I would like to invite opinions about whether Shariah Law would be beneficial if introduced in Britain (or perhaps other non-Muslim countries). Since I live in Britain, that is the society I am most familiar with, so I shall be thinking of the question from a British perspective. Of course, I'm sure many people here on the forum will know much more about Shariah Law than I do, so I look forward to learning more about it.
I have already stated on another thread that I would not be happy with a Shariah Law system in this country. Here are the reasons I have given for this view:
1. Capital punishment. Either killing is wrong, or it isn't. To say that it is wrong for a member of the public to kill, but that it is permissible for the state to kill that person seems to me to be hypocritical.
2. Punishment for theft. I believe that cutting off someone's hand is barbaric. Simple as that.
3. Banning of all intoxicants. I believe that everyone should have the right to use any intoxicant at all, if that is their wish. Contrary to current British law, I believe that all drugs should be legalised forthwith.
These are the main reasons why I would oppose the introduction of Shariah law in Britain. While I think the current British legal system is far from perfect, I do not think Shariah law would be a valid solution.
I have one question:
What would be the legal status of music and other art forms under Shariah law? Would music be banned, as it was (is?) in Iran? How about artworks which are perceived to be contrary or insulting to Islam, such as Salman Rushdie's "The Satanic Verses"?
I'm sure we could have a useful discussion on this topic, and I look forward (once again) to learning more about Islamic views in this regard.
Im totally confused about things, this whole public and private matter.
like people would be allowed to commit adultry as long as they do it in a place that the people around them wouldnt be witnesses, so they can have like ***** houses and stuff
No, as long as their immorality does not SPREAD to the rest of society and no one knows about it. The condition for witnesses is only for the Hadd (prescribed) punishment of stoning for an individual who commits adultery.
So of course no one would be allowed to run such houses, if the government finds out it would be shut down and severe discretionary (ta'zîr) punishments would be delivered to those involved.
And people can be drunk as long as again noone sees them?
Well if no one sees them, how can anyone catch them to punish them?
They are sinning for sure, but since they are keeping their sin a secret, Allah swt will punish them, not the Islamic state. If it becomes public that they drank alcohol then they will get the prescribed punishment of 40 lashes.
Here's something to think about - if you happen to see someone take a sip of alcohol and no one else saw them, you are actually encouraged not to make it public but conceal their sin so that Allah swt will conceal your sin on the Day of Judgement. However, you can still advise them and warn them to repent sincerely to Allah swt.
As for non-muslims, they can drink alcohol so long as they keep such substances amongst themselves and do not make them accessible to the public nor harm others in any way.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Surely I was sent to perfect the qualities of righteous character" [Musnad Ahmad, Muwatta Mâlik]
I always hear everyone say tha if a person leaves Islam and keeps it to themselves then theres no punishment
But how can they keep it to themselves? Because they wont go mosque, they would eat pork and so on, so when someone asks the person lets go mosque and he is says 'no' everyday then the people would find out.
So what is meant by not telling anyone?
The path is long but I hope we meet,
After the grave and the Day, in paradise in bliss upon a reclined seat.
A traveler traveling - travelled from shirk to tawheed,
If I'm remembered for anything - let it be the Mercy I seek.
You can sort of fake it. i have a ton of agnostic friends and atheist friends who go to church simply to satisfy their family. i even have an atheist muslim friend who goes to mosque to satisfy his family. now of course that sort of is wrong lol, but no one will ever know they left islam. and i have an agnostic friend who used to be messianic jewish, and she still doesn't eat pork. so yeah.. i think it is much easier to be an ex muslim then we think lol. --- ex muslim who has the site --- , has family that are mullah's [whatever that is] and they visit all the time.. yet they still don't know that he is an ex muslim! lol
You can sort of fake it. i have a ton of agnostic friends and atheist friends who go to church simply to satisfy their family. i even have an atheist muslim friend who goes to mosque to satisfy his family. now of course that sort of is wrong lol, but no one will ever know they left islam. and i have an agnostic friend who used to be messianic jewish, and she still doesn't eat pork. so yeah.. i think it is much easier to be an ex muslim then we think lol. --- ex muslim who has the site --- , has family that are mullah's [whatever that is] and they visit all the time.. yet they still don't know that he is an ex muslim! lol
People might feel proud of that, but this is one of the worst things a person can do. The hypocrites will be the in the lowest pits of the hellfire, because they had the message right infront of them while pretending to follow it.
We don't practise this religion for the people, but for fear of the Creator so that we may gain His Mercy, and be rewarded with paradise insha'Allaah. And Allaah Almighty knows best.
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