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    Muslim parents teach their children to respect their teachers. From a very young age, we are taught that Islam teaches us that after our parents, our teachers are most deserving of respect.
    It must be an extremely confusing time for the Muslim parent in Leytonstone, London. For up to 30 parents may face prosecution for withdrawing their children from school, disobeying the teachers in the school, simply to secure a decent moral upbringing for their children. The school had decided to have a week of lessons about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender history. Part of this was a special adaptation of Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet retitled Romeo and Julian as well as fairytales and stories changed to show men falling in love with men. Rather than filling the heads of impressionable boys and girls with fatuous drivel about gay penguins, schools should be ashamed of the fact that they are sending children out into the world barely able to read, write and add up properly. Muslim children are leaving schools without learning their cultural roots and linguistic skills.

    The action was being taken against the parents as part of a policy of ' promoting tolerance'. So why not tolerate parents, who, for sincerely-held reasons, consider their children too young to be taught about gay relationships? This isn't education, its cultural fascism. A record numbers of pupils persistently played truant in 2006-07, with around 272,950 pupils persistently absent in 2007, missing more than 20% of school. We rarely see councils prosecute the parents of these persistent truants. Yet, the parents who removed their children as a one-off to protect their morality may be prosecuted!

    If the local council does decide to go through with a prosecution, it would be in line with the government's approach to the Muslim community. Muslims who believe homosexuality is a sin would be labelled as extremists. Liberal totalitarianism is a growing phenomenon in Britain and the west in general but many people will be shocked that the school can override a parent's view of what's appropriate or inappropriate to teach their children.

    This latest episode should be a wakeup call for Muslim parents. Muslim parents MUST explain our moral standards to schools and be prepared to take steps to protect our children’s morals and values from a growing agenda to impose liberal values upon them. This is an eye opening for those Muslim parents who keep on sending their children to state schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers.

    The solution of all the problems facing Muslim children is state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers. Those state schools where Muslim children are in majority may be designated as Muslim community schools. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods.
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    Re: Muslim Children and Sex Education

    format_quote Originally Posted by Iftikhar View Post
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    Muslim parents teach their children to respect their teachers. From a very young age, we are taught that Islam teaches us that after our parents, our teachers are most deserving of respect.
    It must be an extremely confusing time for the Muslim parent in Leytonstone, London. For up to 30 parents may face prosecution for withdrawing their children from school, disobeying the teachers in the school, simply to secure a decent moral upbringing for their children. The school had decided to have a week of lessons about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender history. Part of this was a special adaptation of Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet retitled Romeo and Julian as well as fairytales and stories changed to show men falling in love with men. Rather than filling the heads of impressionable boys and girls with fatuous drivel about gay penguins, schools should be ashamed of the fact that they are sending children out into the world barely able to read, write and add up properly. Muslim children are leaving schools without learning their cultural roots and linguistic skills.

    The action was being taken against the parents as part of a policy of ' promoting tolerance'. So why not tolerate parents, who, for sincerely-held reasons, consider their children too young to be taught about gay relationships? This isn't education, its cultural fascism. A record numbers of pupils persistently played truant in 2006-07, with around 272,950 pupils persistently absent in 2007, missing more than 20% of school. We rarely see councils prosecute the parents of these persistent truants. Yet, the parents who removed their children as a one-off to protect their morality may be prosecuted!

    If the local council does decide to go through with a prosecution, it would be in line with the government's approach to the Muslim community. Muslims who believe homosexuality is a sin would be labelled as extremists. Liberal totalitarianism is a growing phenomenon in Britain and the west in general but many people will be shocked that the school can override a parent's view of what's appropriate or inappropriate to teach their children.

    This latest episode should be a wakeup call for Muslim parents. Muslim parents MUST explain our moral standards to schools and be prepared to take steps to protect our children’s morals and values from a growing agenda to impose liberal values upon them. This is an eye opening for those Muslim parents who keep on sending their children to state schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers.

    The solution of all the problems facing Muslim children is state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers. Those state schools where Muslim children are in majority may be designated as Muslim community schools. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods.
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    You are not being consistent here. You support extreme multiculturalism, multicultural fascism if I may say and can't have your children watch a gay play.

