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    Is the cultural barrier between muslims ever going to be broken? Or is this barrier made to last forever?

    Stuff like when i walk into a pakistani mosque, people look at me nd say what are u in the right place? Well obvsly they dnt say that, but i can just see it in their eyes. Will we ever see a bengali marry a nigerian muslim? Can a white revert find a wife without they hustle or being rejected by the demanding arabs.

    Will we ever see islam as one nation, a nation in which a mosque will be full of different coloured people just like this; RainbowOverPotalaPalacePicture - Cultural Barrier?!

    Something like we see in mekkah! When people go for Haij. "And mankind is naught but a single nation."
    Holy Quran 2:213


    So what do u guys think, will his barrier ever be broken? So far i see no signs (ok mayb very little ones )



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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Yanoorah View Post
    I think thats a gneralization to say that all Arabs roll in money. Arabs have to work for a living just like you do. There are no free hand outs in the Arab World. You can n I welcome u to criticize the Royals all u like but the same doesn't go for all the civilians. You are actually discriminating n u dont even know it.
    Agreed sis.

    Anyway I think the Arab issue is one...But the different cultures out there are manyyy. You'll never get every single barrier broken. Sad but true.
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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    well

    i know a pakistani who has married a jamaican brother!

    i know a iranian who married a algerian!

    and personally

    so inshallah if we can stand in the mosques, eat and drink together, then we should be able to inter marry, but some people prefer to stick to their cultures, which is fine, as long as you marry someone for deen innaaay
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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    Masha'Allah ^^

    I made a thread much like this in the gender rooms.

    Sometimes its the family that holds a person back. It may sound mean to say this but I think that by the time us lot are grandparents (and the older generation at present are no longer with us) things will have changed insha'Allah.
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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    ^

    also before we marry we always think omg i wan my kids to speak panjabi or whatever, if i marry a white person, my kids wont learn the lingo or summin .... WHO CARES

    and also we may fear what our family think and all that,

    there is nothin wrong with marryin someone from your own community, but obviously if you find someone from a different crew or race, and their deen is better, marry them innay!
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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    At the language point, it may sound trivial to some but its true isnt it bro.

    I mean forget that, imagine marrying into a family where the inlaws want the D-I-L to learn their language...Fine I know many would do it out of love...I personally would take on a whole new language, but for it to be a requirement and a basis for rejection....Hmm
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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    So what do u guys think, will this barrier ever be broken?
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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    I aint discriminating, I would rather my kids speak my own language @ raONAR modness

    format_quote Originally Posted by chacha_jalebi
    and also we may fear what our family think and all that,

    there is nothin wrong with marryin someone from your own community, but obviously if you find someone from a different crew or race, and their deen is better, marry them innay!
    errr communication problems, culture problems, too much complication. I would rather marry into my own community[/COLOR]
    Last edited by ------; 09-16-2008 at 03:48 PM.

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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!



    format_quote Originally Posted by - Serene - View Post
    Nope
    ^Sad but true... *sigh* I wish we could just live in peace & harmony...

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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    format_quote Originally Posted by - Serene - View Post
    I aint discriminating, I would rather my kids speak my own language @ raONAR modness



    errr communication problems, culture problems, too much complication. I would rather marry into my own community[/COLOR]
    I respect u wanting ur kids to speak ur own language, but what i dnt respect is u saying that u dnt want dem 'gora kids'. For the simple fact that we have white converts in this forum(and whats wrong with white kids?).... and secondly its foreign language and not everyone understands it. So i will not continue into this, Allahuma inu ana Saim!!

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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    Thats a diffucult question but I wouldnt matter Who I Marry In my deen But Indeed It would Be difficult with Communications But Not with My culture I think

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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!



    --- I meant I want my kids to at least understand their culture, and by that they have to learnt their language. By 'dem gora kids' I meant I don't want them to only speak english because then they will forget about their culture...

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    Last edited by Muhammad; 09-17-2008 at 02:24 PM. Reason: Some content removed

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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    SubhanAllah. Anti Saaim-ah

    We all are actually.

    May Allah (swt) guide us all. Ameen.

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    care to translate?

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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    format_quote Originally Posted by - Serene - View Post


    --- I meant I want my kids to at least understand their culture, and by that they have to learnt their language. By 'dem gora kids' I meant I don't want them to only speak english because then they will forget about their culture...

    ---
    now now, everyone smile like dissssh

    if the culture is islamic, then thats fine but me personally speakin i think my culture bein a pakistanian is mashed up, its not islamic at all!

    and i agree with you on the point of not forgettin roots and that, but for mee as long as the kids dont forget they muslims its all goood

    and gora kid i was called that by them street uncles, until they didnt know i was one of them
    Last edited by Muhammad; 09-17-2008 at 02:24 PM. Reason: quoting edited posty
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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    I think I said b4, some people may be part of a rich heritage and culture and they may not want to overcome any barriers, may want to stay as they are.

    Also, knowing who you are is important I guess.
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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    format_quote Originally Posted by - Serene - View Post
    care to translate?
    its what i said before to you lol

    innee saa imun innee saa imun!

    meanin im fastin, im fastin
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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    format_quote Originally Posted by - Serene - View Post


    --- I meant I want my kids to at least understand their culture, and by that they have to learnt their language. By 'dem gora kids' I meant I don't want them to only speak english because then they will forget about their culture...

    ---
    Okok i will grow up

    Am sorry, do remember am still a trainee mod (so bare with me)

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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    format_quote Originally Posted by JσℓιєFℓєυя View Post
    I think I said b4, some people may be part of a rich heritage and culture and they may not want to overcome any barriers, may want to stay as they are.

    Also, knowing who you are is important I guess.


    Yep thats well said However i see sometimes that people take pride on where they are from, instead of taking pride on their deen.

    Its the same in sudan, a guy from southwest sudan proposed to my cousin(we are from the north) and my aunty simply rejected him because of his darker skin colour and the place in sudan he was from. While he was an engineer and was in top condition regarding his religion.
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    Personally, I would love to marry out of my culture and race. If I lived in a place where polygamy was normal, I'd have the most multicultured family ever.
    From what I've seen, inter-racial marriages takes alot of patience and there has to be compromising on each side's part more than a regular same culture marriage. I think to marry out of one's culture, you need a spouse who gets you & your culture, and knows Islam well enough to seperate the two and vice-versa. Then, you and your spouse can build a proper Islamic family & seperate the culture and include only the culture that is Islamically acceptable.
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    Re: Cultural Barrier?!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abu Sayyad View Post


    Personally, I would love to marry out of my culture and race. If I lived in a place where polygamy was normal, I'd have the most multicultured family ever.
    From what I've seen, inter-racial marriages takes alot of patience and there has to be compromising on each side's part more than a regular same culture marriage. I think to marry out of one's culture, you need a spouse who gets you & your culture, and knows Islam well enough to seperate the two and vice-versa. Then, you and your spouse can build a proper Islamic family & seperate the culture and include only the culture that is Islamically acceptable.
    Everything you just said I completely agree with. Couldn't have said it any better.
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