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    OK i recently got a ticket for parking at a place where i was allowed to park at 15 minutes before but 15 minutes later it becomes a non parking spot..

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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

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    If the person needs to use the toilet and you have to let them in the house, it may be a good idea to let them use the toilet.
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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Troubled Soul View Post
    Would you let a stranger who knocked on your door in to your house?
    No, but I don't live in Scotland where that is the law.

    It is also a moot question. I know every person in the town I live in (all 48 0f them). It is very doubtful any stranger is going to knock on my door.
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    Being obligated to have helth and car insurance, because it is haram. But those who are forced/obligated by the laws they live in are excused.
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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

    Anybody here is allowed to stop by and use my toilet at any time day or nite

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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

    Louisiana is one of the few states (Probably the only state) where it is legal to shoot an uninvited person who is on your property.
    Lol I obviously should've stayed in bed. I actually read this as, '..it is legal to shoot an uninvited person to your wedding party'. The husband!?

    A federal law I do not like is the diplomatic immunity law. A foreign diplomat and his entire staff and entourage including his family can not be charged for any crime they commit in the USA. The most that can be done is expulsion from the USA.
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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

    It's the same here in Virginia...

    If someone is on your property and you tell them verbaly to get of your property and they refuse .....you can shoot them, with no ramafications.

    Keep in mind if they are standing on the curb close to the street you will be in trouble....the first ten feet in and on your property technicaly is a right-of-way for the city and is not technicaly your property.

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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Rasema2 View Post

    Being obligated to have helth and car insurance, because it is haram. But those who are forced/obligated by the laws they live in are excused.
    It's haram to have health insurance? How so?
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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amanda View Post
    It's haram to have health insurance? How so?
    Are you in Indonesia ?.

    Don't worry sister, according to Majelis Ulama Indonesia, Sharia health insurance is halal. You can find some Sharia health insurance companies in Indonesia through google with keyword : asuransi kesehatan syariah
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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amanda View Post
    It's haram to have health insurance? How so?

    If you follow the true Orthodox Islam, this is the ruling. I'll get you a ruling when it is permitted to have insurance, when you're forced, it is. http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/8889
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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

    format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    Are you in Indonesia ?.

    Don't worry sister, according to Majelis Ulama Indonesia, Sharia health insurance is halal. You can find some Sharia health insurance companies in Indonesia through google with keyword : asuransi kesehatan syariah
    And Majedis Ulma follows what form of Islam? Which aqeedah? I have to get a clear ruling by a shaikh. This is when only I know tha it is permitted:

    Secondly:

    The fact that the state makes insurance compulsory does not make it permissible; rather the burden of sin is waived from the person or company who is obliged to do that. As for the broker company which is doing this work by choice, it is guilty of sin
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    i wish all the laws had harsher punishements (at least in america) we have SOOOOO MANY repeat criminals...

    i wish that we all had DNA placed in the DNA database so when crimes did happen it would be easier to find out who did it... and i know thats super controversial but if your not doing anything bad then whats it matter if the DNA is in a databank or not....

    oh and i wish that once people reached a certain age they had to take the drivers test over again.
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    i know in kentucky (USA) they have a law that it is manditory for a person to bath/shower at least 1 time per year.....

    seriously... do they really have to tell people that????
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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Grofica View Post
    i wish all the laws had harsher punishements (at least in america) we have SOOOOO MANY repeat criminals...

    i wish that we all had DNA placed in the DNA database so when crimes did happen it would be easier to find out who did it... and i know thats super controversial but if your not doing anything bad then whats it matter if the DNA is in a databank or not....

    oh and i wish that once people reached a certain age they had to take the drivers test over again.


    Oh I disagree with you.

    There is a problem in Western countries that criminals are simply committing the offenses over and over again. One of the main sentencing principles is not being utilized is deterrence. The Sharia will do a good job if implemented correctly, of deterring people to commit crimes. I don't believe simply gathering everyone DNA will reduce crime rate, it will be a lot easier to catch criminals however the information gets leaked to the wrong people they could misuse that information. It is too risky and I think we have the Sharia as an alternative to reduce crime.

    Why do people have to take their drivers test again? That sounds tedious...
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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Grofica View Post
    i wish all the laws had harsher punishements (at least in america) we have SOOOOO MANY repeat criminals...

    i wish that we all had DNA placed in the DNA database so when crimes did happen it would be easier to find out who did it... and i know thats super controversial but if your not doing anything bad then whats it matter if the DNA is in a databank or not....

    oh and i wish that once people reached a certain age they had to take the drivers test over again.
    I think it depends upon the state how harsh the laws need to be. In the less populated states, Wyoming, Montana, South Dakota, Alaska there is very little worry about repeat offenders. The offender can not hide and nearly everybody knows who in their community has ever been convicted of a crime. Public awareness of known criminals seems to be a strong deterrent to repeating crimes.

    An example from the Bismarck Newspaper gives a better idea of what I am trying to say. These are offenders from other states who thought they could hide their pasts by moving to ND


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    Bismarck Police want you to know about three sex offenders two who have moved here from out of state...

