Ook you know how when you discover things that you never knew existed, just like that, and you can't really believe it, and pretty much everyone already knows bout it, and its so new to you... like me when i saw all those "miracles of allah" pic's ...well yeh. thats how black magic and jinn is to me...
What is black magic? issit just sihr? ok well what is sihr?
Coz like seriously last time i checked, magic is not real.
Magic is an imagination man!
How is there "black" magic?
and why is there a BLACK in magic?
Issit mean a black person do it? coz if so, that is totally racist.
but im sure its not that
and also, another thing, JINN...
way back in the day, i used to ask my mum where we're goin, she'd say "the jinn" and im like , um ok, whats jinn? and she say them invisible people, so i think its like totaly a lie, you know? Like JOKIN.
then the next thing i know people are talkin bout how jinni's are possesing people. i kno, funny innit.
You like "Wait, isn't this an islamic forum? Where people talk about SERIOUS things? dang they totally messin up the islamic image!" and so you decide not to go to that site again coz its full of bull... then you google "jinn in islam" and "jinn possesion" and all that. and you find out everyone else is talkin bout jinn...
???
WHAT is jinn??
THem invisible things that have greater power than us...
thats what i see them as.
How come jinn can suddenly have more power than us? You know in "black magic" jinn tells the "sahir" to do bad stuff to the quran, they do that...
thats stupid.
now how come jinn can do all that cool stuff like have more than one life and we can't ? Like i could swear everyone was claimin we are better than jinn...
BTW,... plzzz excuse my ignorance and all...but aren't jinn angels?
isnt the shaitan a jinni? isnt shaitan an angel too? well...used to be...
so why is jinni and angels the same thing? :blind::blind::blind:
google sucks so plz help.
EDit:
Oh did i mention, im dying to see a jinni!!
Its like "silent hill" ohhh, i wonder if they got that big sword too?
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jinns aaint angels, jinns are made from a smokeless fire, as it says in surah ar rahman aaand angels are made from light,
jinns cant have more then one life to my knowlegde, they live just like me and you, they eat sleep drink, have pets lol, they live the life like me and you, but their world is different as they can see us, but our eyesight isnt powerful enough to see them, like they say whenever you hear a donkey doo them noises, eeee ohhh seek refuge in Allah (swt) because he has seen a devil or a evil jinn, ooh and their is good and bad jinns, the bad ones are the ones who hear stuff from the angels and tell it to their magicians who control them.
black magic and magic is different, like magic is tricks and cards and hooo dee haa, and black magic is done to harm people, thats what sihr is, like evil magic, and doin that is a big sin.
a jinn is a jinn, i always used to watch them poltergeist show lol (and yes i do know half of them were fake) and i always thought that poltergeist were jinn, because you always hear ghosts possesin humans or knockin stuff over, Allah hu Alim lol, but jinns do exist, and they have their own world and they do their own thaang, their are good n bad jinn, like theres good n bad people!
i hope that helpeedd
Jaa-Ro-Nee-Mo!!!
"they ask you when will the help of Allah (swt) come! Certainly Allah (Swt) help is always near"
jinns aaint angels, jinns are made from a smokeless fire, as it says in surah ar rahman aaand angels are made from light,
But shaitan was an angel, and a jinni, "they" say. He was an angel with four wings.."They" say. But he was also a jinni..."they" say. dont that make jinni's and angels the same? Or issit a lie? Was he only an angel? or only a jinni?
jinns cant have more then one life to my knowlegde,
lemme add something "to ur knowledge" , you kno how they possess people? Meaning they can take over someone elses life completely. Make that person be america's most wanted, then after that dude go to jail they leave him, meaning they just wasted a life, took over it! Like its there life. And to add, they can take more than ONE persons life! They can make em kill others, or themselves.
they live just like me and you, they eat sleep drink, have pets, take over peoples lives, kill people, make people commit bad stuff...
emm, ahem ahem...
lol,
they live the life like me and you, but their world is different as they can see us, but our eyesight isnt powerful enough to see them,
Aha! something THEY can do but WE aren't powerful enough to do! So how is THAT make us greater than them?!
like they say whenever you hear a donkey doo them noises, eeee ohhh seek refuge in Allah (swt) because he has seen a devil or a evil jinn, ooh and their is good and bad jinns, the bad ones are the ones who hear stuff from the angels and tell it to their magicians who control them.
lool ok.
