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    Greetings,

    I've been thinking for a while that it might be useful to have a thread where people can ask questions about the English language - spelling, grammar, punctuation and things like that. After getting the thumbs-up for this idea on the "Down Crack" thread, I've decided to give it a go. Also, if anyone has questions about specific texts they are studying at school, people who've read them might be able to help out with those, too.

    I'll get things started with a quick explanation about something that confuses lots of people (English or otherwise) - the apostrophe (').

    Apostrophes have two main functions:

    1. to show that letters have been left out of a word
    2. to show that something belongs to someone or something.

    They should never be used for plurals, so writing something like "I love animal's" would be wrong.

    Here are some examples with the correct usage:

    It's raining.
    I'm feeling fine.
    He's very silly.
    They've moved house.


    The apostrophes are there to show that the writer means "It is...", "I am...", "He is..." and "They have...".

    Incidentally, when writing about decades, we don't need an apostrophe, because no letters have been left out:

    The 1980s

    That's simple enough, now for the more tricky part.

    When we want to say that something belongs to someone or something, we write an apostrophe after the owner, and add the letter 's':

    The dog's bone. (One dog owns the bone.)
    John's house.

    If the person or thing ends with the letter 's', or we want to talk about something with more than one owner, it's common to put an apostrophe after it, and not to add another 's':

    James' football.
    The dogs' bone. (More than one dog owns the bone.)

    We always put the apostrophe after the owner, so in the two doggy examples above, in the first one the owner is "the dog", in the second the owner is "the dogs".

    Still with me? OK. Now for the confusing part - the word "its". How do we know whether to write "it's" or "its"?

    The answer is that we only use "it's" when we mean "it is". If you want to talk about something that is owned by something else, use "its":

    Every rose has its thorn.
    The dog was playing with its bone.

    Right, I hope that's been useful for somebody. For now, bring on the questions...

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    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by unknown_JJ View Post
    What did you teach then? Phonology?
    For me, it's all about the Literature.

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    Re: English Department

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,


    For me, it's all about the Literature.

    Peace
    Perfect!

    Can Yu check my work for me? Pretty please with a carrot on the top?
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    Re: English Department

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by unknown_JJ View Post
    Perfect!

    Can Yu check my work for me? Pretty please with a carrot on the top?
    Luckily for you, I'm at a bit of a loose end at the moment. Holidays - hooray! etc.

    I'll give your work a cursory glance if you like, and I could tell you what I think of it, but at no stage will I do the work for you. Do bear that in mind.

    You can send it to me in a PM or put it here on the thread - up to you.

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    Re: English Department

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,


    Luckily for you, I'm at a bit of a loose end at the moment. Holidays - hooray! etc.

    I'll give your work a cursory glance if you like, and I could tell you what I think of it, but at no stage will I do the work for you. Do bear that in mind.

    You can send it to me in a PM or put it here on the thread - up to you.

    Peace
    I wasn't gonna make you do it for me, you just look through it, don't be silleh, I'm a good girl =D

    I dun the work, just need to type it up!
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    Re: English Department

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by unknown_JJ View Post
    I wasn't gonna make you do it for me, you just look through it, don't be silleh, I'm a good girl =D
    Ah, but sometimes you have to be silly. That's just a general principle of mine - on to the reason why:

    I often get asked to look through people's work, and a lot of the time what they mean is "can you improve it for me so I get a better mark when I hand it in?"

    I'm not saying that's your reason for asking, just letting you know that it's not what I'm here for. I'll point you in the right direction with your work if I can, then it's up to you to get going with it.

    I dun the work, just need to type it up!
    Good stuff - you seem to be pretty well-organised.

    I'll be online this evening, but away over the next few days.

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    Re: English Department

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,


    Ah, but sometimes you have to be silly. That's just a general principle of mine - on to the reason why:

    I often get asked to look through people's work, and a lot of the time what they mean is "can you improve it for me so I get a better mark when I hand it in?"

    I'm not saying that's your reason for asking, just letting you know that it's not what I'm here for. I'll point you in the right direction with your work if I can, then it's up to you to get going with it.



    Good stuff - you seem to be pretty well-organised.

    I'll be online this evening, but away over the next few days.

    Peace
    Well organised. :X I started yesterday and it's due in on Monday, we actually have aaaaaages to do it, but I were unwell. . No pressure =D

    No I don't want Yu to do the work, dat'll make me gay, Yah happy, what were you thinking?

