truthseeker63's Corner

Salam alaykum;

do you keep Bin Laden as role model of muslim (as if he kept photos or not)? Why not trust at the first place to scholars?

format_quote Originally Posted by Karl

The main purpose of prayer is not to glorify God all day but to take your mind off your own petty problems.

Very interesting observation. Did you get that from the Holy/Noble Quran or do you have other official Muslim resources, too? If you have other official/unofficial resources for information on Islam, please post a link/links so that I can learn about it, too.

format_quote Originally Posted by Karl

It's called the Noble Quran.

Nope. It's called the Quran. Other adjectives can be added to it though (like with most nouns...) so we can get "The Noble Quran", or a number of other things like "The Glorious Quran", or "The Holy Quran", etc... The Quran itself swears by "Al-Quran al-Hakeem" which would translate to "The wise Quran" (Surah Ya-Sin, verse 2)

Greetings and peace be with you truthseeker63;

Did you get to see the Imam last week, and how did you get on?

In the spirit of searching for God

Eric

I am also interested to know how your date with the imam went. Inshallah it was all good and joyous journey and now comes the part where what you have learnt you can put into practise.

Asalaam walekum,
Brother Karl, I have read through all the pages and see that you have said some things that scientifically make sense, but your view of the Quran regarding the human race well you seem very confused.
I also believe race is not a myth, we as humans come in different colours the main factor and different physical characteristics. Some physical characteristics are more general to certain races than others. For example people of black skin colour in the males generally larger skulls, thick hair gradient, flat wider noses, naturally muscular physique, tall height etc. In the chinese slanty eyes, yellowy skin colour, short heights, semites large noses etc. I dont want to go through all the races.
As far as I am aware when Allah created Adam He took clay from different parts of the world, hence his offspring is of different colours. What gives you this mad idea that we arent all offspring of Adam and Eve. Havent you read the Quran, the story of Habil and Qabil. How mother Eve had twins a boy and girl, then again a boy and girl. The first twin boy was allowed to marry the second twin girl and the first twin girl was allowed to marry the second twin brother. Incest in this case allowed, but the twins born at the same time were not allowed to marry. So please stop this nonesense about we dont all come from Adam and Eve.
Chimps have 90% human dna does that mean chimps are a species of humans? Of course not. Allah has honoured mankind as his best creation. We may have different characteristics physically and visually, but we are all able to recite the revelation of Allah and worship Him which is our main purpose in life. For example for certain laguages you use certain parts of the brain which you dont in other languages.
Allah knows best

Going over brother Karl's posts again, certain thoughts passed through my mind. It is not a good thing to harbor bad thoughts about other people so I will post some of those thoughts here so that they can be corrected as need be.

1. In his avatar, under religion, it says "Muslim". Truth be told, he's the first Muslim that I have ever met who did not believe that all mankind are descended from Adam and Eve. Perhaps the word "Muslim" in his avatar was a typo?

2. His username makes me think of a blue-eyed blond-haired type of person. Then he alluded to some Saudi publications which, so far, he could not show us at all. Makes me wonder what race he actually is. Could he actually be just a non-Muslim who had read a bit about Islam from some publications which he thought were authoritative since he thought they came from Saudi Arabia?

I really hope that my thoughts are way off-target and that he is just a young Muslim child who had never been taught any better about Islam. WaLLahu aklam.

format_quote Originally Posted by ThisOldMan

1. In his avatar, under religion, it says "Muslim". Truth be told, he's the first Muslim that I have ever met who did not believe that all mankind are descended from Adam and Eve. Perhaps the word "Muslim" in his avatar was a typo?

Both Muslims and Christians believe in the Adam and Eve story. Some Christians believe in polygenism (though I will admit most don't), so I can't see any reason why Muslims can't either. I am not necessarily saying there was "no" Adam and Eve, but I AM saying that if the Adam and Eve story IS true then I simply won't buy it that all different human races around the entire planet descended from just ONE PAIR. There must have been many pairs. Again, I don't give a d*mn if you don't like me saying that but I DO give a d*mn if you keep badgering me over a staunch belief I hold, and a stance I have EVERY PERFECT RIGHT to hold! You will NEVER EVER change my polygenist stance, you can never take that from me, so just forget it if you think you can. Do you suggest that I should abandon Islam because I don't take everything literally word for word from the holy books and that I am utterly convinced that metaphor IS sometimes employed in Islam (as well as pretty well every other religion)? Is that what you'd like me to do? You are saying that because of my 100% inexorable polygenist stance that that is therefore my only choice left now, right?

format_quote Originally Posted by ThisOldMan

I really hope that my thoughts are way off-target and that he is just a young Muslim child who had never been taught any better about Islam. WaLLahu aklam.

Ummm, I wasn't aware that "young children" were able to even WRITE or TYPE language to begin with! You would have to admit that a pre-schooler writing like I do must be reasonably rare?