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    You have a choice to see the play, and you have a choice not to. Multiculturalism (although I'm not sure if that's the correct term to be used, unless you think of homosexuality as having its own culture) doesn't mean you are forced into things, it gives you a choice. If there is a festival that celebrates Chinese culture, you have the choice to go to it, and the choice not to. But to ban that festival from happening is what's not acceptable.
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    Re: Muslim Children and Sex Education

    format_quote Originally Posted by Iftikhar View Post
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    Muslim parents teach their children to respect their teachers. From a very young age, we are taught that Islam teaches us that after our parents, our teachers are most deserving of respect.
    It must be an extremely confusing time for the Muslim parent in Leytonstone, London. For up to 30 parents may face prosecution for withdrawing their children from school, disobeying the teachers in the school, simply to secure a decent moral upbringing for their children. The school had decided to have a week of lessons about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender history. Part of this was a special adaptation of Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet retitled Romeo and Julian as well as fairytales and stories changed to show men falling in love with men. Rather than filling the heads of impressionable boys and girls with fatuous drivel about gay penguins, schools should be ashamed of the fact that they are sending children out into the world barely able to read, write and add up properly. Muslim children are leaving schools without learning their cultural roots and linguistic skills.

    The action was being taken against the parents as part of a policy of ' promoting tolerance'. So why not tolerate parents, who, for sincerely-held reasons, consider their children too young to be taught about gay relationships? This isn't education, its cultural fascism. A record numbers of pupils persistently played truant in 2006-07, with around 272,950 pupils persistently absent in 2007, missing more than 20% of school. We rarely see councils prosecute the parents of these persistent truants. Yet, the parents who removed their children as a one-off to protect their morality may be prosecuted!

    If the local council does decide to go through with a prosecution, it would be in line with the government's approach to the Muslim community. Muslims who believe homosexuality is a sin would be labelled as extremists. Liberal totalitarianism is a growing phenomenon in Britain and the west in general but many people will be shocked that the school can override a parent's view of what's appropriate or inappropriate to teach their children.

    This latest episode should be a wakeup call for Muslim parents. Muslim parents MUST explain our moral standards to schools and be prepared to take steps to protect our children’s morals and values from a growing agenda to impose liberal values upon them. This is an eye opening for those Muslim parents who keep on sending their children to state schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers.

    The solution of all the problems facing Muslim children is state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers. Those state schools where Muslim children are in majority may be designated as Muslim community schools. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods.
    Iftikhar Ahmad
    No offense, but if its a Public school, then I am pretty sure parents haven't got much a say. My public school does what it wants, unless the State forces it to do something else. Parents can barely complain here, cause the PTO (Parent-Teacher Organization) can just dismiss the complaint in seconds.

    If you don't want to see it, tell them it's against their religious views, and they are supposed to (unless it's different in the UK) not force them to do it.
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    ^The school can do whatever they want, these particular people are not trying to get the school to change anything. However, if they feel it is inappropriate material that their child is learning, then it should be well within their right to take their kids out of school for that day.
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    why not let them have a porn movie week, in japan its just culture.
    I mean its part of the tolerance, you should accept the culture of japanese people too.
    Let's not forget Romeo and Julian junior, the love story where a man gave up loving the woman and instead married her son.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Clover View Post
    No offense, but if its a Public school, then I am pretty sure parents haven't got much a say. My public school does what it wants, unless the State forces it to do something else. Parents can barely complain here, cause the PTO (Parent-Teacher Organization) can just dismiss the complaint in seconds.

    If you don't want to see it, tell them it's against their religious views, and they are supposed to (unless it's different in the UK) not force them to do it.
    What does taoism have to say about homosexuality?.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by GreyKode View Post
    What does taoism have to say about homosexuality.
    First, I'd like to know why you ask.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by GreyKode View Post
    why not let them have a porn movie week, in japan its just culture.
    I mean its part of the tolerance, you should accept the culture of japanese people too.
    Let's not forget Romeo and Julian junior, the love story where a man gave up loving the woman and instead married her son.
    So where do we draw the line?
    Do we let parens withdraw their children from religious tolerance week?
    Do we let parens demand their children be put in a white-only class?

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    ^The second is a moot point, those parents are asking for the school to change, these ones don't want the school to do anything at all.
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    No offense, but I think people need to get over it, and thats not mean to be rude, but if it comes across to you that way, sorry, but thats my opinoin.

    I have to administer Black History Month, and I am white, and they focus on African-American studies, but wait, their's no Asian History Month, White History Month, Latino History Month (they do have that one thing, forgot how to spell it lol).

    Personally, I see St. Patrick's as my day, cause I am part Irish (more then most, and I will fight anyone who dares to say I am a flat foot).

