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    Everybody tells me that god is controlling people's wealth . God will give someone more than another he can make the rich richer and the poor poorer.


    Some people tells me that (No matter what i do) i will only get Whats written for me when it comes to money.


    Is money also another thing that is controlled and written for people during their life time?
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    Re: God divides the wealth?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Getoffmyback View Post
    Is money also another thing that is controlled and written for people during their life time?
    Yes, I think the wealth (rizk) is written : that means the amount of rizk that one collects in his whole life is fixed before his birth;

    But the way how we collect this money is left to us to decide it. If I am supposed to gain $1,000 I will get them whatever happenes, but it's up to me how to gain them : I can work hard an get them for halal, or I can stole them or get them by 'riba'.
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    Re: God divides the wealth?

    format_quote Originally Posted by marwen View Post
    Yes, I think the wealth (rizk) is written : that means the amount of rizk that one collects in his whole life is fixed before his birth;

    But the way how we collect this money is left to us to decide it. If I am supposed to gain $1,000 I will get them whatever happenes, but it's up to me how to gain them : I can work hard an get them for halal, or I can stole them or get them by 'riba'.
    The way you will earn that money is also written. Everything is written.

    Is rizq something which is pre-determined, just like my skin color, or it is pre-determined based on God's foreknowledge of how much I will obtain?
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    Re: God divides the wealth?

    format_quote Originally Posted by mad_scientist View Post
    The way you will earn that money is also written. Everything is written.
    I meant the way we earn money is not pre-determined. But, yes Allah know it in advance.
    Last edited by marwen; 03-27-2010 at 12:53 PM.
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    Re: God divides the wealth?

    format_quote Originally Posted by marwen View Post
    I meant the way we earn money is not pre-determined. But, yes Allah know it in advance.
    hmm, who told you that? Everything is written in Lohun Mahfooz, this includes the way we earn money.


    Are rizq (provision) and marriage written in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz?
    Are rizq (provision) and marriage written in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz?.

    Praise be to Allaah.
    Everything from when Allaah created the Pen until the Day of Resurrection is written in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz, because when Allaah first created the Pen, He said to it: “Write.” It said: “My Lord, what should I write?” He said: “Write what is to be. So at that moment it began to write what would be until the Day of Resurrection. And it is proven from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that when the foetus in its mother’s womb is four months old, Allaah sends an angel to breathe the soul into it and write down its provision, its lifespan and its deeds, and whether it is doomed or blessed.

    Provision is also written down and connected to its means, and it does not increase or decrease. Among those means are that man should work to seek provision, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “He it is Who has made the earth subservient to you (i.e. easy for you to walk, to live and to do agriculture on it); so walk in the path thereof and eat of His provision. And to Him will be the Resurrection”

    [al-Mulk 67:15]

    Other means are:

    upholding ties of kinship, such as honouring one’s parents and upholding ties with relatives. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever would like his provision to be abundant and his lifespan to be extended, let him uphold his ties of kinship.”

    Fearing Allaah (taqwa), as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “And whosoever fears Allaah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make a way for him to get out (from every difficulty).

    3. And He will provide him from (sources) he never could imagine. And whosoever puts his trust in Allaah, then He will suffice him. Verily, Allaah will accomplish his purpose. Indeed Allaah has set a measure for all things”

    [al-Talaaq 65:2-3]

    Do not say “Provision is foreordained and limited and I will not do any of the things that lead to it,” because this is helplessness; smartness and resolve mean striving to seek provision and that which will benefit you in religious and worldly terms. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The smart man is the one who takes stock of himself and strives to do that which will benefit him after death, and the helpless one is the one who follows his own whims and desires and engages in wishful thinking, (assuming that Allaah will forgive him regardless of what he does and that he does not need to strive to good deeds).”

    Just as provision is written and connected to its means, so too marriage is also written and preordained. For both spouses it is written that he or she will be the spouse of this particular person. Nothing is hidden from Allaah on earth or in heaven. End quote.

    And Allaah knows best.

    Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him)


    Fataawa Noor ‘ala al-Darb (p. 36).

    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/112107/rizq
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    Re: God divides the wealth?

    format_quote Originally Posted by mad_scientist View Post
    hmm, who told you that? Everything is written in Lohun Mahfooz, this includes the way we earn money
    I'm talking about a different concept. I know that everything is writtin in the "al la'oh al mahfooz". Yes Allah knows everything in advance, even the actions that we do to earn money. But with the rizk issue there is 2 different concepts :

    1) the amount of rizk we will earn : it is written in the lohun Mahfooz, and also it's destiny, I mean we are not free to change this rizk to make it less or more.

    2) the way we earn the rizk : it's also written in the lohun Mahfooz, but in life we are free to choose the way we earn it, though Allah knows in advance what will be our final actions. And our final decision will be conform to the louhun Mahfooz.


    if Allah dosen't let us the freedom to choose our actions, he will not judge us about what we did.
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    Re: God divides the wealth?

    format_quote Originally Posted by marwen View Post
    I'm talking about a different concept. I know that everything is writtin in the "al la'oh al mahfooz". Yes Allah knows everything in advance, even the actions that we do to earn money. But with the rizk issue there is 2 different concepts :

    1) the amount of rizk we will earn : it is written in the lohun Mahfooz, and also it's destiny, I mean we are not free to change this rizk to make it less or more.

    2) the way we earn the rizk : it's also written in the lohun Mahfooz, but in life we are free to choose the way we earn it, though Allah knows in advance what will be our final actions. And our final decision will be conform to the louhun Mahfooz.


    if Allah dosen't let us the freedom to choose our actions, he will not judge us about what we did.
    that is true. I think your wording was confusing. Now is more clear.
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    Re: God divides the wealth?

    format_quote Originally Posted by mad_scientist View Post
    I think your wording was confusing.

    I'm sorry for that. I think my english is not really good, I'm trying to improve it
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    Re: God divides the wealth?

    this is the first time i read the word laohun mahfooz. is It something incorporeal ? If i translate it ,it will be something like scripture? But this scripture is invisible and have invisible effects on the humans ? What is exactly?
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    Re: God divides the wealth?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Getoffmyback View Post
    this is the first time i read the word laohun mahfooz. is It something incorporeal ? If i translate it ,it will be something like scripture? But this scripture is invisible and have invisible effects on the humans ? What is exactly?
    it's a book/tablet, where is written every thing that happened, and every thing that will happen
    your can see this link for more details and explanation.
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    "O you who believe! Fear ALLAH as He should be feared" [aal 'Imraan, 102]

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    Re: God divides the wealth?

    format_quote Originally Posted by marwen View Post
    it's a book/tablet, where is written every thing that happened, and every thing that will happen
    your can see this link for more details and explanation.
    Nice really nice i really want to understand it So i need to read it many times and sure i have to translate some words too. Thanks.
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    Re: God divides the wealth?

    Salaam/Peace

    format_quote Originally Posted by Getoffmyback View Post
    Everybody tells me that god is controlling people's wealth .

    God has power over all things. God gives us free will , conscience . So , we must strive for halal/ lawful income . So , Pray and keep trying to get wealth in a halal way and how much can u earn , leave it on God Almighty .
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