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    On the authority of al-Asma‘ī, that he said, “I was once walking in the village when I came across a stone. Someone had written on it:

    أيا معشر العشاق بالله خبروا **** إذا حل عشق بالفتى كيف يصنع
    O lovers! By Allah, tell me!
    If a young man is overcome by love, what should he do?

    So I wrote underneath it:

    يداوي هواه ثم يكتم سره **** ويخشع في كل الأمور ويخضع
    Let him treat his desire, then conceal his secret
    And humble himself in every matter and submit (before his Lord)

    I returned the next day and I found written underneath it:

    فكيف يداوي والهوى قاتل الفتى **** وفي كل يوم قلبه يتقطع
    But how can it be treated when that desire fights the man
    And every day his heart is torn to pieces?!

    So I wrote underneath it:

    إذا لم يجد صبراً لكتمان سره **** فليس له شيء سوى الموت أنفع
    If he is unable to be patient with concealing his secret
    Then there is nothing for him except death that will benefit!

    I then returned on the third day to find a young man lying dead at the stone. I said, ‘Lā hawla wa lā quwwata illā billāhil-‘Alī’l-‘Adhīm!’ and found that he had written before his death:

    سمعنا , أطعنا , ثم متنا فبلغوا **** سلامي إلى من كان للوصل يمنع
    We have heard and we have obeyed; now we have died so tell everyone
    My salām to the one who prevented me from attaining her.

    (Narrated by al-Abshīhī in al-Mustatrif, 1/410)


    So dear brothers and sisters, next time we give advice to such people, just remember you’re dealing with hearts full of love not vessels full of stone.

    Now a little about al-Imam, al-Hafidh: Al-Asma‘ī.

    Al-Asma‘ī was one of the early Imams and leading scholars of Arabic, Grammar and Poetry. He narrated from some of the greatest scholars in Islam such as Imām Mālik, Imām al-Shāfi‘ī, Ibn ‘Awn, Ibn Abi’l-Zinād, ‘Atā b. Abi Rabāh, Hammād b. Salamah, Shu‘bah and many others.

    He was praised by the major Imams of the Salaf, including Imām Ahmed, Imām al-Shāfi‘ī and Ibn Ma‘īn who said about him, “Asma‘ī is the most knowledgeable of all in his field.”

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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    whoah...im sure the imaam never saw that coming



    subhanAllaah what a test love is....
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    did he kill himself or died of his misery?
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    ^ I believe it's the latter.
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    subhanallah *shows us to be more cautious when giving advice
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    Jazakallah khayr...

    i should remind myself...next time if i meet any teenagers or youth who is falling in love... i should be easy on them
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!



    Jazakallah for this,

    yes love can be a good and a bad thing unfortunately. Just shows when we give advice, we should know what we are giving advice up on. Better to keep silent though.
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    format_quote Originally Posted by syilla View Post
    Jazakallah khayr...

    i should remind myself...next time if i meet any teenagers or youth who is falling in love... i should be easy on them
    I think "love" in the story is love of Allah not ones loving a human being
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    format_quote Originally Posted by yasin ibn Ahmad View Post
    I think "love" in the story is love of Allah not ones loving a human being


    It's definitely about a young man who really loved a girl. The last line says:
    My salām to the one who prevented me from attaining her.
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    We have heard and we have obeyed; now we have died so tell everyone
    Who are the 'we'? Did he commit suicide or die of grief?
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    "we" is like we in the surah Bakara's last two ayahs.(We heard and we obeyed...)
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    True...be easy with the lover.

    When teenagers say there in love ppl make fun of them and think that there just playing around.
    Seriously think before u hurt them or even better just leave the alone.
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    yasin ibn Ahmad - OK, jazakAllah kheyr.
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Al-Zaara View Post
    Did he commit suicide or die of grief?
    Personally, I think he died of grief because of the second to last line, but I don't think it would have mattered either way...
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    when it says be easy with them....surely it doesnt mean leave them alone, because unless they are married or to be married, shaytaan is taking advantage of their weak state, so you should admonish them, but nicely i guess.

    but how shhould parents go about calmly admonishing their love struck teens? , its usually a forced marriage or an honour killing if its a girl.

    life is not as simple as the title of this thread
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    wow

    JazakAllah for sharing
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sahabiyaat View Post
    when it says be easy with them....surely it doesnt mean leave them alone, because unless they are married or to be married, shaytaan is taking advantage of their weak state, so you should admonish them, but nicely i guess.
    Yeah..it's just being able to understand them and their feelings and give advise accordingly. When a person is in love, their mental state is very different, I can't even explain it in words. A person shouldn't turn around all shocked and be condescending, unfeeling or extremely rational.

    but how shhould parents go about calmly admonishing their love struck teens? , its usually a forced marriage or an honour killing if its a girl.

    life is not as simple as the title of this thread
    That's the reason most teenagers don't tell their parents about how they feel..and would rather tell their friends. If they have good friends then the situation will move towards the better...but, as is the case a lot of the time, if they have bad friends then there's a lot of harm that can come about.

    You're right, it isn't easy to get teens to talk to their parents..especially when the kids are raised here and their parents were raised back home and there is great discrepancy between both of them in terms of understanding, perspectives, and outlook. It's rare that the parents raise their kids in a way where the kid can talk to their parents about anything even being in love..it's a long process to be able to build a relationship with your kids like that and the foundation for it needs to be put right from when the kids are still very young. Unfortunately, most parents that were raised back home will try to raise their kids the way they were raised without taking into account the environment or the times and this obviously backfires when the child ends up flying in the wrong direction..
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    very true akhee,good summary of my thoughts.

    so i guess life is a bunch of lemony snickets, a series of unfortunate events lol. and Allah is testing us, so you just have to put up with what you dont have, for example, parents who are your good friends.
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abu Sayyad View Post
    Personally, I think he died of grief because of the second to last line, but I don't think it would have mattered either way...
    I think it would matter a lot...
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    Re: Be Easy with The Lovers!

    Well, couldn't he just have said " Make it Halal and thank Allah for this" ?

    I mean, he made it look like it was something very,very wrong :s No wonder the guy killed himself.
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