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    Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist because they have been mis-educated and de-educated by the British schooling. Muslim children are confused because they are being educated in a wrong place at a wrong time in state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. They face lots of problems of growing up in two distinctive cultural traditions and value systems, which may come into conflict over issues such as the role of women in the society, and adherence to religious and cultural traditions. The conflicting demands made by home and schools on behaviour, loyalties and obligations can be a source of psychological conflict and tension in Muslim youngsters. There are also the issues of racial prejudice and discrimination to deal with, in education and employment. They have been victim of racism and bullying in all walks of life. According to DCSF, 56% of Pakistanis and 54% of Bangladeshi children has been victims of bullies. The first wave of Muslim migrants were happy to send their children to state schools, thinking their children would get a much better education. Than little by little, the overt and covert discrimination in the system turned them off. There are fifteen areas where Muslim parents find themselves offended by state schools.

    The right to education in one’s own comfort zone is a fundamental and inalienable human right that should be available to all people irrespective of their ethnicity or religious background. Schools do not belong to state, they belong to parents. It is the parents’ choice to have faith schools for their children. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim teacher or a child in a Muslim school. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools. An ICM Poll of British Muslims showed that nearly half wanted their children to attend Muslim schools. There are only 143 Muslim schools. A state funded Muslim school in Birmingham has 220 pupils and more than 1000 applicants chasing just 60.

    Majority of anti-Muslim stories are not about terrorism but about Muslim
    culture--the hijab, Muslim schools, family life and religiosity. Muslims in the west ought to be recognised as a western community, not as an alien culture.
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    In the 70s, I wanted my children to attend church school, but I was not allowed to get them admitted into a local church school becuase of my Islamic faith.

    Now church schools admit Muslim children, otherwise, they would have been closed down because they do not get children of Christian faith.

    There are two church schools in Bradford with 98% Muslim children. In my opinion, such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools.
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    Re: Muslim Youths

    Female circumcism??? Since when did that become an obligation on the Sisters???

    My daughter goes to an Islamic School and she has never been happier... and no she hasn't turned into a terrorist or a misfit!!!

    Faith Schools have existed since the dawn of time and produced very respecable people in the world.

    Give it a rest thinker... how much more poison have you got in you?
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    Re: Muslim Youths

    format_quote Originally Posted by Thinker View Post
    http://www.islamtoday.com/showme2.cf...sub_cat_id=822


    It's optional. Prophet Muhammad had many wives, and only one of them was his cousins (Zaynab bint Jahsh.) The rest weren't his cousins and were from other tribes, even other races.
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    Re: Muslim Youths

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hamayun View Post
    Female circumcism??? Since when did that become an obligation on the Sisters???

    My daughter goes to an Islamic School and she has never been happier... and no she hasn't turned into a terrorist or a misfit!!!

    Faith Schools have existed since the dawn of time and produced very respecable people in the world.

    Give it a rest thinker... how much more poison have you got in you?
    Here is an organisation who under the banner of Islam promote female circumcism and cousin marriage and campaign for bi-lingual teachers and it’s ME that is spreading poison not them? I wonder whether this is an Islamic organisation or a Pakistani organisation; I believe female circumcism and cousin marriage is a cultural heritage not an Islamic one and I believe it an aspect of Pakistani culture – what language would the bilingual teachers be speaking Arabic or Urdu?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Iftikhar View Post
    Established 1981 Ceased to exist 1991?
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    Tel/Fax: 0208 555 2733 / 07817 112 667
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    Was a registered charity but ceased to exist in 1991 - I wonder why; could be your source of funding?
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    Re: Muslim Youths

    format_quote Originally Posted by Thinker View Post
    Here is an organisation who under the banner of Islam promote female circumcism and cousin marriage and campaign for bi-lingual teachers and it’s ME that is spreading poison not them? I wonder whether this is an Islamic organisation or a Pakistani organisation; I believe female circumcism and cousin marriage is a cultural heritage not an Islamic one and I believe it an aspect of Pakistani culture – what language would the bilingual teachers be speaking Arabic or Urdu?
    female circumcism is a practice of the malays, and sub saharan africa, as usual thinker you didnt think too hard before making this post.
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    Re: Muslim Youths

    format_quote Originally Posted by Dawud_uk View Post
    female circumcism is a practice of the malays, and sub saharan africa, as usual thinker you didnt think too hard before making this post.
    I know that female circumcism is a part of the culture of several nationalities but I have been told on this forum that it is not a part of Islam and that was my point; this organisation, under the banner of Islam, is publishing material promoting female circucism.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Thinker View Post
    I know that female circumcism is a part of the culture of several nationalities but I have been told on this forum that it is not a part of Islam and that was my point; this organisation, under the banner of Islam, is publishing material promoting female circucism.
    there is a difference of opinion regarding female circumcision, whether it is an allowable cultural practice or whether it is mustahab (recommended act), either way it is allowed in islam.

    now what is agreed is female genital mutilation is prohibited, the two things are very different.
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    Re: Muslim Youths

    format_quote Originally Posted by Dawud_uk View Post
    there is a difference of opinion regarding female circumcision, whether it is an allowable cultural practice or whether it is mustahab (recommended act), either way it is allowed in islam.
    Allowed in Islam . . . hmm that sounds like a bit of a cop out to me. It’s like saying Islam allows you to saw off your feet, it may be allowed but surely any (God given) text purporting to be a guide to how one lives one’s life would guide people away from unnatural acts including self mutilation?
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    Re: Muslim Youths

    format_quote Originally Posted by Thinker View Post
    Allowed in Islam . . . hmm that sounds like a bit of a cop out to me. It’s like saying Islam allows you to saw off your feet, it may be allowed but surely any (God given) text purporting to be a guide to how one lives one’s life would guide people away from unnatural acts including self mutilation?
    actually you would only be allowed to saw off your foot if it would save your life so nasty diseases and bear traps excepted, usually we dont go doing that.

    the difference is Allah has made circumcism allowed, you cant grasp that as you dont believe in Allah. if you did we could have a discussion on the meaning of revelation and the need for it etc.

    but first of all we need to convince you of there being a creator, everything else is 2ndary compared to that.
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    Re: Muslim Youths

    format_quote Originally Posted by Dawud_uk View Post
    but first of all we need to convince you of there being a creator, everything else is 2ndary compared to that.
    If that was gonna happen it would have happened a long time ago. I don't see any chances of that happening.
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    Re: Muslim Youths

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hamayun View Post
    If that was gonna happen it would have happened a long time ago. I don't see any chances of that happening.
    never say never, abu sufyan entered islam eventually didnt he?
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