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    Mathematics Corner :) (OP)




    This is like any other educational corner.
    Only, this one will contain lots and lots of numbers compared to the rest

    Well, my dear brothers and sisters, do TRY to help each other as we are ordained to do so.
    I also hope that those who do not enjoy mathematics will soon come to love it.Its a very challenging subject but it is indeed great fun!!!!:coolsis:


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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

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    format_quote Originally Posted by alcurad View Post
    ^do you have any questions about that?
    Hai, on vectors:

    Relative to a fixed origin, O, the line l has the equation

    r = (i + 7j - 5k) + lamda (3i - j + 2k)

    where p and q are constants and lamda is a scalar parameter.

    Given that point A with coordinates (-5, 9, -9) lies on l,

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    Point (25, -1, 11) also lies on l
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    The point C lies on l and is such that OC is perpendicular to l.

    - Find the coordinates of C

    - Find the ratio AC : CB
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    Lol, it's like impossible to set out vector questions...but for the first part, you first have to see that since the point C lies on l, its position vector can be defined as :
    (1+3t)i + (7-t)j + (-5+2t)k ....read t as lamda, lol

    So OC is just ^that^ minus (0 0 0), which is still (1+3t)i + (7-t)j + (-5+2t)k.

    If OC is perpendicular to l, the dot/scalar product of OC with the direction vector of l, (3i - j + 2k), should give you zero. From there, you find t, put that into OC, and you have the position vector of C.

    The ratios should be okay...AC = |C-A|, CB = |B-C| (the modulus is where you do the pythagoras-type stuff, obviously)...

    The difference between position and direction vectors, lol...I dunno what the best way to explain it is, but if you have a vector, OA = (1 1 1) maybe, then that gives you the position vector of the point A = (1 1 1), and the direction vector for every line parallel to the line between O and A. To get the equation of any of these other lines, you add a multiple of the direction vector to the position vector of some particular point on that line...
    Last edited by ~Raynn~; 06-14-2009 at 07:44 PM.
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    format_quote Originally Posted by ~Raynn~ View Post
    Lol, it's like impossible to set out vector questions...
    I think I did rather well. O_O

    but for the first part, you first have to see that since the point C lies on l, its position vector can be defined as
    (1+3t)i + (7-t)j + (-5+2t)k ....read t as lamda, lol

    So OC is just ^that^ minus (0 0 0), which is still (1+3t)i + (7-t)j + (-5+2t)k.

    If OC is perpendicular to l, the dot/scalar product of OC with the direction vector of l, (3i - j + 2k), should give you zero. From there, you find t, put that into OC, and you have the position vector of C.

    The ratios should be okay...AC = |C-A|, CB = |B-C| (the modulus is where you do the pythagoras-type stuff, obviously)...
    I see... Somewhat making sense. But not fully. Why "OC is just ^that^ minus (0 0 0)"?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by The Ruler View Post
    I think I did rather well. O_O
    Totallyyy, I meant answers...
    format_quote Originally Posted by The Ruler View Post
    I see... Somewhat making sense. But not fully. Why "OC is just ^that^ minus (0 0 0)"?
    Lol, ^that^ refers to the position vector of C. And the direction OC is simply C - O.
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    man, i was solving that, i go write the answer and there it is, umm, good job Ryann , heh..

    anyway, any other questions?
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    Okay... I still have difficulty fully understanding that, but I think in a while, I should be able to understand.

    Could you integrate the following:

    integral of: (e^3x)/(1 + e^x)

    use the substitution u = 1 + e^x

    The answer should be like this:

    0.5e^2x - e^x + ln(1 + e^x) + k

    where k is a constant.

    I get all of that... except I also get an additional -1.5
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    format_quote Originally Posted by The Ruler View Post
    Okay... I still have difficulty fully understanding that, but I think in a while, I should be able to understand.
    Try drawing a little diagram too...a line l, a point C on it, and a point O off it...may help see which two directions you're taking the dot product of...

    The integration...

    u = 1 + e^x >> du/dx = e^x = u - 1, dx = 1/ (u - 1) du
    and e^3x = (u - 1)^3, so...

