Truth about the Taliban

BS I bet not even a quarter of these attacks were by the taliban, go ask your govt why american 'security' companies such as blackwater are present in pakistan, ask them why they bomb civilians

incidents such as the peshawar market attack and attack on islamic university have already been denied


anyway I'm not interested in the pak taliban, I doubt they will be able to make pakistan a shariah country

^SubhaanAllaah

format_quote Originally Posted by mad_scientist

Using the Western media to propagate agaisnt Taliban? Isnt it the West that you guys are against?

This is my pet peeve right now, when people say your using Western Media obviously its going to make the Taliban look like "raping, woman degrading apes" well true but then you go and use Pro Anti Western Propaganda to prove your point obviously its going to make America and all the rest of the west as "oppressive, imperialistic oil stealing terrorists with soldiers raping and murdering " , usually it'll on show you half the picture to get there point across though i don't agree with the war, you all can't sit in your comfy western probably Chinese made or Ikea computer chair, starring into probably a Dell computer screen and talk about the" truth" of Afghanistan like you know the Taliban and you've been there and seen it with your own eyes what really is happening.......Sorry Bro's n Sister if I'm offending, I'm jus saying....................

In the name of Allah the most Gracious, the most merciful!

Asalamu Alikum Wr Wb:

Sorry for a late reply but I've like loads to say now!

The article I posted before highlights deaths by suicide bombers which according to me are Taliban. You people say that no they aren't. So do you have any proofs too? So I think that rightly cancels out the first post.

Now to prove my point, I'll have to give you links where Talibans accept the responsibility of attacks. Right? And inshAllah i'll! But we will go one by one. Okay? Here are first two of mine.

Taliban claim responsibility for Kohat blasts:

Taliban suicide bomber kills 11 in Pakistan:

Please wait patiently. I'm coming with more inshAllah!

format_quote Originally Posted by An33za

In the name of Allah the most Gracious, the most merciful!

Asalamu Alikum Wr Wb:

Sorry for a late reply but I've like loads to say now!

The article I posted before highlights deaths by suicide bombers which according to me are Taliban. You people say that no they aren't. So do you have any proofs too? So I think that rightly cancels out the first post.

Now to prove my point, I'll have to give you links where Talibans accept the responsibility of attacks. Right? And inshAllah i'll! But we will go one by one. Okay? Here are first two of mine.

Taliban claim responsibility for Kohat blasts:

Taliban suicide bomber kills 11 in Pakistan:

Please wait patiently. I'm coming with more inshAllah!

It seems you're ignoring my posts, so im not gonna bother replying to you

and don't derail the thread, its about the afghan taliban not the pak taliban

format_quote Originally Posted by mad_scientist

God, enough of emotional blackmailing. That list provides the numbers of people killed. Its sad, really. But where is the evidence that Taliban KILLED those people?

I thought to first ignore you but still... WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT TALIBANS DIDN'T KILL THOSE PEOPLE?

format_quote Originally Posted by mad_scientist

Using the Western media to propagate agaisnt Taliban? Isnt it the West that you guys are against? Ooh wait, you guys have full access to Western TV in Pakistan and quite enjoy Western TV series. Not to mention your music. Ooh yea, Sufi Rock eh.

Doesn't offend me at all! And what proof do you have that I listen to music? If you don't know about anything, then isn't it better to work with wisdom and not pass any comments?

format_quote Originally Posted by mad_scientist

How many innocent people Pakistani army killed? How many innocent people MQM killed? How many innocent people Musharraf killed? You seem to be out of your senses, sister.

And you are totally going insane! To tell you the truth, your user name "mad" suits you! Believe me!

And did I ever in my whole life say that I support Musharaf, Pakistani Army etc??? You are so busted! MashAllah! YOu people support Pakistani Taliban and that is why I'm giving you reasons to not support them!

format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77

BS I bet not even a quarter of these attacks were by the taliban, go ask your govt why american 'security' companies such as blackwater are present in pakistan, ask them why they bomb civilians

For God's sake! Did I ever mention that I am only against Pakistani Talibans and not black water etc?! What's wrong with you people? I hate both Pakistani Talibans as well as black water etc. Right now in this thread I'm only giving my reasons to hate Pakistani Talibans because here you people seem to be supporting Pakistani Talibans! In another thread where you may talk about black water, there I'll give my reasons to hate it too! As simple as that!
I don't deny that "black water's contribution to Pakistanis' slaughter but I also don't deny at all Pakistani Talibans killing us! But some of you here are supporting Pakistani Talibans and that is just so shocking!

format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77

anyway I'm not interested in the pak taliban, I doubt they will be able to make pakistan a shariah country

Good! Because Pakistani Talibans know nothing of Islam!

format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77

It seems you're ignoring my posts, so im not gonna bother replying to you

I'm not ignoring! Go read the previous post of mine! I'm just one person here answering two people and it would obviously take time!

format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77

and don't derail the thread, its about the afghan taliban not the pak taliban

Really? Am i the one who started supporting Taliban? It was some of YOU people here and so I had to give my proofs!