And how do they hear the angels? How come we can't hear the angels?
AHem...emmm...they bettta than us.
black magic and magic is different,
like magic is tricks and cards and hooo dee haa,
thats harmless...whys it haram then? (unless im gettin mixd up?)
and black magic is done to harm people, thats what sihr is, like evil magic, and doin that is a big sin.
HOW do you do black magic? '
Oh oh lemme guess. You walk into a old black sick webby room, with a crystal ball, start sayin oooh aaahh things and there appears a jinni and makes u do stuff for em?
a jinn is a jinn, i always used to watch them poltergeist show lol (and yes i do know half of them were fake) and i always thought that poltergeist were jinn, because you always hear ghosts possesin humans or knockin stuff over, Allah hu Alim lol, but jinns do exist, and they have their own world and they do their own thaang, their are good n bad jinn, like theres good n bad people!
But shaitan was an angel, and a jinni, "they" say. He was an angel with four wings.."They" say. But he was also a jinni..."they" say. dont that make jinni's and angels the same? Or issit a lie? Was he only an angel? or only a jinni?
u'r referring to the verse wen Allah tell the angels to bow down to adam and all of dem do EXCEPT Iblis?
he wasnt an angel but before he disobeyed Allah he was in the same level of the angels
u see he CANT be an Angel cuz he's made from fire
and bout all the jins possesing people and stuff Allahu A3lam like the brother said, there are bad jins. they take info from the angels and add alot of lies and stuff
inshallah i'll find an easy to understand article bout jins better yet u wana listen to a lecture?
Learn silence as you have learned speech.
Speech will guide you, and silence will protect you.
u'r referring to the verse wen Allah tell the angels to bow down to adam and all of dem do EXCEPT Iblis?
he wasnt an angel but before he disobeyed Allah he was in the same level of the angels
u see he CANT be an Angel cuz he's made from fire
and bout all the jins possesing people and stuff Allahu A3lam like the brother said, there are bad jins. they take info from the angels and add alot of lies and stuff
inshallah i'll find an easy to understand article bout jins better yet u wana listen to a lecture?
'mmhmm...
Ok so he was an angel, then disobeyed allah, then became...the devil?
The devil was one of the best angels, he had four wings while the others had 2....
Just a line from a book i have...
here lemme find something better.
ah nevermind. see even google tryna prove me wrong
emm anyway..
Didn't Allah create jinn's when he created humans? And adam was the first human, there was no other humans there yet. Meaning no jinn there yet.
Besides it says when Allah told the ANGELS to bow down to adam, they all did except iblis.
Sooo...
It didn't say "When allah told the angels and jinn to bow down they all did except the jinni loser wit no life (literally) iblis"
what is to prevent a person from doing something horrible and then claiming that he is innocent because he was possessed by a jinn at the time?
Nothing
Except I do not believe posession by a Jinn would be an acceptable defense under Shariah law from the little I have read it seems the action is still the person's choice. The Jinn only gave the temptation.
I am very much a novice in reading about sharia law. Hopefuly somebody can quote a finding---explaining if possession is or is not a defence under Sharia.
Except I do not believe posession by a Jinn would be an acceptable defense under Shariah law from the little I have read it seems the action is still the person's choice. The Jinn only gave the temptation.
I am very much a novice in reading about sharia law. Hopefuly somebody can quote a finding---explaining if possession is or is not a defence under Sharia.
aha. this makes sense and sounds right. the temptation may be there but you are still free (and responsible) for choosing how to respond to it.
i think yo have answered the question.
prince - i've never seen anyone being possessed and don't think i'd want to - it sounds pretty scary.
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
question authority
ah nevermind. see even google tryna prove me wrong
emm anyway..
