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    Is learning magic haram? (OP)


    Asalamu Alaykum. I found this topic interesting, but is it halal to learn magic without using it the bad way?

    I spoke to a lot of wiccans and sufis about this, many who call themselves muslims and say it's fine as long as u dont misuse it

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by View Post
    Some magic can eventually heal I have got told. I dunno if it's magic or something else though.


    Ruqyah heals.

    Magic leads you to kufr. Absolutely forbidden.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    format_quote Originally Posted by breezes View Post
    allah bless you brother .
    Indeed, Allah bless me. And bless you dear sister, and bless us.

    w/salam

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    Here's the basis why magic is absolutely haram:


    The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Whoever blows on knots practices magic, and whoever practices magic is a mushrik (polytheist).” (Reported by At-Tabarani)

    `Abdullah ibn Mas`ud reported, “Anyone who goes to a diviner, a practitioner of magic or a soothsayer, asking something and believing in what he says, denies what was revealed to Muhammad.” (Reported by Al-Bazzar and Abu Ya`la)


    "And they followed what the Shaitans chanted of sorcery in the reign of Sulaiman, and Sulaiman was not an unbeliever, but the Shaitans disbelieved, they taught men sorcery and that was sent down to the two angels at Babel, Harut and Marut, yet these two taught no man until they had said, "Surely we are only a trial, therefore do not be a disbeliever." Even then men learned from these two, magic by which they might cause a separation between a man and his wife; and they cannot hurt with it any one except with Allah’s permission, and they learned what harmed them and did not profit them, and certainly they know that he who bought it should have no share of good in the hereafter and evil was the price for which they sold their souls, had they but known this.” (Al-Baqarah: 102 )‏

    "Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of the dawn. From the evil of what He has created. And from the evil of the utterly dark night when it comes. And from the evil of those who blow on knots. And from the evil of the envious when he envies.” (Al-Falaq: 1-5)

    “Those who swallow down usury cannot arise except as one whom Shaitan has prostrated by (his) touch does rise. That is because they say, trading is only like usury; and Allah has allowed trading and forbidden usury. To whomsoever then the admonition has come from his Lord, then he desists, he shall have what has already passed, and his affair is in the hands of Allah; and whoever returns (to it)-- these are the inmates of the fire; they shall abide in it.” (Al-Baqarah: 275)



    "Verily whoever sets up partners with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise for him and the fire will be his abode. And for the Zalimun (Polytheists, and wrongdoers) there are no helpers." (QS. Al-Maaidah 5:72)


    “The hadd (prescribed punishment) for the practitioner of magic is a blow with the sword (i.e., execution).”
    (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1460; al-Daaraqutni, 3/114; al-Haakim, 4/360; al-Bayhaqi, 8/136; see al-Silsilah al-Da’eefah, 3/641, no. 1446


    Muslim narrated in his Saheeh that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever goes to a fortune-teller and asks him about something, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days.”


    And it was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever goes to a soothsayer and believes what he says has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).”


    Narrated by Abu Dawood and by the four authors of al-Sunan; classed as saheeh by al-Haakim who narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever goes to a fortune-teller or soothsayer and believes what he says has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).”


    And it was narrated that ‘Imraan ibn Husayn (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “He does not belong to us who observes bird omens or has that done for him, or who seeks divination or who has that done for him, or who practices witchcraft or has that done for him. Whoever goes to a soothsayer and believes what he says has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).” Narrated by al-Bazzaar with a jayyid isnaad.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Zuzubu View Post
    Guys, it's fine u say magic is haram, but LEARNING IT?
    Learn magic is haram. But make a research about magic and magician actually is not haram, as long as you make this research from outside.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    And instead of magic, it would be much better for you to learn ruqyah:

    Here's a good article on ruqyah: n http://www.missionislam.com/health/quranhealing.html

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Zuzubu View Post
    The guy said "I am both muslim and wiccan"
    He can't be. He can say that he is, but he's not.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    format_quote Originally Posted by JeffX View Post
    He can't be. He can say that he is, but he's not.
    Ya IKR..

    I'll try reading some ruqyah, figuredout wutever it is.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    Stop playing world of warcraft!

