studying sisters?

format_quote Originally Posted by Light of Heaven

Where does it say she's not allowed? How could u speak so ignorantly and so bluntly and in the name of Islam? SubhanAllah.

Tell me oh learned one...how do you expect to have female Muslim doctors or physicians, scholars or teachers to teach other Muslim women?

Was Khadija(ra) not a business woman?

Answer plz.

^^ Now your just generalizing. You still haven't answered the rest of my post and no she didn't stop completely. And what makes you think all the sisters do this? i.e. prounce around men. Have you no shame when you talking about some of our lovely sisters like that? You make my blood boil because you are being very ignorant.

Can we close this thread. Some people are bent on denying sisters their rights and use Islam as an excuse...wallahu Alam.

format_quote Originally Posted by Light of Heaven

Have you no shame when you talking about some of our lovely sisters like that? You make my blood boil because you are being very ignorant.

I really wonder what he saw in a women that made him have such misconceptions.

yusuf18, you're a disgusting man... What you think about muslim women disgusts me to the point where my toilet is clogged up in puke. You're interacting with sisters here who represent a good proportion of the muslim female population. Would you say were 'prouncing around men' online?

Well now ur saying for you, but the whole time you've been saying Islam....Khair its fine its ok...im done with the thread.

format_quote Originally Posted by yusuf18

please dont get offended i didnt mean basicly in a nutshell for me sisters should not work or seek further eduction in islam so you hate me for and i ask allah to forgive me if i offended

I'm disgusted, not offended.

You see, I don't have a problem with whatever you want your woman to do or not do. What I have a problem with is the fact that your using Islam to support what you think is right and what you want from a muslim woman you would marry.

If what you want is for your wife to not attend university, fine, I respect that. But if you say Islam denies a woman the right to enter university, then I'll shred you.

Not really, but whatever.

format_quote Originally Posted by The Ruler

I'm disgusted, not offended.

You see, I don't have a problem with whatever you want your woman to do or not do. What I have a problem with is the fact that your using Islam to support what you think is right and what you want from a muslim woman you would marry.

If what you want is for your wife to not attend university, fine, I respect that. But if you say Islam denies a woman the right to enter university, then I'll shred you.

Not really, but whatever.

:ace:

format_quote Originally Posted by yusuf18

i just said it to keep pease islam does say it but maybe im abit strong on it allhu alam

Islam says it would good for her to be in the home, but it doesnt go on to say she cannot or its completely forbidden...that's only what you think.

For the original question, I have no problem with my wife studying before or after marriage. I would encourage it. We need our sisters educated and informed because they're the ones who'll play a major role in raising the next generation of Muslims, keeping them locked at home is impractical and honestly, quite dumb. We need sisters educated and working in professions so they can, at the very least, tend to the needs of the other sisters in the Muslim community.

I remember hearing in a lecture long ago where the speaker said something really precise. He said: "The Companions were more liberal than the conservatives of today, and more conservative than the liberals of today." Meaning, they were somewhere in the middle between the two extremes that we have today. We need a balance and an informed outlook at the current society, and need to apply the Islamic rulings in accordance. We can apply 'blocking the means' principle of Fiqh and make our societies ultra-conservative, but that's impractical, especially when living here as a minority. Our sisters deserve education and they deserve to move forward. I have not yet heard from one scholar who is familiar with the West and has grown up here and in touch with the Muslim communities and is also Islamically learned who says that sisters ought to be locked at home and that their place is the kitchen, and until I do, I'd consider anyone propagating such a biased look as out of touch with reality.

I think the fitnah out there is more for the men than the women. It's the men that are more easily found messing around. I think we can trust that our sisters are not naive and know the right from the wrong enough to go out and be active in the community. We need mothers and wives who are educated and in touch with the society for them to raise children here.

format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd al-Rahman

For the original question, I have no problem with my wife studying before or after marriage. I would encourage it. We need our sisters educated and informed because they're the ones who'll play a major role in raising the next generation of Muslims, keeping them locked at home is impractical and honestly, quite dumb. We need sisters educated and working in professions so they can, at the very least, tend to the needs of the other sisters in the Muslim community.

I remember hearing in a lecture long ago where the speaker said something really precise. He said: "The Companions were more liberal than the conservatives of today, and more conservative than the liberals of today." Meaning, they were somewhere in the middle between the two extremes that we have today. We need a balance and an informed outlook at the current society, and need to apply the Islamic rulings in accordance. We can apply 'blocking the means' principle of Fiqh and make our societies ultra-conservative, but that's impractical, especially when living here as a minority. Our sisters deserve education and they deserve to move forward. I have not yet heard from one scholar who is familiar with the West and has grown up here and in touch with the Muslim communities and is also Islamically learned who says that sisters ought to be locked at home and that their place is the kitchen, and until I do, I'd consider anyone propagating such a biased look as out of touch with reality.

I think the fitnah out there is more for the men than the women. It's the men that are more easily found messing around. I think we can trust that our sisters are not naive and know the right from the wrong enough to go out and be active in the community. We need mothers and wives who are educated and in touch with the society for them to raise children here.

JazkaAllah Khair brother

format_quote Originally Posted by yusuf18

nothing wrong with studying but the problem is further education women should stay home and meet the needs of their husband

last i remember, women were the ones considered multi-talented...

format_quote Originally Posted by yusuf18

no she carnt do both i want a wife not a husband

so now an educated woman is like a man...mmm interesting :$

format_quote Originally Posted by yusuf18

we all know sister that sisters knowdays are following the west subanallah allah says (stay in your homes)

oh and yes, i forgot, you men are like droplets of honey fallen from heaven...

has it ever crossed your mind why Muslim women want an eduction/work these days? i mean really i would honestly say that the reason is due to the physical/emotional/mental abuse handed down to them by their husbands...women therefore don't trust men, and want to seek their own means of livelihood...can you really blame us?

so if anything, you should be blaming your own gender for women supposedly following the west...what a load of rubbish...

format_quote Originally Posted by yusuf18

ever heard of a feminist muslima

ever heard of a chauvinist Muslim?

format_quote Originally Posted by yusuf18

yes she was a bussnesss woman but that was in day of iganrance and as soon as she married profhet muhamamd he took over the job

did he?

and also when she worked she didnt make money transactions with men she got a marahram to do that part of the job wear as know sisters prounce around with men in jobs

and you would know this because your one of these men who she supposedly prounces with...fear allah and bite your tongue akhee! your sisters in Islam deserve alot more respect than to have baseless accusations thrown at them!!!

Akhi, ur so called truth is half wrong!