Didn't Allah create jinn's when he created humans? And adam was the first human, there was no other humans there yet. Meaning no jinn there yet.
Besides it says when Allah told the ANGELS to bow down to adam, they all did except iblis.
Sooo...
It didn't say "When allah told the angels and jinn to bow down they all did except the jinni loser wit no life (literally) iblis"
if ur confused ur not alone
Allaah does say that:
{And [mention] when We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam," and they prostrated, except for Iblees. He was of the jinn..}[al-Kahf; 50]
It's explicit that Iblis [Satan] is of the Jinn and always was. He was never an angel, as angels are made of light and do not have free will and Iblis obviously had free will to be able to disobey the command to prostrate to Adam. Check this link:
I've heard stories that he's a jinn... that's why he can be the leader of the angels as he can further increase his odedience to Allah unlike the angels..
you can tell when someone is possessed, they are crazy.....
salam alaikum,
dear sis that started this thread, i would like to ask you something are you actually being serious about this as in doing it to gain knowledge or just to mock?
forgive if i am wrong but your responses back seemed a little sarcastic but yet again do forgive me if i am wrong and i ask Allah swt for forgiveness.
matters of jinns and black magic are not matters to be taken in too lightly nor looked int too deep, its good to have full knowledge of it but at the same time one must understand that it is not a joke and not get led by the whispers of shaytaan and do things that will only wrong themselves for eternity.
yes jinns do exist just like we humans exist, one form of Allah swt's created creatures, so do jinns and angels.
manking is made out of clay, jinns smokeless fire, angels light.
we are a part of what is apparent and seen, jinns and angels are a part of the ghaib (unseen).:blind:
we were made superior to them, although they have abilities to do things that we wouldnt even imagine one example as in space travel but none the less they are Allah swt's inferior creatures compared to mankind.
there are believing jinns and many disbelieving jinns which are referred to as the shayaatin. they are helpers of shaytaan iblis.
the believing jinns are believed to be very few and most of them out of fear for being tortured by the disbelieving ones dont wander around or get upto much asthe shayaatin cos of course they fear earning the wrath of Allah swt, they pray like we do and praise and glorify the Almighty like we do.
many of the shayaatin are believed to be of the christian faith, they reside in places like graveyards, old churches, anywhere dark and scary, near rubbish, run down places and many believe in toilets. thats why we are told to seek refuge in Allah swt when we enter the toilet.
Fortune-tellers also operate through the Qareen. The Qareen is the Jinn companion which is assigned to every human being. It is this Jinn which whispers to our base desires and constantly tries to divert us from righteousness. The Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said: "Everyone of you has been assigned a companion from the Jinn. The companions asked: Even you O' Messenger of Allah? And the Prophet replied: Even me, except that Allah has helped me against him and he has submitted. Now he only tells me to do good".
Because the Qareen is with a person all his life, it knows all that has happened to the person from the cradle to the grave. By making contact with the Qareen, the fortune-teller is thus able to make out that it is he who knows about the person. He looks in his crystal ball or the palm of a person and proceeds to amaze him with knowledge which no one else knows.
The severity of going to a fortune-teller is such that the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said: "The prayer of one who approaches a fortune-teller and asks him about anything, will not be accepted for forty days or nights" and: "Whosoever approaches a fortune-teller and believes in what he says, has disbelieved in what was revealed to Muhammed"
it is always advised to recite the 4 quls before going to sleep or at least once a day for protection.
now where does black magic come into this, black magic is the name given to magic, not because it is black or done by a black person but cos it is evil.
some pyschics go on about black magic nd white magic, black being bad white being good. well anyhow they are wrong all magic is wrong!
it is a major sin and makes one almost a kafir.
black magic is very very very common in islam, and to anyone surprise is mostly done by none other than the old pious people that we believe are true pious believers and go to for help and that claim cos they are from so and so descendants or Allah swt through their piety has blessed them with special powers errrrrrrrrrr... NO!