    [Integral] e^3x / (1+ e^x) dx becomes
    [Integral] (u - 1)^3 /u * 1/ (u - 1) du

    Cancel out a (u-1) from the top and bottom, then expand the (u - 1)^2, so you'll get:

    [Integral] (u^2 -2u + 1)/u du
    = [Integral] u - 2 + 1/u du
    = 0.5u^2 - 2u + lnu + k....and you can substitute back in, lol...
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    ... Aaaah. This: dx = 1/ (u - 1) du is not something I do often.
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    And another one:

    In an experiment, a scientise considered the loss of mass of a collection of picked leaves. The mass M grams of a single leaf was measures at times t days after leaf was picked.

    The scientist attempted to find a relationship between M and t. In a preliminary model she assumed that the rate of loss of mass was proportional to the mass M grams of the leaf.

    a) write down a differential equation for the rate of change of mass of the leaf, using this model.

    - dM/dt = -kM where k>0

    b) Show, by differentiation, that M = 10(0.98)^t satisfies this differential equation.

    What exactly is the question asking for?
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    This is an interesting question, lol...basically, if you differentiate:

    M = 10(0.98)^t, which can be written as:

    M = 10 e^ln(0.98^t) = 10 e^(tln0.98)

    dM/dt = 10 ln0.98e^(tln0.98)

    = 10 ln0.98 (0.98^t)

    = ln0.98 * (10 (0.98^t))

    = ln0.98 * M

    ...which is in the form dM/dt = -kM, where k = -ln0.98.

    That may take a while to decipher, lol...
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    No, that was easier for me to understand than any of the vector stuff. It's just that I've not come across a question like that until now. And in a mock paper too. Not an actual past paper. Tch.
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    do high math enough, you forget basic 2nd grade level math?

    put these numbers in order from highest to lowest, in less than one minute:


    0.1010
    0.0525
    0.676
    0.0505
    0.578
    0.1111
    0. 1727
    0.0100
    1.0101
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    [QUOTE=Gossamer skye;1181713]do high math enough, you forget basic 2nd grade level math?

    put these numbers in order from highest to lowest, in less than one minute:



    1.0101
    0.676
    0.578
    0. 1727
    0.1111
    0.1010
    0.0525
    0.0505
    0.0100
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    I came in a lil late.
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    lol.. that is brilliant you deserve reps, insha'Allah..
    actually you came in very early, the timing is in competition with your own self not with the forum...

    what is a quick way to differentiate? which is bigger and which is smaller? when you are dealing with decimals? believe it or not get me at the end of the day, and I get confused.. this was an exercise I started to get myself into 'normal lab values' of some pathological disorders.. when you stare at numbers long enough, you become confused...

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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    simple

    start with the most significant digits (leftmost ones)
    the moment you find a number with the bigger leftmost digit you don't have to look at the rest of the digits to the right, if they are the same look to the next digit to the right and follow the same procedure.
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    no it is my pleasure, thank you, I always did it the hard way, which is you'd subtract one from the other and the +ve number is bigger but your method is better..
    tis possible indeed to have your brain cells fried on the simplest of things lol like figuring out a tip at a restaurant..

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    Integrate sinX/X between negative and positive infinity...I love this problem!!!

    I want to get to know different ways of doing it.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by I.K View Post


    Integrate sinX/X between negative and positive infinity...I love this problem!!!

    I want to get to know different ways of doing it.
    This has been a mystery to me for some time, but probably the answer is somewhere out there.

    One solution I though of was using the inverse fourier transform

    since

    Fourier(sin(t)/t) => 0.5*rect(f/2)

    in the fourier integral if you set f equal to 0 (in the exponent) then the integral reduces to that of integ(sin(t)/t))

    therefore the answer would be 0.5*rect(0) = 0.5.
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    Re: Mathematics Corner :)

    The answer I get is 'pi' (neat) using residue calculus integrating over a semi circle in the upper half plane...

    In fact the integral of sinwX/X between negative and positive infinity seems to converge to 'pi' for all positive w (smart result i think!). Any other methods??? What about using Laplace transforms, would it work???
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