    Ima PM you in a bit and then let you enjoy your holiday(s)!
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    Re: English Department

    Hi,

    Is it 'sang' or 'sung'? :><: I always get confused and say 'singed' instead
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    If you don't mind can you explain the usage of "who" and "whom"? Thanks!
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    Re: English Department

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hafsah View Post
    Hi,

    Is it 'sang' or 'sung'? :><: I always get confused and say 'singed' instead
    Depends ...
    It is ' I sang a song' (as an active action) and 'A song was sung' (as something being passively done).

    'Singed' however, is always wrong!

    I am sure czgibson can either correct me or explain it better!

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    Come, let us worship and bow down •
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    Re: English Department

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    'Singed' however, is always wrong!
    'Singed' is incorrect in the context of the verb 'to sing'.

    But, it is correct in to the context of the verb 'to singe'.
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    Re: English Department

    format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin View Post
    'Singed' is incorrect in the context of the verb 'to sing'.

    But, it is correct in to the context of the verb 'to singe'.
    Haha, Muezzin, now you are being clever!!

    To clarify the difference.
    Sing - sang - sung for this:
    sing main Full - English Department



    Singe - singed - singed
    for this:

    bullethole300 24852a 1 - English Department
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    Here I stand.
    I can do no other.
    May God help me.
    Amen.

    Come, let us worship and bow down •
    and kneel before the Lord our Maker

    [Psalm 95]

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    What's the best way to learn all phrasal verbs without too much trying?
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    Re: English Department

    i kum hear to liran english,the englsih many depriveed ma containment afrika and so i woodo likey english many to teach meehee enslish luggage
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    Nice language keeping in mind thats how zAk speaks which is a probability in 1/2.
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    Re: English Department

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Depends ...
    It is ' I sang a song' (as an active action) and 'A song was sung' (as something being passively done).

    'Singed' however, is always wrong!

    I am sure czgibson can either correct me or explain it better!

    Peace
    format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin View Post
    'Singed' is incorrect in the context of the verb 'to sing'.

    But, it is correct in to the context of the verb 'to singe'.
    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Haha, Muezzin, now you are being clever!!

    To clarify the difference.
    Sing - sang - sung for this:
    wwwislamicboardcom - English Department



    Singe - singed - singed for this:

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    Thanks...makes sense Glo nice pics too

    Muezzin...JazakAllah khayr =D
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    Re: English Department

    I always get farther and further mixed up.
    -_-
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    format_quote Originally Posted by transition? View Post
    I always get farther and further mixed up.
    -_-
    Farther means physical distance. 'The barber shop is farther away'.

    Further is used... at all other times, basically. Like when you're introducing a new idea: 'You are a rubbish barber, and further, you smell'.

    But czgibson is the master of this thread. And an English teacher. So he probably knows a thing or two about these things.
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    Re: English Department

    Where is our forum English teacher when we need him???
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    Re: English Department

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Where is our forum English teacher when we need him???
    Believe it or not, I'm just back from giving an extra English lesson! The son of a friend of mine has his English GCSE coming up and he needs every bit of help he can get.

    It looks like I've got a lot of questions to get through, so here goes:

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hafsah
    Is it 'sang' or 'sung'? I always get confused and say 'singed' instead
    Here is a verb table for the verb 'to sing':


    Present: sing [As in 'I like to sing.']

    Past simple: sang [As in 'He sang for two hours.]

    Past participle: sung [As in 'Our choir has sung in many large venues.']


    When it comes to sang and sung, one easy way to remember which one to use is this:

    If you're just using a pronoun then the verb, use sang. Examples: 'We sang', 'you sang', 'they sang'.

    If you're using a pronoun, then an auxiliary verb (like was or had), then the main verb, use sung. Examples: 'She has sung', 'The tune will be sung', 'They had sung'.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Jr
    If you don't mind can you explain the usage of "who" and "whom"? Thanks!
    It's possible to get through life without ever using the word 'whom', which is not used nearly as much as it used to be. It's almost always possible to rephrase things to allow the use of 'who'.

    This page explains the difference:

    Who vs. whom

    format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
    What's the best way to learn all phrasal verbs without too much trying?
    Practice and memory. I'm afraid there doesn't seem to be a shortcut for this!

    format_quote Originally Posted by transition?
    I always get farther and further mixed up.
    Muezzin's explanation is excellent.

    I would only add that very few people nowadays are too bothered by this distinction. If in doubt, use 'further', and only the most extreme pedant would complain.

    I hope those are helpful answers - let me know if you'd like any clarification and I'll try to reply before too long.

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    Thanks brother. So for example I say the letter is for whom ? I understand now,thanks one again.
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