they are the sahirs, who decieve people and get them to commit shirk, and what is shirk.... it is one of the biggest sins that can be committed in islam.
if you are ever taken to a mulvi or a pious person for whatever reason, you may need help in and this guys starts to ask your name, your mothers name then Da..Daaaa! thats when you know that this person is a phoney decieving sahir, why cos these informations are what the jinns require.
tawiz is a form of black magic a lot of people are fooled to think that this mulvi is writing surah's of the Qur'an in it and it is nothing but protection from Allah swt well your wrong my dears.
firstly your not allowed to open the tawiz cos apparentlt it will no longer be effctive.... hmmmmm weird so how you supposed to know whats written in it.
believe you me if you ever do open it then you will know what i mean cos somewhere in that piece of paper will be something weird. MARK MY WORDS!!!
anyhow as a muslim we dont need materialistic things to be our form of protection, when i ask the mulvi for help he tells me what to recite and i do it myself. there is nothing between you and God so bringing barriers between God and yourself is only going to make matters worse for you. dua is the biggest weapon of the believer and Allah swt listens to all that supplicate to Him.
Now as regards possession jinns possess you for many reasons.
they might possess you cos your pakistani mother in law has done jaddu (black magic on you) they might possess you cos by mistake you have harmed them since they are unseen. they might possess you cos they have fallen in love with you.
ok brother prince this is the reason why i qouted what you have said...
there are symptoms to being possessed, you will be surprised that in many of the possession cases going mad is not the way of finding out if you are possessed.
there are different symptoms and trust me, if ever God forbid anyone does they will know.
i'll mention some symptoms: nightmares everynight, blackouts in perfect health, mood changes and NO im not talking about PMT everything u do is out of character and you just do not understand whats happened to you.
laziness, as in major laziness especially towards doing good and salah. constant migraine and as i said many more if anyone wants specific list i'll provide them with it.
in major cases you get the ones that brother prince said they go crazy, you get epileptic fits and loopyiness.
not there have been cases where victims have been possessed by a jinn for 10 years, the only sympton apparent were pains in certain parts of the body, where the jinn had resided in, there was one woman that came to a muslim exorcist out of desperation since the doctors had no clue or could find any reason for the pain in her leg, the healer did the required ruqya none the less although at first he re adviced her to go back to the doctors but as it happened during the ruqya the jinn spoke out.
now the way to get rid of jinns who have possessed humans is only through Qur'anic ruqya and must be done by a practising healer, cos it is not a joke and you need to know what you are doing. in minor cases it can be done yourself by simply constantly listening to certain surahs of the Qur'an and most importantly asking Allah swt in dua.
I pray that Allah swt protects us from all the evil that He has created in His creation.
This is a very good dua that i recite at least 5 times a day.
I seek refuge in Allah from the rejected shaytaan
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
I seek refuge in the complete words of Allah from the evils of what he created,
In the name of Allah through Whose name nothing on earth or in heaven can cause any harm,
He is all Hearing, all Knowing
Allah suffices me, ther is no God but He
In Him i place my sole trust
O Allah i seek refuge in you from the whisperings of satan
My Lord i seek refuge in you from their presence around me
I seek refuge in Allah's Glory and Power from the affliction and pain i experience and suffer from.
But shaitan was an angel, and a jinni, "they" say. He was an angel with four wings.."They" say. But he was also a jinni..."they" say. dont that make jinni's and angels the same? Or issit a lie? Was he only an angel? or only a jinni?
If this has not been already answer. The belief that iblis was a former angel named lucifer who rebelled against god is Christian beliefs as Allah has said
For NONE are arrogant (before their Lord). They All fear their Lord, high above them, and they do ALL they are commanded. -- Sura 16:49-50
Further more, Jinns have a free will and may or may not obey Allah, but angels have no free will and always obey Allah. Therefore the question of an angel disobeying Allah does not arise. This further supplements that Iblis was a Jinn and not an angel.
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Yuh huh! lol...
says here.
The devil was one of the best angels, he had four wings while the others had 2....
