings which are not clearly mentioned in Qur'aan and Sunnah). Am I correct so far? You don't believe that every person is allowed to do Ijtihaad, yes? What you are doing is simply stating the Islaamic ruling (which you've learnt) to your children, or family, etc. You aren't doing Ijtihaad.

It would be better to understand how the term ijtihaad should be understood. From what i understand from the term ijtihaad, it comes from jahada, which gives it a texture of wrestling, such as wrestling with a scenario in order to make accurate sense of it, even if wording is absent, all other knowledge should be utilized with wisdom to get to the spirit of what is correct in Allah's sight.
Let's look at some scenarios:

Would the brother who prayed towards Al Ka'bah before the turning of the Qiblah to Al Ka'bah have been practicing ijtihaad?

Or say for instance the brother who rolled himself in the dust before the verses of tayammum were revealed.

Or Aa-ishah (ra) when she did ijtihaad and prayed four rakahs during journey because she was comfortable completing the prayer in it's fullness for Allah's sake, although she knew that 2 rakahs was a concession by Allah. (It is no blame on you if you shorten your prayers) rather than (pray two units on journey).

Or the people who prayed sualaat al 'asr before reaching Banu Quraydhah after the siege of the trench because they understood the command "laa yusualliyaani ahadakum Al 'Asr illaa fee banee quraydhah" to mean hasten to Quraydhah without wasting time? (All interpretations being truthfully and sincerely to please Allah the most high of course).

I think those scenarios should help us to understand the nature of the term better.
Please look into it and think it over.
Your input is valued.

format_quote Originally Posted by Zamtsa

Is Al Abu Bakar RA , The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Is Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi , actually is Al 'Umar Ibn Al Khattab RA ?

Is Al 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , actually is Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

You are quite persistent in your questions aren't you?
I'll do my best to answer it.

Although Abu Bakr and 'Eesa's souls are of similar composition in many aspects, they are two different souls, therefore two different people.
If their soul was the same, but their bodies were different, they would have been the same person.
Both being usually lenient, passionate, and cursing in times of frustration.

Although Dhu al Qarnain of Surah al kahf and 'Umar ibn Al Khattab's souls are of similar composition in many aspects, they are two different souls, therefore two different people.
If their soul was the same, but their bodies were different, they would have been the same person.
Both being strong, divisive between haqq and baatuil, and pragmatically constructive.

Although Ali ibn Abi-Tuaalib and Lukmaan al Hakeem's souls are of similar composition in many aspects, they are two different souls, therefore two different people.
If their soul was the same, but their bodies were different, they would have been the same person.
Both being wise judges and advisors.

And Allah knows best.

Is Al Abu Bakar RA , The Prophet Al 'Iisa AS ?

Is Al Dzulkarnain AS In Surat Al Qur'aan Al A'zhiim : Al Kahfi , actually is Al 'Umar Ibn Al Khattab RA ?

Is Al 'Aali Ibn Abi Thalib RA , actually is Al Lukman Al Hakim AS ?

Is Heraclius actually is ex Qarun ? .

No. Heraclius was not Qaaroon.

No person is another person. Each person is their own person.

Al Hazrat Al Kalil Al 'Umar Ibn Al Khattab RA and Al Hazrat Al Kalil Al 'Utsmaan Ibn Al Affan RA Are Both Al Muallaf . Is That True ?

It is not our prerogative to judge between Sahaabah-e-Kiraam. Allaah Ta`aalaa knows best regarding their status.

What we do know is that the four greatest among the Sahaabah were:

1) Hadhrat Abu Bakr رضي الله عنه.

2) Hadhrat `Umar رضي الله عنه.

3) Hadhrat `Uthmaan رضي الله عنه.

4) Hadhrat `Ali رضي الله عنه.

Was-Salaam.

What do you mean by "Al Muallaf" in this case?