    If you don't want them to see it, tell the school its your religion, and that be that. Then, if they say somethin like "get over it" when you've told them its religious, THEN you go after them.
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    assalam alaikum
    i think that what the school is doing is not something that is going to benefit society in a good and moral way!!! (not wanting to going into a debate)
    however what i just want to say is that muslims living in the west should not be suprised at this kind of news i mean a society which doesnt support good moral family values rather discourages any such idea but the most important point is that the society we r living in is based on philosophic theories which eventually lead man to break out of the chains of religious moral values and 'cuff' him to his desires which will never stop!!!
    so what im trying to say is expect worse!!
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    format_quote Originally Posted by crayon View Post
    ^The second is a moot point, those parents are asking for the school to change, these ones don't want the school to do anything at all.
    They're not asking that they just want a safe environment their children, the school just needs to arrange classes to acomodate them.
    On the other hand Iftikhar is asking for schools to change radically.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Clover View Post
    No offense, but I think people need to get over it, and thats not mean to be rude, but if it comes across to you that way, sorry, but thats my opinoin.

    If you don't want them to see it, tell the school its your religion, and that be that. Then, if they say somethin like "get over it" when you've told them its religious, THEN you go after them.
    No one is going after anyone- unless you mean the local council prosecuting the parents for their decision.

    Read the article here.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint View Post
    They're not asking that they just want a safe environment their children, the school just needs to arrange classes to acomodate them.
    On the other hand Iftikhar is asking for schools to change radically.
    I'm discussing the parents taking their kids out of school, not what brother Iftikhar is saying.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Clover View Post
    First, I'd like to know why you ask.
    So far, i can understand that part of your belief system, is courage and manhood, I respected your views about street fighting but in a sort of a disciplined sense, so I feel that this very much incompatible with homosexuality especially for men.

    "Men bond together through fighting and rough activities."
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    format_quote Originally Posted by crayon View Post
    No one is going after anyone- unless you mean the local council prosecuting the parents for their decision.

    Read the article here.
    I guess it's different in the UK then it is here. Here, the parents could go to the director of schools, and if need be, go above him.
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    The more I read stories like this the more I am inclined to home educate my child(or children if we decide to have any more) Society has forgotten its morals. And whilst perhaps this is a part of society(even if I'd rather it wasn't), there is no reason why such young children need to be subject to this information. Children under 10 cannot cook a meal for themselves, cannot complete household chores and understand the reality of life. Let alone the complicated issues surrounding love and marriage and sexual realtions. Why on earth should we expect them to even comprehend something as wild as this. Goodness me, I have issues understanding it most of the time, there is no way my child would be subject to such teachings.

    Home education is coming to be a brilliant idea I think. If only people had more time to spend at home and use it wisely to educate their children in this way I feel (as Muslims) we would be able to bring a better ummah into being
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    Also it might be worth noting that Christian parents were involved in the same article too. Its not just Muslim parents
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    parents should have a choice what kind of "nourishing knowledge" enters their childs brain to as much of an xtent as is humanly possible.

    hey there was that new mmr multivaccine that will give your kids autism or extreme lethargy syndrome,

    your kinds cant go to school soon unless they have had that vaccine.

    on the news the other day...

    so if u havent got a tv at home, avoid the radio cos the songs just fill your mind with sex and overemphasis on loving the female like she is a diety (music is a joke.... the messages in the music are so retareded... most women love r and b cos it idolizes them and they are involved in self glorification while they listen to it and smile when some blokes vocalizes his cravings for her lol)

    its a joke. the whole culture at the moment is a joke.

    no tv no radio, magazines with sex ads everywhere too...lol.

    in the education system too. its like the education system are preparing them for the outside world.... not caring about a moral standpoint whatsoever.

    society is getting corrupted largely and the government is just going with the flow by teaching corruption a lot early instead....lol

    encouraging corruption???
    hilarious.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by GreyKode View Post
    So far, i can understand that part of your belief system, is courage and manhood, I respected your views about street fighting but in a sort of a disciplined sense, so I feel that this very much incompatible with homosexuality especially for men.

    "Men bond together through fighting and rough activities."
    Naruto
    Ok, I figured you might be trying to bait me into a debate fight. Wanted to take a precaution, no offense. Well, the TTC (Tao Te Ching) so far that I have read (I have read the first 15 chapters, and skimmed through it 2-3 times to see if I see anything that catches the eye on certain subjects) and so far that I can tell, it could be considered wrong due to the TTC stating:

    "Tao produces One,
    One produces Two,
    Two produces Three,
    Myriad Things, backed by yin and embracing yang
    Achive harmony by integrating their energy"

    That could mean, Man+Woman=Harmony, but its all based on the individual's interpretation.

    I am not for Gay Marriage, cause marriage, so far that I can remember, is a Christian idea, Gay Union, I guess, I think people should do what makes them happy, and what is right, to them. If that means, loving another man, then I guess do it, I am not going to condemn you, I would prefer my kid to be straight, cause of the fact, its rather queer (weird, but its funny that, that word can be substituted lol) to me.
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