Can anyone agree with me that we need islamic schools in Europe and America, i have seen time and time again muslim parents put their kids in public schools and i see them become just like the kufar, they are so far removed from islam that if you look at them you could not tell they are muslim but only by name, in the kafir public schools you are taught evolution and how God does not exist but you can believe it if you want. public schools encourage dating and relationships between boys and girls outside of marriage. They have dances and all sorts of gender mixing. it is hard for the muslim youth to concentrate on his or her studies.
we need islamic schools in Europe and America to help the young muslims to stick with the deen and not be distracted but the kafir lifstyles. :brother: :sister:
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In the heavens and the earth there are certainly signs for the believers. And in your creation and all the creatures He has scattered about there are signs for people with certainty.
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Well dude, heres the thing, Islamically, they are helpful, but educationally, they arnt at all. And so until you have a good mix of both, I wouldnt spend my whole life in an Islamic school. I went to Islamic school until 11, and then went to a public school. The Islamic school laid down my foundation and at public school, i knew the difference between right and wrong...
These Islamic schools aren't very Islamic at all. I should know, since I went to one for several years. Now, for young children, Islamic schools are a good place, but for the older kids, such as High Schoolers, public school is better. They should get an Islamic foundation when they are young, so that when they go to public chool, they are prepared. Often, these kids will come out of Islamic schools and go to college, and they're lost.
Either way, these Islamic schools are nothing but a tool to preserve one's identity. IUn my opinion, if you want to keep your children free from Fitnah, do homeschooling.
Currently I attend an islamic school and to be honest with you, its not very good... Many of the teachers are not qualified and the girls especially are treated horribly... However public school would pose problems as well, such as racial violence, which my brothers experience and they're not even in high school yet... The main and only benefits of an islamic school are its isalmic and qur'anic education, and the separation of boys and girls... Alot of islamic school have low standards and for those who want to become something in the future, this is not good at all... The teachers at my school like to play with students grades, and often dont know how to caculate them correctly... I'm an A-B student, but because of my teachers sending in the wrong information, and them not averaging my scores precisely, my overall average was in the 70's (C)... For me, that was horrible because here in New York, all of you're grades that you get in every year of high school count towards you're overall gpa and by the looks of it, no matter what grades I get from now on, I won't be able to get into a prestigious college or university... But I do agree that going to an islamic school has made a number of changes in me, Islamically... For example, I don't just blindly follow islam, I looked at what set it apart from other religions and then I realized why I was muslim and why I should continue to stay as one... I started to wear hijab because of my teachers who had a childhood similar to mine, and so I looked up to them as an inspiration... I started memorizing qur'an and not just for school, but for Allah...
However, many girls aren't given certain necessities like an air conditioner during the summers, while the boys building would have central air conditioning... We're being oppressed by our own people... No, not by hijab, but by treating us as if we're inferior... That is a serious problem in all islamic schools here... Its sad because they have enough money to paint the wallas and bathrooms a different color every week, and put little kids' swings in the backyard, but not enough to get a small air conditioner for the classrooms... If there's one thing I learned about my experience with islamic schools, its that I wont be sending my children to it... I stay because my parents feel better about the people I see and talk to... But they don't know the facts, despite me telling them countless times... If I want to teach my kids about Islam, I'll send them to the masjid after school every day and teach them myself... Many girls in my school have been going there since the school ifrst opened, but act no differently than girls in public school.. And I'm 100% sure the same goes for the boys... Anyways, I think I've said enough...
I personally see nothing wrong with public schooling. It's just an alternative. I mean sure, you can argue that the kids will be 'exposed to sin' and what have you - but most Western countries are chock full of sinners. You wouldn't be able to step outside your own house for fear of 'exposing yourself to sin'. In the later stages of education especially, you need to be in the outside world as it were, since you're being trained for work, insha'allah and need to know how to deal with people.
I can tell you for a fact that they don't teach you that 'God doesn't exist but it it's okay if you want to believe in Him' in public schools. That's not on the curriculum. Certain teachers might say that, but then they might just be buttheads as well.
Islamic schooling, I really don't know much about, since I haven't experienced it and thus can't really judge.