Just a line from a book i have...
here lemme find something better.
ah nevermind. see even google tryna prove me wrong
emm anyway..
Didn't Allah create jinn's when he created humans? And adam was the first human, there was no other humans there yet. Meaning no jinn there yet.
Besides it says when Allah told the ANGELS to bow down to adam, they all did except iblis.
Sooo...
It didn't say "When allah told the angels and jinn to bow down they all did except the jinni loser wit no life (literally) iblis"
if ur confused ur not alone
I believe this is a type of sufi theology
Besides that Allah said in the Quran Jinn are created from fire of hot wind [Qur'an, 15:27]
Also
Aa’ishah reported: "The Messenger of Allah (Peace & Blessings of Allaah be upon Him) said: ‘The angels are created from light, just as the jinn are created from smokeless fire and mankind is created from what you have been told about.’" (Reported by Muslim, no. 2996).
Inshallah i've made things clearer
And Allah (SWT) knows best
Wasalamu3lakum
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Reason: Merging with below
I don't think poessession is real, no evidence for it in the Qur'an or the correct ahadeeth. if you think there is evidence for possession in the qur'an or sunnah then please porvide...
myths were always used by ancient people to explain phenomenon they didn't understand. there is such a thing as a mental disorder, hallucination etc, so please don't spread superstition that ruin Islam's image. I don't mean to offend, but social myths shouldn't be confused with islam.
I don't think poessession is real, no evidence for it in the Qur'an or the correct ahadeeth. if you think there is evidence for possession in the qur'an or sunnah then please porvide...
myths were always used by ancient people to explain phenomenon they didn't understand. there is such a thing as a mental disorder, hallucination etc, so please don't spread superstition that ruin Islam's image. I don't mean to offend, but social myths shouldn't be confused with islam.
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.
Dear questioner, thanks for your question and we earnestly implore Allah to guide us all to the best and to reward us generously for our good deeds.
Scholars differ in opinion concerning the question in hand. Some say that jinn may possess human beings and some say this is not true. In fact, this question will remain controversial. Those who do not believe in the jinn possession need to reasonably explain the symptoms that the said-possessed people suffer from. On the other hand, those who adopt the other opinion take the strange cases of the said-possessed people as concrete evidence of their view, exploiting the fact that people are psychologically prepared to believe that jinn can possess their bodies.
In this regard, we would like to cite for you the following fatwa issued by the eminent Muslim scholar Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi:
Jinn are a kind of being that we cannot see as they are in reality. Allah Almighty says about Satan: “ Lo! He seeth you, he and his tribe, from whence ye see him not.” (Al-A`raf: 27)
However, jinn may appear in human form, as happened during the Prophet’s time when a jinn in a human form came to Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) while the latter was guarding the zakah of Ramadan according to the Prophet’s order. Seeing the jinn gathering food of sadaqah in his hands (without permission), Abu Hurayrah caught him and was about to take him to the Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him), but he set him free when the jinn gave him a piece of advice. When Abu Hurayrah told this story to the Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him), he (peace and blessing be upon him) said, “ that was a jinn, and he was truthful about the piece of advice, though he was a liar in fact” ( Reported by Al-Bukhari).
There are many people who claim that they have seen jinn or that they have relations with them, and some may even say they are married to a jinn. In fact, many of these claims are false. Moreover, many of those who claim that they are possessed by jinn do, in effect, suffer from psychological disorders such as schizophrenia and the like, and jinn have nothing to do with such disorders.
Moreover, Sheikh Faysal Mawlawi vice-chairman of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, further states:
Scholars have differed regarding jinn’s possession of human beings and their ability to harm and afflict them with diseases and pains. Some scholars do believe that this may happen and cite as evidence for their view Almighty Allah’s words: “ And make mention (O Muhammad) of Our bondman Job, when he cried unto his Lord (saying): Lo! The devil doth afflict me with distress and torment.” (Saad: 41)
This group of scholars have explained this verse literally and thus said that what afflicted Prophet Job (peace and blessings be upon him) in his body, possessions, and family was caused by the Satan.
