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    I want to be an engineer but my dad is forcing me to go be an doctor especially surgeon. But I am not interested in medical field I always wanted to be an engineer because I am interested in technology.
    He says that if I became a doctor I will get a lot of money, I will enjoy rest of my life, I will be famous, I can go to any country I want if I got a doctor degree.
    But I stil don't want to be a doctor I want to enjoy my job. I told him but he doesn't listen. I hate being a doctor.
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    Engineers can be paid way more than those corrupt doctors who get paid by the evil pharmaceutical companies.

    And engineering is way cooler than stethoscopes etc.

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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    As-salamu alaikum.

    Since you do enjoy engineering, it is much more likely for you to not only achieve a career in the subject, but to also do well as an engineer.

    Considering this, you would be able to provide greater benefit to society in what you would excel in.

    From a Muslim perspective, I would suggest a career that one enjoys from which one would be of great benefit to society, have reasonable earnings, while importantly maintaining a secure connection to Islam.

    May Allah make our decisions easy and beneficial to this world and the hereafter.
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    Engineers can be paid way more than those corrupt doctors who get paid by the evil pharmaceutical companies.

    And engineering is way cooler than stethoscopes etc.

    Scimi
    Not every doctor is corrupt.
    There may be some, but most doctors earn Halal.
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    maybe ask him if the doctor needs a surgery/hospital to operate in?
    then maybe ask him if you wouldn't be doing more of a better task building a hospital or instruments that the doc needs which you'd be good at - than being a doctor which doesn't seem to be clicking with you.

    your dad does have a point though, especially since we appear to be hitting times of stock market crashes and economic uncertainty, the engineers would be more hard-pressed than doctors in terms of demand, since the technology iand architecture industry usually depends on extra cash whereas the medical professional is always needed and can do their work even in a tent with a few tools.

    i'm not saying engineering is bad but i know docs are more prone to survival and are able to help more when the shtf.
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    Have you any experience about working in the medical field? Could you go as trainee or volunteer to some medical center/hospital to see what kind of work it really is? It could helps you to make your decision about your future career.

    If you don´t know how it feels to help other people, how do you know you don´t like it?
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    format_quote Originally Posted by shafat10 View Post
    Not every doctor is corrupt.
    There may be some, but most doctors earn Halal.
    No Muslim doctors I knew earnt "halal".

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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    No Muslim doctors I knew earnt "halal".

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    and the surgeons who tended to the wounds of uhud and badr and hunayn and mu'tah and hawazin and hundreds more?
    the one that circumcized your precious?
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    The Doctor who performed my circumcision was taking money under the table to sign off sick notes... modern day doctors are glorified drug dealers who push meds from the highest bidder.

    Disagree?

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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    the good ones are the ones that keep Allah in mind and seek to gain His favour while they are honest and repair damage rather than lie and deceive and try to damage people via chemical lobotomy for a miserable gain under the directions of the slaves of satan.
    i'll pray for the good ones that Allah makes them prevail.
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    Ameen to your dua bro Abz,

    The world needs Doctors who actually care about their patients more than they care about lining their pockets.

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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    Have you any experience about working in the medical field? Could you go as trainee or volunteer to some medical center/hospital to see what kind of work it really is? It could helps you to make your decision about your future career.

    If you don´t know how it feels to help other people, how do you know you don´t like it?
    I don't have any experience in medical feild or engineering. But I do not like to cut people to do surgery, or see injured people, blood etc.
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    I empathise with you.

    Unfortunately the 'culture' dad deciding is quite hard to break.. (Pakistani origin)..

    Perhaps you need to reason with him. Get help from your mum. You have to tell him in the nicest possible way and not lose patience. Tell him how you are reviled by it. The smell, sickness and blood etc. That does not even start with having to cut people up or dealing with pain etc.. and that you don't really want to spend the rest of your life stressing with emergencies and a large part being 'on call'. Engineering is good. Creative and calculated. It is a science discipline and practical.

    Appeal to him that it is a respectable profession and not something you definitely don't want to do.

    Perhaps a compromise, you train to become a pharmacist?

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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    Or psychiatrist? Then you can move to America where people run to the psychiatrists all the time - at least if we believe in American soap series.
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    i wonder who the psychiacrists must run to since many suffer from kufr (Allah clarfies that kufr of Allah is madness)
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    Asalamualykum,

    Speak to your dad. If you haven't already done so.

    He needs to listen to your views and how you feel.

    Only you can influence his thoughts and views and remind him that you are an individual and whilst you appreciate and respect his advice, you also need a say about your life.

    I completely understand the pressure one can be subjected to by parents but think long term for this life and the next.

    May Allah swt guide you and your family Ameen.
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    Scimitar, brother, you said you have never seen a doctor earn Halal. Which country do you live in? I don't really know how you can say that, your exposure to the medical side must be less.

    Coming from a family of doctors, I have never seen a doctor earn "Haram". My dad is a Consultant in Cardiac Anaesthesia, and has been doing this since the past 30+ years, and is near retirement, and so far I have never seen him earn a single Taka or Riyal Haram. He has worked in the best Cardiac hospital of my country since day 1, and I have never seen either of his friends earn Haram like you are mentioning. Worth noting, Cardiac Anaesthesia is the highest level of Anaesthesia and he and his colleagues and all those doctors of his age are the senior most working doctors of my country and I have never heard any of them earn Haram. I have simply no idea in which country you live, that you claim all of the doctors are earning Haram and are drug dealers in disguise. I totally "disagree" with you, 101%.
    Your exposure to doctors must be highly limited or else there's no way you can say such a thing.
    Yes, there are some black sheeps in every community, but that doesn't define the majority.
    Majority of the doctors, whether Muslim or non Muslim, earn Halal.
    I am not here to defend Medicine, am not at all interested in it, I work in the Aviation industry, but I have to be honest. I have never seen my dad earn Haram, neither his colleagues, in several countries of the world where I lived, including Bangladesh, India, Malaysia, and Saudi Arabia.

    Care to elaborate why you have too much hate for doctors? Lol.
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    Or psychiatrist? Then you can move to America where people run to the psychiatrists all the time - at least if we believe in American soap series.
    I am already in USA
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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    Faree,

    1. You are in America, do as you please!
    2. If you are under 17, your father has certain legal rights to limit your behavior.
    3. If you are over 17, see to #1.



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    Re: My dad is forcing me to be a surgeon.

    Don't listen to your father, listen to what your heart is telling you because you can only succeed and be bright in the field that you love.

    If you don't love your field then you can't be bright in it.
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