Can anyone agree with me that we need islamic schools in Europe and America, i have seen time and time again muslim parents put their kids in public schools and i see them become just like the kufar, they are so far removed from islam that if you look at them you could not tell they are muslim but only by name, in the kafir public schools you are taught evolution and how God does not exist but you can believe it if you want. public schools encourage dating and relationships between boys and girls outside of marriage. They have dances and all sorts of gender mixing. it is hard for the muslim youth to concentrate on his or her studies.
we need islamic schools in Europe and America to help the young muslims to stick with the deen and not be distracted but the kafir lifstyles. :brother: :sister:
Assalamou 'alaikoum wa Rahmatoullah wa Barakatouh
Bro, I agree with you. So, I always say that the muslim parents can't let their children to go to this kind of schools because they haven't morality and the influence is too bad. Everybody knows that the childrens spend the most of their time(which is very important) in the school...and we have to do something to give the best futur for the Oumma...
There always are solutions al HamdouliLLAH... We can speak with the brothers or sisters who have the privilege to take care of the masjids or who work in Islamics Institutions?!?! Wa Lahou A'lam. May Allah give us the "qouwa"(=the force) to really do something and not simply "speak" incha Allah.
Currently I attend an islamic school and to be honest with you, its not very good... Many of the teachers are not qualified and the girls especially are treated horribly... However public school would pose problems as well, such as racial violence, which my brothers experience and they're not even in high school yet... The main and only benefits of an islamic school are its isalmic and qur'anic education, and the separation of boys and girls... Alot of islamic school have low standards and for those who want to become something in the future, this is not good at all... The teachers at my school like to play with students grades, and often dont know how to caculate them correctly... I'm an A-B student, but because of my teachers sending in the wrong information, and them not averaging my scores precisely, my overall average was in the 70's (C)... For me, that was horrible because here in New York, all of you're grades that you get in every year of high school count towards you're overall gpa and by the looks of it, no matter what grades I get from now on, I won't be able to get into a prestigious college or university... But I do agree that going to an islamic school has made a number of changes in me, Islamically... For example, I don't just blindly follow islam, I looked at what set it apart from other religions and then I realized why I was muslim and why I should continue to stay as one... I started to wear hijab because of my teachers who had a childhood similar to mine, and so I looked up to them as an inspiration... I started memorizing qur'an and not just for school, but for Allah...
However, many girls aren't given certain necessities like an air conditioner during the summers, while the boys building would have central air conditioning... We're being oppressed by our own people... No, not by hijab, but by treating us as if we're inferior... That is a serious problem in all islamic schools here... Its sad because they have enough money to paint the wallas and bathrooms a different color every week, and put little kids' swings in the backyard, but not enough to get a small air conditioner for the classrooms... If there's one thing I learned about my experience with islamic schools, its that I wont be sending my children to it... I stay because my parents feel better about the people I see and talk to... But they don't know the facts, despite me telling them countless times... If I want to teach my kids about Islam, I'll send them to the masjid after school every day and teach them myself... Many girls in my school have been going there since the school ifrst opened, but act no differently than girls in public school.. And I'm 100% sure the same goes for the boys... Anyways, I think I've said enough...
Salaam
:sister: mashallah :applaud: nicely said.Do you go to the Islamic boarding school in Buffalo,NewYork?Agree with the idea of going to Islamic school.Public school went there for about two years hated it so left.Then attended private school when I finished then went to a Islamic school.True it's a school but don't see the Islamic part.I don't think girls cat fighting,dating,and etc..are Islamic at all.Do you?
:sister: mashallah :applaud: nicely said.Do you go to the Islamic boarding school in Buffalo,NewYork?Agree with the idea of going to Islamic school.Public school went there for about two years hated it so left.Then attended private school when I finished then went to a Islamic school.True it's a school but don't see the Islamic part.I don't think girls cat fighting,dating,and etc..are Islamic at all.Do you?
I don't think cat-fighting is Islamic either, but I still think it's hilarious.
I don't think cat-fighting is Islamic either, but I still think it's hilarious.
so,bro you think girls on top of each other yelling,scratching,and pulling down each others clothes is funny?Man you have a weird deffinition of funny.
I don't think cat-fighting is Islamic either, but I still think it's hilarious.
lol I can say this from experience (not firsthand though, from watchin others) that when we girls fight, we grab whatever we can and pull, hard.... And in our case, its hijabs usually ... Just to put the other in as much pain as possible... I'm sure if guys had long hair, they'd be doing the same thing ...