On the other hand, some other scholars are of the opinion that jinn cannot possess human beings, nor can they harm them, for Almighty Allah says: “ Feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan.” (An-Nisaa’: 76) According to this group of scholars, had jinn possession and jinn’s ability to harm people been true, people might have confused jinn’s deeds with Almighty Allah’s.
Moreover, those scholars have explained the verse concerning Prophet Job (peace and blessings be upon him) in a way that goes in line with the other verses and hadiths that indicate that Satan cannot harm or influence true believers. According to them, if this is the case with true believers in general, it should also be the case with prophets, with the more reason.
In Al-Jami` li-Ahkam Al-Qur’an, vol. 15, Imam Al-Qurtubi mentioned that Imam Ibn Al-`Arabi and other scholars have explained the verse in question as that what afflicted Prophet Job (peace and blessings be upon him) in his body, wealth, and family was destined by Almighty Allah, yet Prophet Job (peace and blessings be upon him) attributed it to Satan out of extreme politeness to attribute such afflictions to Almighty Allah.
According to At-Tafseer Al-Kabir by Imam Al-Fakhr Ar-Razi, some scholars also explained this verse on the same basis, that is, the afflictions that occurred to Prophet Job (peace and blessings be upon him) were destined by Almighty Allah. Yet those scholars were of the opinion that Satan would whisper to Prophet Job reminding him of the many blessings that Almighty Allah caused him to lose so that Prophet Job (peace and blessings be upon him) might lament his losses and become displeased with Allah’s destiny for him. Prophet Job would resist such evil whispers, but Satan remained whispering those evil thoughts to him in such a strong way that Prophet Job was afraid to succumb to them. So, he prayed to Almighty Allah to help him get rid of such whispers, and that is what is referred to by “distress and torment” in Almighty Allah’s words: “ And make mention (O Muhammad) of Our bondman Job, when he cried unto his Lord (saying): Lo! The devil doth afflict me with distress and torment.” (Saad: 41)
There are two other verses in the Glorious Qur’an that tackle Satan’s influence on people; one deals with this influence indirectly and the other directly.
The first verse is “ Those who fear Allah, when a thought of evil from Satan assaults them, bring Allah to remembrance, when lo they see (aright).” (Al-A`raf: 201)
The influence here refers to the Satan’s whispering to people so that they may commit sins; it has nothing to do with the jinn’s possession of human beings.
The second verse is “ Those who swallow usury cannot rise up save as he ariseth whom the devil hath prostrated by (his) touch. That is because they say: Trade is just like usury; whereas Allah permitteth trading and forbiddeth usury. He unto whom an admonition from his Lord cometh, and (he) refraineth (in obedience thereto), he shall keep (the profits of) that which is past, and his affair (henceforth) is with Allah. As for him who returneth (to usury), such are rightful owners of the Fire. They will abide therein.” (Al-Baqarah: 275)
Imam Al-Fakhr Ar-Razi’s Explanation
According to Imam Al-Fakhr Ar-Razi, there are two explanations of this verse. The first is held by Abu `Ali Al- Gubba’ie (a follower of Al-Mu`tazilah). Al-Gubba’ie believes that Satan’s prostrating people by touch here refers to harming them via the evil whispers he tries to inculcate in their minds. It is this kind of harm that Prophet Job meant when he said, according to the Qur’an: “ Lo! The devil doth afflict me with distress and torment.” (Saad: 41)
Such evil whispers affect people of weak faith and cause them to have epilepsy. This is because those people are too weak to resist Satan’s whispers; they are in this case like cowards who faint from fear when left alone in a dark place. In this sense, Satan’s whispers have no influence on people of strong faith.
Thus, Al-Gubba’ie, reasoning the issue and citing many bits of evidence from the Qur’an and the Sunnah, refutes the claim that Satan might have far-reaching influence on people. According to him, the only influence that Satan might have is through the evil thoughts he whispers to people.