    John Buckley recently moved to Bismarck and is living at 2510 North 8th Street. He's a moderate risk offender.

    Buckley molested a 15 year old girl in Pennington County South Dakota.

    High Risk offender Jacob Scarberry was recently released from prison. He was convicted of having sex with a 15 year old girl when he was 19 in Ohio.

    Scarberry is living at 3500 East Bismarck Expressway.

    Ronald Drager is living at 1800 East Broadway.

    He was convicted in 2000 in Adams County for sexually assaulting his two young daughters.

    Drager was recently released from prison. A high risk sex offender has moved into Mandan..

    Charles Alyea is living at 905 Pioneer Trail... He was convicted as a juvenile of having sexual contact with two girls who were 11 years old

    Timothy Profrock moved to Mandan recently

    He served time for raping a 27 year old woman he served nine years in prison for the crime in Michigan

    He's living at 1010 1st St. Northeast in Mandan

    Sex offenders are required by law to report their address to law enforcement.
    SOURCE: http://kxnet.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId=452579


    This seems to deter repeat offenders better than trying to enforce stiffer laws. No loop holes they can use. They are stuck with the entire state knowing who they are and where they live. If they are sane they will either live exemplary lives or get their tails out of ND
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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

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    Oh I disagree with you.

    There is a problem in Western countries that criminals are simply committing the offenses over and over again. One of the main sentencing principles is not being utilized is deterrence. The Sharia will do a good job if implemented correctly, of deterring people to commit crimes. I don't believe simply gathering everyone DNA will reduce crime rate, it will be a lot easier to catch criminals however the information gets leaked to the wrong people they could misuse that information. It is too risky and I think we have the Sharia as an alternative to reduce crime.

    Why do people have to take their drivers test again? That sounds tedious...

    ok the first part could get really touchy so i will try to be delecate...

    I know that we have so many repeat offenders and thats why i said we should have harsher punishments... WAY WAY WAY harsher punishments. take Saudi for example (i think its saudi but i know there are a couple of countries similar) they have some really strict punishments for people who commit crimes. they have zillions of people and like almost zero crime.

    no i do believe everyone has the right to a fair trial but if its 100% no doubt, confirmed that person did the crime... well they should get a LOT more then a few years in jail with cable and a gym... I'll just say it that way...

    for the DNA on file... it would be a lot easier to find people who were doing wrong and identify people who were injured or worse with no ID on them...

    there are so many cases were there is DNA at the scene but nothing to match it to or in rape cases then the cops would be able to identify the people.

    did you know that the military (i mean U.S.) will not run DNA samples from rape cases against the DNA they have on file? so these people just wonder around free to do it again... thats fact. and the only person that would come up is the person that is a match... everything else just wizzes by the screen at too fast a rate for a normal human eye to catch so its not a violation of privacy for the people who do no wrong.

    and about the driving thing... because so many many accidents are caused by elderly drivers who can barly or no longer see. when i first got my license i was hit and shoved out in the middle of traffic by a woman around 80 in a caddy... she hit me so hard and all she could say to the cops is she didnt see the light was red. it had been red for a while. i was almost hit by cross traffic... im not saying take the license away im just saying check the eye and reaction time... i know some states do it but not all.

    oh and one more while i am thinking about it... i know there were a few cases where someone broke into someones home and hurt their ankle or whatever breaking into the house and sued the owners and won... that sooooo needs to be changed too!

    i could so go on forever....
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    For anybody here with an iPhone or PDA phone there are apps that are availible for free that list sex offenders within a certain area related to your address, I think 100 miles. Check it out it really is a good app. You will be amazed at how many it shows around you and it shows their pic, address and everything. And it's available all over the world!

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Grofica View Post
    i know in kentucky (USA) they have a law that it is manditory for a person to bath/shower at least 1 time per year.....

    seriously... do they really have to tell people that????
    I believe that goes back to the days of discrimination against native Americans and was used to harass them by arresting them every time they came into town and saying they had not bathed in the past year because of their dark skin.
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    When is it permitted to have health insurance?

    Car insurance

    But if it is compulsory insurance and one has no choice, then it is permissible to take out car insurance, for example, and the sin is on those who forced others to do it, based on the principle of “necessities which make forbidden things permissible”.

    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/102969

    Life insurance

    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/10805
    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/39474/insurance

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    Re: Laws you disagree with in your country?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    I believe that goes back to the days of discrimination against native Americans and was used to harass them by arresting them every time they came into town and saying they had not bathed in the past year because of their dark skin.
    you know... now that you say that i can totally see why they made it... (rolling eyes at the law)

    dont get me wrong i do NOT agree with it but now i can see why they would have passed such a dorky law.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Grofica View Post
    oh and i wish that once people reached a certain age they had to take the drivers test over again.
    Being an older citizen myself I believe I can speak for some of us old timers, I favor that law as does everybody I know in my age group. I do not want to be a hazard to others if my health deteriorates to the point it affects my driving. I do not want to be like the old man in the joke:

    Two young men were discussing how they would prefer to die. One finally says: "I would like to die like my 90 year old uncle did. Quietly and peacefully in his sleep. Not hollering and screaming like the passengers in his car."
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