:sister: mashallah :applaud: nicely said.Do you go to the Islamic boarding school in Buffalo,NewYork?Agree with the idea of going to Islamic school.Public school went there for about two years hated it so left.Then attended private school when I finished then went to a Islamic school.True it's a school but don't see the Islamic part.I don't think girls cat fighting,dating,and etc..are Islamic at all.Do you?
Asalamu Alaikum,
No, I don't think they're islamic at all, and its sad because sooo many girls and boys do it in my school, THAT EVEN KINDERGARTENERS SEND EACH OTHER LOVE LETTERS ... And no I don't go to that boarding school, I live about 10 hours from Buffalo... I just hope I don't get caught up in that mess...
i go 2 a none islamic skool and i dnt get influnces by dem cuz i know wat dey r sayin but i agree with U da fact da young pple might get influnced.however in ma skool dey dnt teach us about how god dnt exist and dat.dey teach us islam and wats in islam and christianty which i dnt think i co-operate with in class cuz i dnt think its intersting as islam its beautiful as islam.and inshalla wateva dey do dey will not get me out of ma religion.
Many parents in the west are choosing either to homeschool their kids or sending them to a single gender school. Researches have shown that both environments are conducive to learning and provide the least distraction.
Many Islamic Schools in the USA have qualified teachers. They're passionate about their work and most of the time, they CARE about their students, and regard their job as a mission.
Islamic Schools not only provide integrated curriculum but also a safe-haven for muslim kids. Recently, a teacher, in a Catholic school was indicted for having **xual relationship with 5 of her students! and don't forget Columbine and a plethora of other safety issues plaguing the public school system.
True, Islamic schools can be better, but in the truest spirit of Islam, IT IS a responsibility of the community not only the teachers to educate the youth. When this responsibility is taken up TOGETHER, only then true ISLAMIC EDUCATION can be realized.
I've seen many muslim kids who go to public schools who turned out masha Allah, excellent in behavior and I've seen them going away from Islam too. Rarely, I've witnessed kids with proper education while they're young, to go away from Islam.
The true education begins at home. While parenting is an expertise and involves human lives, surprisingly we can only learn and make mistakes and then learn from the mistakes. Sometimes, whether we like it or not, we learn from OTHER PEOPLE'S mistakes, after damaged has been done.
I'd send my kids to Islamic School regardless, and help out.
Because at the end of the day, on my death bed, when I ask them who do you worship, they'd convincingly answer 'ALLAH" and when I'm in my grave, their dua keeps me company and safe.
Last edited by Takumi; 08-08-2005 at 11:11 PM.
Takumi Nakashima WattaquLlah(a) wa yu'allimukumuLlah(u)
(Be Mindful of Allah and He will teach you)
:sister: mashallah :applaud: nicely said.Do you go to the Islamic boarding school in Buffalo,NewYork?Agree with the idea of going to Islamic school.Public school went there for about two years hated it so left.Then attended private school when I finished then went to a Islamic school.True it's a school but don't see the Islamic part.I don't think girls cat fighting,dating,and etc..are Islamic at all.Do you?
No, I don't see it Islamic either. But Islamic schools should not be blamed for the behavior of its students. We don't see the ummah of Muhammad fearing Allah all the time, so, prophet Muhammad did not do a good job at it?
We should see students as human being who have the potential to grow and improve. to do this, we provide a curriculum and a facility so that our mission of tarbiya can be implemented. Will some students fall through the cracks? Most definitely! But guidance come differently to different people.
that fact is evident that Umar became Muslim later than Abu Bakr and Abu Sufyan became muslim later than Umar. that is the dynamics of understanding and practising Islam.
We just have to try our best and make dua so that Allah will guide these young people. They are our present and will shape Islam's future.
Building an Islamic school is a right thing to do. Maintaining it is a different issue.
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(Be Mindful of Allah and He will teach you)
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Bro, I agree with you. So, I always say that the muslim parents can't let their children to go to this kind of schools because they haven't morality
I can say this from experience (not firsthand though, from watchin others) that when we girls fight, we grab whatever we can and pull, hard.... And in our case, its hijabs usually
... Just to put the other in as much pain as possible... I'm sure if guys had long hair, they'd be doing the same thing
...
... And no I don't go to that boarding school, I live about 10 hours from Buffalo... I just hope I don't get caught up in that mess...
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