The second explanation of the verse, according to Imam Al-Fakhr Ar-Razi, is presented by Al-Qaffal (a scholar from the Shafi`i school). Al-Qaffal is of the opinion that people used to attribute epilepsy to Satan and jinn in general. They also used to describe ugly things and unfortunate events as likened to Satan or attributed to him.
Based on this belief of people, Almighty Allah describes the bad condition of usurers as that of he who arises as if prostrated by the devil’s touch. In this sense also, Allah describes the Tree of Zaqqum that springs out of the bottom of the Hellfire saying: “ Its crop is as it were the heads of devils.”(As-Saffat: 65; Tafseer Al-Fakhr Ar-Razi, vol. 7, pp. 88-89).
Az-Zamakhshari’s Explanation of the Same Verse
Az-Zamakhshari said in his Al-Kashaf, vol. 1, p. 399: The verse ‘Those who swallow usury …’ (Al-Baqarah: 275) likens the condition of usurers when they get up, to that of those hit by jinn. This comes in line with the Arabs’ belief that jinn may hit human beings and knock them down, and may even cause them mental disorder. There are many stories related by the Arabs about people seeing jinn with their very eyes. Hence, denying the people’s probability of seeing jinn is to the Arab like denying seeing concrete and material things around one.
Abu As-Su`ud was also of the same opinion as Az-Zamakhshari. This is obvious in his book: Tafseer Abu As-Su`ud. It seems to me, furthermore, that he borrowed such opinion from Az-Zamakhshari.
Al-Qurtubi’s Explanation of the Verse
Al-Qurtubi said, “ This verse clearly refutes the opinion of those who deny the jinn’s capability of harming human beings” (Al-Jami` Al-Kabir, vol. 3, p. 355).
Al-Alusi’s Explanation of the Verse
The eminent scholar Al-Alusi said that usurers would rise up on the Day of Judgment like those who are strongly hit by jinn in this world.
Al-Alusi also quoted in one of his writings the scholar Ibn `Atiyyah as saying that the verse in question likens usurers’ keenness on accumulating money and their running after this end to the condition of unstable people who move in such great haste that one may call them mad.
Al-Alusi commented on this opinion saying, “ It is obvious that this opinion contradicts what people in general hold in this respect.”
Al-Alusi also tackled the point of jinn’s beating some people and knocking them down and declared his agreement to this view. Furthermore, he strongly opposed the views of Al-Mu`tazilah and Al-Qaffal, who denied the jinn’s having any influence on human beings. They cite as evidence of their view what Satan said according to the Qur’an: “And I had no power over you.” (Ibrahim: 22)
Al-Alusi commented that Satan’s saying he has no power according to this verse refers to his inability to have thorough control or to enslave human beings, not to his inability to harm them in general.
According to Al-Alusi, there is much evidence from Shari`ah that contradicts this opinion of Al-Mu`tazilah and Al-Qaffal. For example, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “ When any human being is born, Satan touches it and thus it cries.” Another version of this hadith goes “When any human being is born, Satan touches him at both sides of the body.” The only exception in this regard is Mary and her son Jesus (peace and blessings be upon both of them), because Mary’s mother prayed to Almighty Allah as reported in the Qur’ an: “Lo! I crave Thy protection for her and for her offspring from Satan the outcast.” (Aal `Imran: 36)
There is also a hadith reported to the effect that the jinn kidnapped some person during the time of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) and then returned him. Later that person reported, “A bird like a camel came to me and carried me on a small feather of it.”
According to Al-Alusi, the predecessors and Sunni people believe that what these hadiths refer to are true events, and explaining them in a non-literal way complicates matters. It is the strict school of Al-Mu`tazilah and the like that tend to resort to complex explanations of this kind. Reviewing hadiths reported about jinn proves true their capability to harm people.
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black magic/jinni stuff
...well yeh. thats how black magic and jinn is to me...
i kno, funny innit. 
seek refuge in Allah (swt) because he has seen a devil or a evil jinn, ooh and their is good and bad jinns, the bad ones are the ones who hear stuff from the angels and tell it to their magicians who control them.
you kno the questions are stupid 
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