The fact is that on both sides have wrongs. The Taleban do destroy womens school, ban TVs/ videos and force men not to shave and women to wear Burqas. - Its very hard to stick up for them realy - its like sticking up for the saudis about women driving?

The only thing you can say is good about the taleban is that they are fighting countries which are indvading there land - which they have every right to do so as Nato or any other power has no right to invade them.

The pak army are the puppets of the US and Nato as Zardari has his own interests to think about - He needs a place to stay when hes not the president. Not only that if pakistan didnt go with the US with this war then they would have also been fighting a war against the US. Pakistan being a weak nation is now even in a worse state - those bomb blasts do happen nearly every week in pakistan - its the country that has had more terrorists attacks then any other country in this past year - thanks to the US and its Nato allies and there stupid war stupid war.

They are destroying the two countries as we speak.

I don't know.

format_quote Originally Posted by S<Chowdhury

Brother you really see the Taliban as the only hope for the Ummah.....oh jeeez i hope they aren't, by all means we should be able to defend our country in the face of foreign invasion but now your trying to make the Taliban out to be some sort of saint ? Giving rights to Women and Wiping Out the Drug Trade ?

I totally agree!

@ brother aadill:
And brother, if you didn't agree with my point, you could have just ignored it! I was only giving my opinion! I don't take Taliban as my "only" hope! I take Daees of Allah as a hope and please not the "only hope but just "a" hope!

And then it was all you people here starting to support murderers and not accepting the facts that Talibans killed many in Pakistan! You people were supporting them, making them look like saints, and sort of propounding that they didn't kill any! This I found totally wrong and I would never support anything which is wrong!

Okay people, brother aadill77 minds me posting here so I'll create a new thread describing all the suicide attacks done by Pakistani talibans! And I won't present to you one sided picture! I would only give you those reports in which Pakistani taliban accepts the responsibility of suicide attacks so as to eliminate all the doubts and to shut the mouth of people who support falsehood and lies! InshAllah!

^Sister, from what I've understood bro Aadil also disapproves of such deeds.

Aslaamu`3Laaykum and
Yo Sistahs and Brothaz seee this :

"If you cannot be of benefit to the Muslims, then do not harm them; if you cannot make them happy, then do not make them sorrowful; if you cannot please them, then do not abuse them; and if you cannot praise them, then do not disparage them."
[Yahya ibn Mu’adh]

Please dont be angry with me sorry, just trynna cheer people up (not saying anyone is upset/down or whatever!) Just felt lyk it

So yeah and smile

Wa`3Laaykum Salaam

Ps.(I apologise sincerely if i have gone off topic)

format_quote Originally Posted by An33za

"wipping drugs out" is what I agree but I don't at all agree with this clause "their genuine dedication to islam". Do you know they even banned women going to school?! Is this what Islam says?? Is this?

Prophet's hadith is that "it is compulsory for every Muslim men and women to seek knowledge". So are they supporting and implementing this? Are they? And you know the answer!

misconception that the taliban don't allow for women to be educated! one of our family friends is afghani, and she's a qualified dentist!

^ Of course people would still be dentist and doctors even if Taliban doesn't allow it! That doesn't make sense! I read it in news that Talibans banned Muslimahs school. They even blasted their school buildings. Not all of the Afghani Talibans are bad! But some of their policies are!

There are still thousands of Afghani women who are educated! So that doesn't change the fact that Talibans banned girls' schools!

^just out of pure interest, what media, other than the likes of CNN, and secularist/modernist media based outlets have you actually heard this from? has it been confirmed by someone reliable or has it been confirmed by someone with an agenda?

I really doubt if any of us know who the Taliban are. It does not seem to be any centralized unit and consists of various groups of young people with idealistic views. Like all groups each is individual some good and some bad. Many wear the name Taliban. some are/were former CIA operatives that were fighting Russians for America. Some are/were mecenaries recruited by the various tribal chiefs to keep the populace in line. Others may or may not be genuine sincere Muslims fighting for the cause of Allaah(swt).

But there is some reason so many scholars and Teachers throughout India,Afghanistan and Pakistan are opposed to the Taliban.

The Taliban ("Students of Islamic Knowledge Movement") seems to be a movement rather than any particular group. the ideals of the movement I strongly support. But does any group that follows the Taliban ideals exist and if so where are they? It seems every group who is claiming to be ousting foreign troops is using the name Taliban. I fear some of these groups may prove to be worse than Black Water or the NATO forces. Because a group is fighting under the name of Taliban is no guarantee they are fighting for Islam.