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    Surah Al Baqarah - Verse 102

    They followed what the Shayâtin (devils) gave out (falsely of the magic) in the lifetime of Sulaimân (Solomon). Sulaimân did not disbelieve, but the Shayâtin (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two (angels,) Hârût and Mârût, but neither of these two angels taught anyone (such things) till they had said, "We are only for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us)." And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between man and his wife, but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allâh's Leave. And they learn that which harms them and profits them not. And indeed they knew that the buyers of it (magic) would have no share in the Hereafter. And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their ownselves, if they but knew. (102)



    Surah Al-Falaq

    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

    Say: "I seek refuge with (Allâh) the Lord of the daybreak, (1) "From the evil of what He has created; (2) "And from the evil of the darkening (night) as it comes with its darkness; (or the moon as it sets or goes away) (3) "And from the evil of those who practise witchcrafts when they blow in the knots, (4) "And from the evil of the envier when he envies." (5)


    Practicing Black Magic is Haram, I have heard a scholar say whoever practices it is out of the fold of Islam
    Allah Azzawajal Knows Best

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    I feel that being associated with it in anyway, whether it be learning it or practicing it or even having long discussions about it and wasting time talking about it is not good.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    So is it Ok to learn it for fun like to show your friends and just have fun?

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    why would you want to learn such a twisted thing?
    Is learning magic haram?

    ...desperate for husnul-khitaam...


    please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.


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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    If you want to learn magic, just wave a stick around and say stuff in Latin.

    I thought you meant "magic" as in magician acts. Those aren't haraam are they? It's just illusions and stage props.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    format_quote Originally Posted by View Post
    Stop playing world of warcraft!
    Just curious. What's the connection between magic and World of Warcraft? As far as I have found out, World of Warcraft is just a bunch of pixels. I haven't found anything real in World of Warcraft yet.
    Is learning magic haram?






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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    Illusion is certainly permissible. Real magic (why do people get so snooty about believing it to be real even though the Koran and sunnah repeatedly confirm it and even tell us to pray for protection from it?) is not. Wicca is called a form of neopaganism for a reason. They believe in a goddess as well as a god, and not in Allah. The Koran tells us to pray to be shielded from the spells of "women who blow on knots"; does that sound to any of you like it's depicting magic as either false or potentially good? Read the sunnah on the matter.

    There's no reason to learn how to do something we are not allowed to do.
    Is learning magic haram?

    Peace be to any prophets I may have mentioned above. Praised and exalted be my Maker, if I have mentioned Him. (Come to think of it praise Him anyway.)

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    format_quote Originally Posted by ThisOldMan View Post
    Just curious. What's the connection between magic and World of Warcraft? As far as I have found out, World of Warcraft is just a bunch of pixels. I haven't found anything real in World of Warcraft yet.
    Did Abdullahii ever makes a serious post ?.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    If performing it is forbidden then obviously being associated with it in any way is also wrong.
    Is learning magic haram?

    "Make the most of your life before your death." ~Islamic Quote


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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    *Waves wand* Lumos Maxima!

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    It's a good thing that someone pointed out the World of Warcraft comment was a joke; it headed off a HUGE rant from me! XD

    I was a Wiccan priestess for several years; then renounced it, went without a religion for an equal period of time, before finding the Truth in Islam. And I can tell you, there is absolutely, positively, NO WAY that you can be both Wiccan and Muslim. One of the whole foundations of Wicca is that while you recognize Divinity, you worship each "aspect" of it separately. The best equivalent I could give is if you took all the names of Allah and worshiped them as separate gods. Another point in the religion is the belief that power, in the form of magic, comes from within each person (and tree, and rock, etc.) that while it is a part of the Divine, it is separately controllable by individuals. There's a lot more to it, but just those two things should be enough to show anyone that Wicca and Islam can't go hand in hand. If you see this person again, perhaps you can educate them . . . a lot of Wiccans like to think that their faith not only equates them with every other religion, but somehow puts them "one up" on others.

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    Re: Is learning magic haram?

    ^i dont know much about wiccan other than i used to have a friend who was wiccan and i would have to agree with what you say. claiming to be wiccan and being muslim at the same time is...foolish.

    If you want to learn magic, just wave a stick around and say stuff in Latin.

    I thought you meant "magic" as in magician acts. Those aren't haraam are they? It's just illusions and stage props.
    its probably best not to go anywhere near magic be it in good heartedness or otherwise because even though one may have a clean and innocent intention, most often than not in such cases where one intends a good thing by approaching a bad thing, unfortunately the result is otherwise and the consequences arent so great.
    Last edited by Ummu Sufyaan; 03-19-2011 at 07:28 AM.
    Is learning magic haram?

    ...desperate for husnul-khitaam...


    please make dua that Allah grants me a good end (to my life). please make dua that Allah guides me.



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