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AntiKarateKid
OR option D: The brother who has a beard and yet does not know as much about Islam/ or pray as much/ etc as option C.
It would be difficult indeed to differentiate B and C and decide who is better since everyone has unique circumstances.
Now my point was that, from reading the post that you responded to initially and your subsequent response, a beard should be at the bottom of the list underneath praying ontime, good manners, knowledge about Islam, all of which would be better indicators of a good suitor than a beard.
Are you feeling okay? B is a loser of a muslim. Nobody can deny something that is wajib and still be considered 'good'.
What is the point of the beard if it doesn't have an effect on manners and actions? Sunna it is and a good thing to have, you need to judge by what it's supposed to create in the person.
Now THIS is a ludicrous thing to say. First go learn what sunnah means and why it is important. Any act of sunnah, not just beard.
Why do you have acts within wudhu that are not considered wajib/fard and only sunnah? Why do them? Come to think of it, how does wudhu by itself make a person better or reciting Arabic words.
Anyway, regarding post order. Why are you making this so hard?
Let's go through it step by step then, shall we.
Crazylady:^No again... I know keepin a beard is sunnah buh if prince charmin were to come along & he was perfect in every way buh jus didn't have a beard, I wouldn't turn him down..
Bedouin (I've bolded the relevant bit):Each has their own criteria but someone not keeping a sunnah beard (which is actually near compulsory) due to thinking it is not necessary/not from the deen/not worth anything means this person is far from being perfect. I wouldn't recommend such a person for marriage to a God conscious and Islamically focused muslimah.
AntiKarateKid quoting my above post ^:In my humble opinion (which may not be worth much)
this is a ludicrous statement. Do you have any idea how many guys have beards because their parents forced them? Or because they just wanted to avoid people making assumptions about their iman like you? Or just follow the crowd without any knowledge of its significance? All are for the wrong reasons.
Both these types are extremely prevalent and as common as the hijabi who wears it just because her parents wear it. There is absolutely no essential correlation between the level of iman one has and the way they choose to style the hair on their face. What gives you the right to assume otherwise? Go to any Muslim country and see the amount of beardies drinking alcohol, at the club, or even guess what? There are also those foolish terrorists in the mountains with HUGE beards
It is exactly these types of judgmental comments that make people shy away from Muslim gatherings because they don't fit physical standards. Do you seriously believe a beard is some sort of litmus test for iman?!
I never automatically assume a hijabi is more pious than a non hijabi because I don't know the intentions or context behind their actions. In a day and age where even saying Allah or praying shows courage, it is shocking to me how you could just ruin a guy's image infront a potential wife with your assumptions.
Now understand that is you that has misunderstood and my post is not 'disorganised'.
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