Wife beaten up for failed marriage bid

Polygamy's legal in Malaysia? I want to have 4 wives and move to KL.

you wouldbe able to keep 4 women happy!!! Us women are very hard to please!!

I know. That's the problem okhee.

Best if I marry some traditional Kashmiri Muslim girls, lol, who aren't rebellious. ^__^;;

All women will give you a little bit of grief its their job!! to keep you on your toes!

I spoke to muslim friend in his shop while my partner and I were in there, my partner made a comment about how I was going to be the first of his wives!

so I told him off OBVIOSULY!

but our friend said in these exact words "brother, you could never cope with more than one woman like the one you have! (meaning me!) you run around after that one and moan about it, you couldnt keep 4 of her happy!!!"

and he is right!

i would make his life far to difficult!! and he knows it!!

That man should be castrated with a parang.

I agree, all jokes aside, its disgusting to hurt someone you are supposed love and cherish, I dont understand how any man can do it.

I know in Islam beating is not permitted, but is there anything else to "punish" (not brutally) anyone?

format_quote Originally Posted by buddy1

I agree, all jokes aside, its disgusting to hurt someone you are supposed love and cherish, I dont understand how any man can do it.

I know in Islam beating is not permitted, but is there anything else to "punish" (not brutally) anyone?

Well, you can't punish that woman in that scenario under any Islamic rule - seeing as she has done no wrong at all.

For very rebellious wives, you are allowed to hit her, in a means where no mark/bruise are formed and you don't hit her on the face - where you can only use your hand, or a siwaak - in a unviolent/unexaggerated manner. But, that obviously does not count towards the woman in the OP.

format_quote Originally Posted by SixTen

Well, you can't punish that woman in that scenario under any Islamic rule - seeing as she has done no wrong at all.

For very rebellious wives, you are allowed to hit her, in a means where no mark/bruise are formed and you don't hit her on the face - where you can only use your hand, or a siwaak - in a unviolent/unexaggerated manner. But, that obviously does not count towards the woman in the OP.

So you are allowed to hit her? i personally dont agree with that being permitted, What happened to talking about things, there would be a reason why she is being rebellious, so surely solving it is better than making her fear you.

format_quote Originally Posted by buddy1

So you are allowed to hit her? i personally dont agree with that being permitted, What happened to talking about things, there would be a reason why she is being rebellious, so surely solving it is better than making her fear you.

It has been made as a last resort - and it is not promoted or encouraged - just permissable, as a last resort to someone who is very rebellious.

i dont think hittin ur wife is allowed even if there is no bruises!!! if we r allowed to hit women then they r allowed to hit back. works both ways. does any 1 know if our prophet mohammed PBUH ever hit any of his wifes?????

The Qur'an makes it quite clear that you can hit your wife without injuring her. In other words, it's effectively banned. Only the psychological impact exists, not the physical one.

format_quote Originally Posted by Zahida

Hey bro you funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jazakallah. ^^;;

Actually, I was joking around. I can't imagine myself having more than one wife.

format_quote Originally Posted by mohammed_alim

i dont think hittin ur wife is allowed even if there is no bruises!!! if we r allowed to hit women then they r allowed to hit back. works both ways. does any 1 know if our prophet mohammed PBUH ever hit any of his wifes?????

Its clear in the Qur'an and hadith:

The Qur'an:
Sura (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."


Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."

Abu Dawud (2141) - "Iyas bin ‘Abd Allah bin Abi Dhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not beat Allah’s handmaidens, but when ‘Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them.

Ishaq 969 - Commands that a married woman be "put in a separate room and beaten lightly" if she "act in a sexual manner toward others." According to the Hadith, this can be for an offense as petty as merely being alone with a man to whom she is not related.

The tafsirs of the Qur'an, testify it to.

Tafsir Al-jalalayn

Men are in charge of, they have authority over, women, disciplining them and keeping them in check, because of that with which God has preferred the one over the other, that is, because God has given them the advantage over women, in knowledge, reason, authority and otherwise, and because of what they expend, on them [the women], of their property. Therefore righteous women, among them, are obedient, to their husbands, guarding in the unseen, that is, [guarding] their private parts and otherwise during their spouses’ absence, because of what God has guarded, for them, when He enjoined their male spouses to look after them well. And those you fear may be rebellious, disobedient to you, when such signs appear, admonish them, make them fear God, and share not beds with them, retire to other beds if they manifest such disobedience, and strike them, but not violently, if they refuse to desist [from their rebellion] after leaving them [in separate beds]. If they then obey you, in what is desired from them, do not seek a way against them, a reason to strike them unjustly. God is ever High, Great, so beware of Him, lest He punish you for treating them unjustly.

Tafsir Ibn Abbas

Men are in charge of women) they are in charge of overseeing the proper conduct of women, (because Allah hath made the one of them) the men through reason and the division of booty and estates (to excel the other) the women, (and because they spend of their property (for the support of women)) through paying the dowry and spending on them, which the women are not required to do. (So good women) He says: those wives who are kind to their husbands (are the obedient) they are obedient to Allah regarding their husbands, (guarding) their own persons and the wealth of their husbands (in secret) when their husbands are not present (that which Allah hath guarded) through Allah's protection of them in that He gave them the success to do so. (As for those from whom ye fear) know (rebellion) their disobedience to you in bed, (admonish them) by means of sacred knowledge and the Qur'an (and banish them to beds apart) turn your faces away from them in bed, (and scourge them) in a mild, unexaggerated manner. (Then if they obey you) in bed, (seek not a way against them) as regards love. (Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted) above every single thing, (Great) greater than every single thing. Allah has not burdened you with that which you cannot bear, so do not burden women with that which they cannot bear of affection.

So yes, it is allowed, but, not in a violent/exaggerated manner.

poor women, she even went to the other ladies house for her husband, i think he needs to wake up n see his got a queen by his side