Is the cultural barrier between muslims ever going to be broken? Or is this barrier made to last forever?
Stuff like when i walk into a pakistani mosque, people look at me nd say what are u in the right place? Well obvsly they dnt say that, but i can just see it in their eyes. Will we ever see a bengali marry a nigerian muslim? Can a white revert find a wife without they hustle or being rejected by the demanding arabs.
Will we ever see islam as one nation, a nation in which a mosque will be full of different coloured people just like this;
Something like we see in mekkah! When people go for Haij. "And mankind is naught but a single nation."
Holy Quran 2:213
So what do u guys think, will his barrier ever be broken? So far i see no signs (ok mayb very little ones )
I think thats a gneralization to say that all Arabs roll in money. Arabs have to work for a living just like you do. There are no free hand outs in the Arab World. You can n I welcome u to criticize the Royals all u like but the same doesn't go for all the civilians. You are actually discriminating n u dont even know it.
Agreed sis.
Anyway I think the Arab issue is one...But the different cultures out there are manyyy. You'll never get every single barrier broken. Sad but true.
i know a pakistani who has married a jamaican brother!
i know a iranian who married a algerian!
and personally
so inshallah if we can stand in the mosques, eat and drink together, then we should be able to inter marry, but some people prefer to stick to their cultures, which is fine, as long as you marry someone for deen innaaay
Jaa-Ro-Nee-Mo!!!
"they ask you when will the help of Allah (swt) come! Certainly Allah (Swt) help is always near"
I made a thread much like this in the gender rooms.
Sometimes its the family that holds a person back. It may sound mean to say this but I think that by the time us lot are grandparents (and the older generation at present are no longer with us) things will have changed insha'Allah.
also before we marry we always think omg i wan my kids to speak panjabi or whatever, if i marry a white person, my kids wont learn the lingo or summin .... WHO CARES
and also we may fear what our family think and all that,
there is nothin wrong with marryin someone from your own community, but obviously if you find someone from a different crew or race, and their deen is better, marry them innay!
Jaa-Ro-Nee-Mo!!!
"they ask you when will the help of Allah (swt) come! Certainly Allah (Swt) help is always near"
At the language point, it may sound trivial to some but its true isnt it bro.
I mean forget that, imagine marrying into a family where the inlaws want the D-I-L to learn their language...Fine I know many would do it out of love...I personally would take on a whole new language, but for it to be a requirement and a basis for rejection....Hmm
I aint discriminating, I would rather my kids speak my own language @ raONAR modness
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and also we may fear what our family think and all that,
there is nothin wrong with marryin someone from your own community, but obviously if you find someone from a different crew or race, and their deen is better, marry them innay!
errr communication problems, culture problems, too much complication. I would rather marry into my own community[/COLOR]
^Sad but true... *sigh* I wish we could just live in peace & harmony...
" Its sometimes better people don't get to know you..
Cuz the more they know you, the less they understand & accept you..
Alone is better, what say " - SRK
I aint discriminating, I would rather my kids speak my own language @ raONAR modness
errr communication problems, culture problems, too much complication. I would rather marry into my own community[/COLOR]
I respect u wanting ur kids to speak ur own language, but what i dnt respect is u saying that u dnt want dem 'gora kids'. For the simple fact that we have white converts in this forum(and whats wrong with white kids?).... and secondly its foreign language and not everyone understands it. So i will not continue into this, Allahuma inu ana Saim!!
Thats a diffucult question but I wouldnt matter Who I Marry In my deen But Indeed It would Be difficult with Communications But Not with My culture I think
And as for the onewho fears standing in front of His Lord and restrainsthe soul from impure evil desires and lusts, verily, Paradise will be his abode [79:40-41]
--- I meant I want my kids to at least understand their culture, and by that they have to learnt their language. By 'dem gora kids' I meant I don't want them to only speak english because then they will forget about their culture...
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--- I meant I want my kids to at least understand their culture, and by that they have to learnt their language. By 'dem gora kids' I meant I don't want them to only speak english because then they will forget about their culture...
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now now, everyone smile like dissssh
if the culture is islamic, then thats fine but me personally speakin i think my culture bein a pakistanian is mashed up, its not islamic at all!
and i agree with you on the point of not forgettin roots and that, but for mee as long as the kids dont forget they muslims its all goood
and gora kid i was called that by them street uncles, until they didnt know i was one of them
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Jaa-Ro-Nee-Mo!!!
"they ask you when will the help of Allah (swt) come! Certainly Allah (Swt) help is always near"
I think I said b4, some people may be part of a rich heritage and culture and they may not want to overcome any barriers, may want to stay as they are.
--- I meant I want my kids to at least understand their culture, and by that they have to learnt their language. By 'dem gora kids' I meant I don't want them to only speak english because then they will forget about their culture...
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Okok i will grow up
Am sorry, do remember am still a trainee mod (so bare with me)
I think I said b4, some people may be part of a rich heritage and culture and they may not want to overcome any barriers, may want to stay as they are.
Also, knowing who you are is important I guess.
Yep thats well said However i see sometimes that people take pride on where they are from, instead of taking pride on their deen.
Its the same in sudan, a guy from southwest sudan proposed to my cousin(we are from the north) and my aunty simply rejected him because of his darker skin colour and the place in sudan he was from. While he was an engineer and was in top condition regarding his religion.
Personally, I would love to marry out of my culture and race. If I lived in a place where polygamy was normal, I'd have the most multicultured family ever.
From what I've seen, inter-racial marriages takes alot of patience and there has to be compromising on each side's part more than a regular same culture marriage. I think to marry out of one's culture, you need a spouse who gets you & your culture, and knows Islam well enough to seperate the two and vice-versa. Then, you and your spouse can build a proper Islamic family & seperate the culture and include only the culture that is Islamically acceptable.
“Do not argue with your Lord on behalf of your soul, rather argue with your soul on behalf of your Lord.” - Dhul-Nun
"It is the very pursuit of happiness that thwarts happiness." - Victor Frankl
Personally, I would love to marry out of my culture and race. If I lived in a place where polygamy was normal, I'd have the most multicultured family ever.
From what I've seen, inter-racial marriages takes alot of patience and there has to be compromising on each side's part more than a regular same culture marriage. I think to marry out of one's culture, you need a spouse who gets you & your culture, and knows Islam well enough to seperate the two and vice-versa. Then, you and your spouse can build a proper Islamic family & seperate the culture and include only the culture that is Islamically acceptable.
Everything you just said I completely agree with. Couldn't have said it any better.
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